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#1

2020 Mellora Tumbler

By @CVJOINTsequence

Part One


A super exclusive exercise in Capitalism that widely misses the mark!

It was a quiet evening in the BbD offices and I was bored. Couldn’t be bothered to design more Bogliqs and it was getting very late. Trolling my way through the Automation forum I came across this post by @CVJOINTsequence; nice car, I wonder what the actual design’s like?

After a quick glance over the car I just HAD to tinker. This Mellora product was underwhelming in its stats and wasn’t scoring in any categories at all. There were some glaring errors in engineering judgement as well as some more subtle flaws, but the overall design concept was sound; make a fast, FWD, V8 convertible that was fun to drive, quicker to 100Km/h than base level Znopresk or Ardent mid-size sedans and could barely hang onto the coat-tails of a base level offering from Gryphon Gear…

The Good

The Tumbler packs a small capacity V8, 2.2L to be exact, with a brace of turbo chargers. The gearbox is sequentially operated and the cabin is a VERY nice place to be. Fit and finish is better than any rifle bolt and would satisfy even engineering royalty for the lack of variances. The colour is really nice and suits the cars lines well, flattering this lady’s curves and covering over her (non-existent) flaws. You could travel a continent in this car without feeling it and EVERYONE knows how exclusive A Mellora is, so jealous! Unfortunately they don’t realise that exclusivity comes at a steep cost…

The Bad

The Tumbler is obscenely expensive. It costs the dealer over five and a half million Automation units and that’s cost, so retail is another million on top… We sent spies to the Mellora factory (actually it’s streamed, live, 24/7 on the interwebs, lol) and what we found shocked slash aroused us. Turns out Mellora’s are hand built by Internet thot’s, wearing only short shorts and flimsy white tank tops, with the factory being kept at a nip-slippingly chilled 18 degrees Centigrade! Each part is hand milled by a nuclear powered x-ray laser that discards any parts if they’re a thousandth of a micron out of spec. The interior is made from only free trade, 100% locally sourced plastic, the leather is ethically sourced kitten skin and the wood is WTO certified authentic, sustainably harvested Caribbean driftwood.

Each car is meticulously crafted, hand finished and precision engineered and takes a long time to build. The result is undeniably comfy and prestigious, however, the result is also pure unobtanium. Only the most jaded customer gets so bored with other offerings that they need a Mellora but they do exist, surprisingly, as your teenage children will attest to as they excitedly show you the latest Brittany Swift Youtube video.

The Ugly

Mellora has undercooked the Tumbler. Badly. The engine revs to 5000rpm, makes 156Kw and doesn’t come with a complimentary thot; you have to find your own apparently. The sequential gearbox is only four speeds and the top speed is gear limited to just under 215Km/h. Servicing is a nightmare and parts are very expensive. No mechanic is willing to touch such an expensive and tightly toleranced car and the dealer rubs their hands in glee, unpack their wallet Hoover’s and plan for an early retirement on the annual service anniversary. Mellora will fail, and soon, if they keep doing business this way…

TO BE CONTINUED


#2

2020 Mellora Tumbler (Part Two)

Some Solutions

When you find a problem it isn’t good enough to just point out the flaws; you need to provide possible solutions as well. I admit I had too much fun doing this bit, since I like to solve puzzles, so here are four options to solve Mellora’s short-term viability issues…

Option 1 and 2

I redesigned the Tumbler for fun - Mellora is free to ignore any of my visual changes, or any other changes for that matter, lol!

Option 1 is achieved by simply firing all the thots, dumping the laser and sourcing cheaper materials. I will provide stats separately but this option reduces the cost per car to $40K AU’s and results in a much more attractive car for large volume sale. I’m aware that Mellora wants to be a VIP brand but this would be better achieved with another car; the Tumbler is a 350Zish competitor, NOT a hypercar!

Option 2 is the same as number one but the chassis is changed to a monocoque design, all aluminium is dropped from the body and chassis construction and the multiliinks are swapped out for double wishbones. Cost per unit drops to $35K but poularity drops by 50% (lol).

Option 3 and 4

The Budget version of the Bonhomie has a single exhaust, otherwise the design is identical to the other variants

Option 3 was an attempt to re-imagine the Tumbler with better market statistics than Option 1 but provide a more prestigious car. Part two of the plan didn’t work well but I was able to improve the car’s attractiveness to the target market over Option 1 (and Option 2, lol). Price per car increased to $40.6K AU’s but the car scores better in more categories than Option 1.

