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##Why We Do Things The Way We Do? An Exclusive Interview to the CEO America’s strangest megacorporation

We’ve managed to get score an interview with an anonymous board member of Dimension Motors, one of America’s most prominent and large auto companies known for strange business decisions and having the government bail them out 8 years ago in the 2008 crisis. Also notorious for being by far the most reserved and secretive large companies, with very very few press releases on incoming tech or models except when ready to launch.

We’ve boiled down the interview into the following questions.

  1. Why no V8s? It seems strange for an American company to not make them.
    A: We did for a long time though. Only recently with the discontinuation of the Paradox 6 did we stop. The simple answer is, we were adamant to stay OHV as long as possible and the rising emissions and regulations aren’t kind to it. When we couldn’t use the OHV anymore, we thought that it was pointless, the whole point of a V8 was to build a performance car, and the whole point of a performance car is to stand out. You see the market these days and everybody and their mother has a DOHC V8 in everything. Hell even Erin used it on their eco cars. Also it would require a through re-engineering of the engine, that we thought might as well go for a V12 to make headlines.

  2. Why so many sports cars?
    A: We can build them cheaply thanks to our emphasis on handling and strength when designing new platforms thus sports cars can be built on sedan platforms and still maintain excellent handling. Only the A (Nine-50/Hypero) and Z chassis (Nova/Entropy/Boson) are bespoke. Also the cars tend to end up sharing alot of components with each other driving development costs down further. So in the end we get a solid reputation boost for little in the way of cost.

  3. What would you say to be Dimension’s design philosophy when building new models?
    A: Hmm difficult to say since different models have different goals in mind. But we do enforce a large focus on finding the right balance and setting over using expensive parts. To us, you save alot of money making a regular part work to it’s maximum potential and prime setting over ordering bespoke components that offer minimal differences for alot more money. This of course does not apply to our more high end models such as our supercars no. But even those… while we maintain a very strict policy of only using high quality parts… we still will cut out purchases that we deem unnecessary. In the end our supercars became some of the fastest cars to have ever been built around a track, while still maintaing road usability and remains cheaper than it’s competitors.

  4. What are Dimension’s plans for the near future?
    A: As you can see with our 2016 line up, Dimension aims to improve it’s market reputation to firmly place it as a premium brand in the general public’s eyes. Reputation is everything. Some companies think they can thrive off making cheap cars exclusively. They’d be wrong. What if the more premium brands start to want some of that market share? What if they made a budget model that competes directly with yours while having significantly higher brand prestige? Public doesn’t care if it costs more, breaks down easy, isn’t that good to drive, all those are countered by the fact that you’re driving that brand and they’re not. This was a problem when the Boson first came out, we were having serious trouble selling even for a supercar not helped when KHT decided to release their Sepang.

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Very well written interview, and I really like the idea of including some comments on the world of Automation too. Thanks for mentioning me too :wink:

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Good to hear more about your company. I’m surprised you don’t offer any V8s for some reason I just assumed you did. So it looks like you’re in the boat as Saminda and Maesima as brands without them.


##Dimension Secret Vault Tour

As you all know car companies often have a gargantuan storage facility filled with historic models and concepts and obscure prototypes that remain a secret to most. So with a bit of help from a security guard and a helpful inside engineer I’ve managed to gain access into Dimension’s very own vault of broken dreams and what could’ve beens.

And what a sight too. Ghastly messily assembled prototypes left to ruin everywhere, several historic cars, a few competitor cars that weren’t taken apart for research you know the usual stuff. But on the very end of the warehouse, there was a curiously clean silver tarp covering an unknown vehicle with ready access to the exit, a strange speck of cleanliness in the dust and rust emporium.

What a sight it truly was.


