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CSR77 - Ready, Set, Tow [ENDED; RESULTS PUBLISHED]


#103

CSR77 Preliminaries

Tonsom checks his E-Mail inbox and finds loads of digital brochures there.
After calling the others to meet up at his house, they start scrolling through the advertisements.
Tonsom: “Well here we go then… at least there is some choice…”


Tonsom: “First up, a Shromet Parvus RC…”
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Redwood: “Doesn´t look too bad, five seats, leather, and it can tow.”
Connor: “Tim is right, this vehicle is a good starting point for the moment.”
Tonsom: “Gonna keep it then.”
Tonsom shoves it onto his phone


Tonsom: Moving on… a… Vikstrom C9… haven´t heard of them…"
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Connor: “It is safer and more reliable, but does not show the degree of comfort of the Parvus.”
Redwood: “Reliability sounds good, not gonna have to fiddle around as much…”
Tonsom: "Still has leather seating… cannot bee too bad, gonna have a look at it.
Another ad put onto the phone


Tonsom: “LLA B770MW… not intending to buy Windows here…”
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Redwood: “Is it a wagon trying to be a SUV? Does not look very driveable.”
Connor: “Correct. And reliability is also on the lower side.”
Tonsom: “Apart from being on stilits it looked alright though…”
Tonsom deletes the Mail with the LLA ad in it


Tonsom: “Next MUD Teton 4x2 Premium.”
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Tonsom: “Well it isn´t pretty, but it says it will tow two tons and carry 1800kg in the bed.”
Reedwood: “Proper truck then, at least spec-wise… keeper?”
Tonsom: “Keeper.”
Another ad for the phone


Tonsom: “CSM Gemny TT… it is… cute?”
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Redwood: “aaawww! i love it! And it surely can be driven easily.”
Tonsom: “That thing won´t tow stuff…”
Connor: “Stated towing is above what we need.”
Tonsom: “SHUT UP! That thing won´t tow, trust me…”
Deleted ad


Tonsom: “Back to trucks. Beacon Cannonade TQ.”
grafik
Redwood: “Sealed beams in 2017? Dunno much about cars, but those are 70s stuff…”
Tonsom: “Not very good-looking; somehow still a five-speed; barely passed safety tests… Nope… not gonna take that…”


Tonsom: “Epoch M40 Atlas. At least some brand i know…”
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Redwood: “Looks good enough, i think.”
Connor: “Below average in most major ways, only the low price is a significant advantage.”
Tonsom: [mumbles] “Hopes are you aren´t lying…”
Deletes the Epoch ad


Tonsom: “Look at that! Deer and Hunt Fallow.”
grafik
Redwood: “THAT is what a truck should look like, but… who is gonna park this brick?”
Connor: “At 5.72metres in length, it just about counts as a car i germany.”
Tonsom: “Well… it looks great, but… i ain´t parking that…”
another ad dragged into the recycling bin


Tonsom: “Baniki Yosemite, gosh so many unknown brands…”
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Tonsom: “Less tank than the DaH, but still decent styling…
And it supposedly tows 2.3tons.”
Connor: “Do not expect an easy to drive and comfortable car when it tows 2300kg.”
Tonsom: “Fuck… he´s right…”
hesitates, then deletes the ad


Tonsom: “FM Outback… Boy those are patriotic…”
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Redwood: “Another haulin’ beast… PLUS it actually had good fuel eco and should be easy-ish to drive…”
Tonsom: “Remember that comfort thing earlier? But the rest seems really promising… it has to get the chance to shine, i guess.”
transfers ad to phone


Tonsom: “Farox Cielo X 2.3T AWD TowMax. Names these days…”
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Redwood: “I like the looks.”
Connor: “Will likely be one of the easier ones to drive with decent comfort as well.”
Tonsom: “Then explain the basic infotaiment and leather seats…
plus just about enough rated towing. Sorry, but some sense of matched interior has to be.”
Deletes ad


Tonsom: “H4 Flux Cargo. Shape reminds me of some Citroens out of a game…”
grafik
Tonsom: “And it is another one of those stilt-cars…”
Redwood: “2400kg towed, 1400kg carried… goodbye comfort…”
Advert deleted


Tonsom: “Hawker Nemesis. Truck again…”
grafik
Redwood: “A big truck again… at least it should stand some battering…”
Connor: “Good driveability and reliability, especially safety, but rather low comfort and fuel economy.”
Tonsom: “At leas i won´t die in it when he manages to somehow crash it…”
Ad transferred to phone


Tonsom: “The… what?”
Connor: “Ninomiya Tachibana TC20.”
grafik
Connor: “Average in any meaningful way.”
Redwood: “Not real pretty if you ask me…”
Tonsom: “Yepp.”
proceeds to delete the ad