Option 4 was an attempt to make a truly budget Tumbler to take on real life cars like the Veloster, 86 and the MX-5. Through a variety of means I reduced the cost per car to $24.5K AU’s and maintained the Tumbler’s attractiveness to the main target segment, Convertible Sports Budget, at 145.8%. Option 4 is probably the weakest car of the bunch, with the cost savings not translating into increased buyer interest.

Statistics

Here are the statistics for each build. The original car will go first, then each option’s stats will follow. Apologies in advance for the mess!

Engine

  • Type: 2.2L Flatplane V8, 2.1L Flatplane V8, 2.1L Flatplane V8, 2.7L Flatplane V8, 1.9L Inline 4 cylinder.
  • Aspiration: Twin Turbo, Twin Turbo, Twin Turbo, NA, Single Turbo.
  • Fuel Type/Delivery: 98RON/Single MPFI, 98RON/Single MPFI, 98RON/Single MPFI, 98RON/Twin MPFI, 98RON/Single MPFI.
  • Power @ RPM: 156Kw @ 5000RPM, 179Kw @ 6900RPM, 179Kw @ 6900RPM, 214Kw @ 8500RPM, 151Kw @ 6200RPM.
  • Torque @ RPM: 298NM @ 5000RPM, 299NM @ 4700RPM, 299NM @ 4700RPM, 277NM @ 6500RPM, 266NM @ 3500RPM.
  • Redline @ RPM: 5000RPM, 7900RPM, 7900RPM, 9200RPM, 7200RPM.

Stat Block

  • Driveability: 57.8, 71.4, 68.6, 73.4, 53.8.
  • Sportiness: 32.9, 47.9, 43.9, 45.9, 34.2.
  • Comfort: 44.8, 31.3, 30.1, 31.8, 26.5.
  • Prestige: 71.8, 48.4, 45.5, 47.4, 32.8.
  • Safety: 52.7, 60.8, 61.6, 61.6, 60.6.
  • Reliability: 83.8, 68.2, 69, 68.7, 73.5.

More Stats

  • Fuel Economy (per 100Km): 8.8L, 9.9L, 10.5L, 10.7L, 7.2L.
  • 0-100Km/h: 9.78s, 6.43s, 6.55s, 5.95s, 7.62s.
  • Quarter Mile: 17.47s, 14.59s, 14.7s, 14.23s, 15.66s.
  • Top Speed (Km/h): 214, 268, 268, 285, 250.
  • 100Km/h - 0: 34.4m, 33.2m, 33.2m, 33.2m, 34.3m.
  • Weight (Kg): 1383.6, 1675.4, 1733.3, 1740.1, 1654.9.

Financial and Market Stats

  • Cost per car (break even, AU’s): 5,510,000, 40,000, 35,200, 40,600, 24,500.
  • Service costs (Annual, AU’s): 14,941.40, 1,331.10, 1309.6, 1,358.20, 973.5.
  • Production Units: 2740, 117, 105, 108, 92.
  • Engineering Time: 1630, 145, 137, 139, 119.
  • Best Market (% competitiveness): Luxury 39.9, C Sport B 190.4, C Sport B 142.1, C Sport B 203.5, C Sport B 145.8.
  • No. 2 Market (% competitiveness): Hyper 31.7, C Sport 136.5, Sport 138.9, Sport B 141.9,Sport B 107.5.
  • No. 3 Market (% competitiveness): GTP 15.8, Sport B 133.4, L Sport 117.7, C Sport 137.9, L Sport B 97.8.

#3

Please note: I was having fun, comments are meant as tongue-in-cheek, so if your car appears in this thread then please understand I mean no disrespect to the creator of the car and, just like Automation, I won’t mention visual design when there’s been an attempt made; I’m terrible at visual design too, lmao!!!

If you have any issues, at all, PM me and I’ll make changes, and redactions, where appropriate.

PM me if you want a car re-designed, write-up or no write-up, and I’ll make it when I can; just let me know what you want achieved and I’ll take a crack at it!

Again, I’m not claiming I’m awesome, rather, I want to point out errors for new players while making it entertaining to read… Stay safe everyone!!!

Regards

HighOctaneLove


#4

Buy a Tumbler and get Archana free (the whole country that is!) :rofl:


#5

In the future, when I establish a bicycle factory, of course, I will take into scoring, among other things, the size of the price.
If this will happen, then I will indicate the name of my factory on this site.
I am going to seriously balance ordinary mountain bikes.
And as for the design, you not simply noticed this car - after all, before I assemble it, I drew a design.


#6

Bogliq Automotive USA needs help!

Hey everyone, I’m in a bind and I was hoping for some help. My Generations II company is attempting to stay within the confines of realism while also allowing me to try out new ideas and ways of playing.

My problem is simple. I have no idea what happened in the 70’s to American cars and American car buyers. I’m well aware of he fuel crisis and how it killed off the Muscle Car era, but what happened to normal buyers and their tastes?

Do V8’s still sell? Did the massive V8’s fall out of favour? What would be considered normal for fuel consumption and performance in this era?

I’ve not had any success finding information about the mainstream markets; sure I can find plenty on niche products, but what do Mom’s and Pop’s drive now?

Any pointers, advice or links would be much appreciated, thanks in advance for any help you can provide!

@VicVictory, @stm316, @Lordred, @patridam and anyone else who can help me!


#7

As for actual experience/knowledge… I’m the target demographic for a true blue falcon (🥺). My dad had has a book with specs on almost EVERY American car ever built (including Essex and its offspring/substitute Terraplane) up until 1984 1980.


#8

what i did is the following:

take the currently-in-production cars
facelift near-all of them in '74 or '75, while fairly heavily optimizing on fuel eco (with varying degrees of success)

finalize Keika incorporation

i basically used current models and made them as economical as possible

result:
they are SLOW, but at least having a slow car beats having no money for fuel

EDIT:
see the DM thread of us


#9

Hmm. Well, since I assume you are talking about the upcoming 1977 round, so I can talk to each segment in particular (explicitly on American cars). All of the vehicles would have a two way catalytic converter and at least have front disc brakes and radial tires as an option. But only luxury cars had rear disc brakes. If you want very specific info you can check the cars I’ve mentioned on https://www.automobile-catalog.com/

Realistic Economy Car: There are two ways to approach this, realistically or as a “wild card.” Realistically would be unibody, front engine, rear wheel drive, with wishbone front and live axle coil or leaf rear. Wheelbase approximately 2.3 to 2.5 meters. Four full seats in plus quality basic or standard, probably with a cheap radio. Most likely a two door coupe, hatchback, or wagon. Power would most likely be from a four cylinder of 1.6 to 2.3 liters, ohv, direct ohc, or sohc two valves per cylinder with a four speed manual or a three speed auto. 1 single barrel or two barrel carbuerator. A larger straight six or V6 could work but would probably bad for stats. Real life examples would the Chevrolet Vega/Monza, Chevrolet Chevette, Ford Pinto/Mercury Bobcat, AMC Gremlin and AMC Pacer.
Wildcard Economy Car: The alternative would be to push boundaries and use cars that came to the US in 1978, the Ford Fiesta and Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon. This would be mostly similar in many ways with the notable difference being transverse FWD with McPherson struts and a torsion beam rear suspension. The Omni size would perhaps support a rear bench seat.
Fuel consumption with an automatic should be in the high teens, with a smaller engine manual car getting in the mid to high twenties. 0-60 would be anywhere from 12 to 20 seconds with gas engines.

Intermediate: This is a little more consistent: front engine, rear wheel drive, with double wishbone front suspension and live rear axle with coil or leaf springs. Could be unibody or body on frame. Most would be 3 speed automatics. Anything could work: wagons, coupes, sedans… except convertibles. While a family sedan or wagon might score better, luxurious coupes with long roofs, short trunks, and vinyl tops were very popular. There were also still some sporty looking packages with stickers but were mostly for show. Coupes might have 4 seats but bucket front/rear bench would be the norm. Wheelbase would be 2.7 to 2.9 meters. “Big block” engines were being dropped from the lineups, so the top engines would most likely be 5.7 to 6 liters. The small engines would be 3.8 to 4.2 liter I6s or V6s, and the medium engines would be 4 to 5 liter V8s. One two or four barrel carburetor. Mileage would be expected in the middle teens at best. 0-60 would be between 16 and 12 seconds. Look at the Chevrolet Malibu, Chevrolet Monte Carlo, Pontiac Lemans, Pontiac Grand Prix, Oldsmobile Cutlass, Ford LTD II, Ford Thunderbird, Mercury Cougar, Plymouth Fury, Dodge Monaco, Dodge Diplomat, Chrysler Cordoba, and Chrysler LeBaron.