Tonsom: “The Albatross G360, a car i can pronounce…”
grafik
Redwood: [gets nervous] “You think i can drive that?”
Tonsom: “You are not gonna drive this behemoth in Germany.”
advert deleted


Tonsom: “RCM Prairie EXE. Thankfully we get back to something known again…”
grafik
Connor: “Expected to not be the most driveable or comfortable car, both by far.”
Redwood: “Like how it looks tho…”
Tonsom: “You wanna drive or cuddle it?”
Redwood: [:angry:]
advert has been moved to recycle bin


Tonsom: “The Americar BigV8… here we go with a truck again…”
[opens picture]
grafik
Redwood: “What is that? A hot hatch with a 8.9L V8.”
Connor: “Correct. Only strengths are reliability and the fact it tows 1.8 tons.”
Tonsom: “At least the name fits. Still not gonna have it…”
advert promtly deleted


Tonsom: “The Hawkeye Venture. Unknown… as almost all of those…”
grafik
Redwood: “Won´t have problems towing, taht is for sure.”
Tonsom: “Won´t excel anywhere else as well…”
Connor: “Correct.”
advert deleted


Tonsom: “The Aeros Router.”
grafik
Redwood: “Looks easy to maneuvre and sips fuel…”
Tonsom: “Cloth seating plus likely stiff ride. Not gonna take that.”
advert deleted


Tonsom: “Well… the JHW X-Trek. Not on thebright side styling-wise, to be honest…”
grafik
Tonsom: “Just about enough to tow…”
Connor: “Please do not expect anything exceptional except fuel economy and reliability.”
Tonsom: “Reliability is good, but comfort is not very promising, really…”
delted advert


Tonsom: “Last one in the list. The WorkMateAir”
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Redwood: “May not be the best looking, but the specsheet looks promising.”
Connor: “Expected to be easy to drive, reasonably comfortable and reliable and our intended cargo should pose little problems.”
Tonsom: “Here we go. Last one is gonna be dealer-visited.”
ad transferred to phone


Tonsom shuts his computer down and starts trying to figure out a route for the six dealership visits. The other two went home right after the last ad has been looked at.


The CSR77 finalists are:
Shromet Parvus; DoctorNarfy
Vikstrom C9 2.5 AWD; Conan
MUD Teton; abg7
FM Outback; Jaimz
Hawker Nemesis; USDMFTW
WorkMateAir; SheepInACart


#105

Cool…not instabinned so we’re satisfied…at the moment!

:smiley:


#106

Good job to these who made it to the finals. At least my car lived its life as an average car…


#107

God darn it, Tonsom! First the Nash S-F, now the Gemny… The army folk seems to have held a grudge over the whole “Army Wheel Drive” thing CSM did. Can’t please these guys, I swear!

So, and correct me if I’m wrong, the Gemny was binned because while it can tow, it doesn’t tow as well as other cars? Just to clarify things a bit.


#108

1st:
yes. the towing capabilities of your car were just about enough to get the weight required going

2nd:
to be honest, there was some subjectivity to it as well…
while not durectly mentioned in the rules, you won´t see a Suzuki Jimny sized car tow another commuter sedan sized similary to an E-Class Merc


#109

The first point I can agree with, the second one… The car was an SUV body, and it could probably tow better with a more powerful engine. It did have a V6 after all, which is a far cry from the normal Jimny engine.

But I accept the reasoning, the car was stretching it as-is towing-wise. The size thing could’ve been made a bit less subtler in this case…


#110

next to the Americar, yours was the smallest entry by dimensions, by quite some margin, actually
Granted you have an engine bigger than a Jimny, but your car is not significantly larger than a Jimny. It still is counted as a SUV, but it is stiill the smallest SUV entry


#111

And therefore its smaller size harms how it can tow large loads, correct? Lesson learned, if the load is car-sized the vehicle needs to be larger.


#112

For Automation, the main value of interest is vehicle weight in which a heavier vehicle can tow a heavier weight, but realistically you likely would not tow an E-Class sized car with an (almost) Kei-SUV


#113

I’m confused as to why my car was deleted?


#114

1st:
just about made it past the towing limit. same goes for load capacity/ volume
most other entries had quite some buffer in there

2nd:
the Combo of Premium to Basic in the interior does not seem very reasonable to me


#115

I was really hoping the answer to that would be yes…


#116

my car wasn’t listed…


#117

Using a premium inforainment would’ve costed too much, and using a standard or basic interior would harm literally every aspect of the car. And basic infotainment is still fair enough, you still get a touchscreen. Your utility claims were fair enough, I guess


#118

really?
sorry about that
gonna edit the review post shortly

EDIT:
Added John’s entry as the second-last they have looked at.