Utility Full Size: This is a very broad category. Full size trucks had base platforms dating back to 1970 or earlier, body on frame, front wishbone rear leaf spring, RWD/4X4, usually V8s or large sixes, 3 speed auto or manual - regular cab long bed trucks were the norm, with extended cabs starting to appear. “Big Block” V8s of 7 liters or more were not yet removed from trucks and vans. See the Ford F150, Chevrolet C/K, and Dodge Ram. Two door SUVs were built off these platforms. Full size vans were engineered very similarly but with front bucket seats. 0-60 could be all over the place, but likely not under 10 seconds or over 20. Mileage could be as bad as single digits. See the Chevrolet Van, Ford Econoline, and Dodge Ram Van.
Utility Smaller: Coupe utilities were not popular but still existed, in the form of the Ford Ranchero and Chevrolet El Camino. These would be trims on your intermediate car with the same engineering, and might do in the middle or higher teens for mpg and get to 60 in 13-16 seconds. There were also some captive imports with American names on small Japanese trucks, with four cylinder engines and a tight size. These were no faster than the other utilities but could get mileage north of 20mpg. See the Chevrolet LUV and Ford Courier.


#10

with that insight, i can safely say that my cars are DEAD SLOW


#11

Well, 0-60 catalog entries are usually somewhat optimistic. Over 20 seconds to sixty is the bottom of the barrel though, the worst malaise mobile I can think of, the 1976 4300 lb Buick LeSabre full size with a 110hp V6 took 22 seconds (https://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/qotd/qotd-did-the-1976-buick-lesabre-v6-have-the-worst-power-to-weight-ratio-of-any-malaise-era-american-car/

If you include diesels though it gets much worse.


#12

the slowest Anhultz’s (USDM only for now) at the time went to 60 in just over 20 seconds

european models generally were either faster or more economical due to not needing the catalytic converter

is most cases, they were both


#13

You’re an Aussie??? Wow, I always thought you were American… Sorry if I disturbed your day, lol!

Thanks Patridam for all this info, this has clarified a great number of my model range anxieties and will be very useful in building my 1974 facelifts and where to go from there… :heart_eyes::sunglasses::grin:

I gotta get a wriggle on! Lots of cars to design and hardly any time to do it!!!

I’m still open for more insights so if anyone has anymore tips, suggestions etc. feel free to share. :smile:


#14

One difference between vans and pickups was that at least some of the vans were not truly Body on frame. I think that the econoline might have been, not 100% sure, but the Chevy and (I think) the Dodge were not. Since they have quite massive chassis rails, but welded to the floor, I would probably go LT monocoque to simulate Them.


#16

You have transformed the Tumbler from an overpriced mess into a much more competitive and realistic offering - except for those tiny turbo V8s in the first three options. That said, the first option for a redesign is the most attractive of the four in my view. All in all, well done!


#17

Bogliq USA wants feedback!

Yes... Even negative fedback, hahaha!!!

I’m looking to emulate the increasing role of customer feedback in developing product strategies, trim specifications and the like. I think it’d be fun to get forum users to chip in with their 2c on the cars trim levels, how they drive in Beam.NG, thoughts on the design language etc.

If you’d like to roleplay as a Bogliq owner in the late 70’s, and onwards, then please PM me for the .car file or, if you just want to go on what I’ve written in my Generations II lore thread, just post your thoughts on this thread instead.

Thanks for reading this post; I look forward to receiving your feedback!


#18

Seems a good idea, I can’t really join in since I am in the generations challenge as well but good luck either way.


#19

MVD made a Bogliq look really, REALLY good!!!

Buccanneer Post


Marcus-gt500 transformed a pig’s ear into a purse of the finest silk!!!


The surprising part? He didn’t just delete all my fixtures and start again, hahaha!!!