#119

My big very basic work truck made it, nice!.


#120

CSR 77 Finals

Connor, Tim and Frank decided to meet up at the first dealer a few days later.
They enter the Shromet dealership for their first test drive.
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Tonsom: “Loos better than on the photo, and comfort really was their focus with this one.”
Redwood: [half-asleep] *“pluushyy… sooo pluushyy…”
Connor: “After questioning the salesman, i can say that fuel economy and running costs are acting in your favour as well.”
Tonsom: “Seems to bve a great start then.”


half an hour of public transport later


The Vikstrom dealership…
grafik
Redwood: “Similarly easy driving compared to the Shromet.”
Tonsom: “But less comfortable, more expnsive to run and that trunk is waay more cramped than it looked on the ad…”
Redwood: “At least it will tow what we need to. And it has a better crash test rating than the Shromet.”
Tonsom: “True… next dealer then…”


4 minute walk down the road


Tonsom: “Well… you cannot miss a MUD themed MUD dealership, can you?”
Connor: “Apparently not.”
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Redwood: “I don`t want it…”
Connor: “Why is that?”
Redwood: “You don´t know anything… Difficult to drive, harshest ride yet…”
Connor: “Got it. And i do know that is far below the others in most other ways as well.”
Tonsom: “Definitly was more promising on the ad…”


*another few minutes walking down the road


[Redwood bad mood goes away as he sees the FM]
Redwood: “THAT is proper brand patriotism!”
Tonsom: “A bit overdone in my opinion, but i guess you`re right…”
[they get the FM Outback for a test drive; Redwood not happy again, lookin over to Tonsom]
“Chance to shine… i think actual comfort is done differently…”
Connor: “It may no…”
Tonsom: “YOU SHUT UP! You don´t know how comfort even works! But it really wasn´t all that comfy… But at last it is the cheapest on our list.”
Redwood: “its something…”


back to public transport, this time for over an hour


Tonsom: [looking at phone] “Second to last dealer… hope it gets better from now on…”
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one test drive later
Tonsom: “One thing is for sure… we got past the real lookers already… but… it is okay… -ish…”
Redwood: “At least it was something driveable again compared to the previous two… but comfort also suffered for that bonkers three ton load capacity…”
Tonsom: “We might be able to fit our car ON the truck rather than behind it.”
Connor: “It really excels in our utility requirements while retaining decent driveability and reliabiility. Lower end values are fuel economy and the crash test rating.”
Tonsom: “Still on the better side of the field.”


another half-hour of public transport


Tonsom: “Last dealer… WorkMateAir.”
grafik
Redwood: “Not great looking, but gets the job done…”
test drive
[Redwood and Tonsom are pleased]
Tondom: "Like it. Easy to drive despite it being a truck and surprisingly comfortable as well.
Redwood: “And look at this [points at truck bed] It has enough space for everything we might carry over to sweden. And it´ll tow our car we don´t have yet.”
Connor: “Fuel economy and reliability are average, service will be the most expensive of the investigated vehicles.”

Tonsom: “I don´t care about expensive service… I can afford it”


[Tonsom walks over to the salesman and puts a bunch of money onto the desk; then he fills out some degree of paperwork; retrieves the keys and walks over to the newly purchased car]

Tonsom: “We´re leaving. [short pause] GET A MOVE ON CONNOR!”

[they drive the WorkMateAir out of the dealer lot]


OOC:

Congratulations to SheepInACart for winning CSR77!

here is the final results:
1st: WorkMateAir ; @SheepInACart
2nd: Hawker Nemesis ; @USDMFTW
3rd: Shromet Parvus ; @DoctorNarfy
4th: Vikstrom C9 ; @conan
5th: MUD Teton ; @abg7
6th: FM Outback ; @jaimz

here is a result spreadsheet


#122

Gz to Sheep.

Maybe I could have improved a little but not enough to challenge the rest of the finalists.

And a big thanks to @Elizipeazie for running the round.


#123

Well done sheep - you have clinched a convincing maiden win with a truck that could really do it all for a reasonable price!

And many thanks for hosting a round that turned out to be more compelling than I thought it would be initially. I’m really hoping that the next round, regardless of whoever hosts it, doesn’t have a utility theme, as did this one or the one before it.


#124

Why would you think that…
(shifty looking eyes from the guy who entered a utility car even into the WAM touring car world series…)

Also a big thanks to Elizpeazie for hosting this round… its hard to be unbiased given my results, but hats off for sticking with it through the normal rules objections\saltyness and running a smooth tight ship. I hope I can do as well, but we’ll start to see from tomorrow…