Entropy FM Prototype 12


The engineer explains it as: " An Entropy FM spare chassis we decided to turn into a performance test bed. With a modified DCT transmission ripped off a Gryphon Gear Ouroborous and a bunch of weight savings being it’s only major changes. We decided not to release it because the cost of developing the DCT would be too much"

The specs that matter:
0-60: 2.3
1/4 mile: 8.7 @ 174 mph
Top Speed: 230 mph
Power: 1145 HP @ 7200 RPM
Torque: 1400 NM @ 5100 RPM
Weight: 1233 kg
Power to weight: 930 hp per tonne
Transmission: 7 Speed DCT
Nurburgring Nordeschleife time: 6:29.86
Airfield: 1:03.95
Automation TT: 1:47.78
MRLS: 1:23.41
Tsukuba: 52.69

###THIS CAR IS NOT STREET LEGAL SO TAKE IT’S TIMES WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. IT IS BUILT TO SHOWCASE HOW MUCH DCT MAKES A DIFFERENCE AND HOW FAST THE CAR CAN GO WITHOUT ADDITIONAL MODIFICATIONS TO THE MOTOR.

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##2016 Dimension Axino 2.6T AWD Premium (UCY54)

Dimension’s latest addition to the 2016 line up includes the second generation Axino SUV, now having grown in size to a full size codenamed UCY54. Like the first gen, the car shared bits with the Hadron sedan of the time and thus this particular trim level uses the 2.6 liter inline 6 turbo of the 2016 Hadron. Your typical full size suburban cruiser with a surprising amount of offroad capability and punch.


##Technical Data

Engine

Code: JF25DTI
Configuration: 2.5 liter Inline 6 aluminum alloy
Heads: Aluminum alloy DOHC 24V with VVT and VVL
Aspiration: Turbo with air to air intercooler
Fueling: Bosch Direct Injection with single injector
Recommended fuel: 95 octane
Redline: 7700 RPM
Power: 306 hp @ 7700 RPM
Torque: 309 NM @ 5400 RPM
Transmission: 7 Speed torque converter Automatic (7 speed sequential manual optional) AWD with manual locker
Engine weight: 171.6 kg
Compression: 10:4

Chassis

Code: UCY54
Body: Aluminum monocoque with aluminum body panels
Suspension: F Double Wishbone R Multilink with progressive springs, gas dampers and off road sway bars
Tires: F 235mm R20 R 235mm R20 Toyo Extensa AS All Season Touring tires
Brakes: F 3 piston disc 350mm R 1 piston disc 310mm with ABS
Curb Weight: 1787 kg
Safety: Multipoint airbags and safety bracing with parking cameras
Steering: Electronically assisted
Driver Aids: TCS and ECS

Interior

Seats: Imitation leather heated seats with steel trimming and electric adjustment
Dash: Imitation leather backed dash with steel trim
Radio: Clarion Sat Nav and 16 speaker sound system with amplifier and crossover
Seating: 5

Performance Figures

Power to weight: 172 hp per tonne
Top Speed: 130+ mph
0-60: 6.5


##2018 Dimension Axino 7.0 SSP

Completing Dimension’s 2018 target of 4 V12 powered uber premium machines, the Axino 7.0 SSP is an American attempt at making the quintessential European Super SUV to sell to Sheiks and newly rich Chinese Housewives. Because no premium brand is truly premium before making an overpowered SUV that is several times more polluting than the Exxon Valdez.


##Technical Data

Engine
Code: RN70DI
Configuration: 7 liter 120 degree V12 Aluminum alloy
Heads: Aluminum alloy 4 valve DOHC with VVT and VVL
Power: 702 hp @ 7700 RPM
Torque: 698 NM @ 5500 RPM
Transmission: 7 speed sequential manual with AWD and torsen diff
Engine weight: 294 kg
Compression: 11:6

Chassis

Code: UCY84
Body: Aluminum monocoque with aluminum body panels
Suspension: F Double Wishbone R Multilink with active suspension and semi active dampers
Tires: F 295mm R21 R 295mm R21 Toyo Proxes 4 all season performance tires
Brakes: F 3 piston 375mm vented disc R 1 piston 285mm vented disc with ABS
Curb Weight: 2160 kg
Safety: Multipoint airbags and safety bracing
Steering: Electronically Assisted
Driver Aids: TCS and ECS and Launch Control

Interior

Seats: Front Recaro Genuine electric reclining buckets with steel trim with heater function, Rear leather seats with massage function
Dash: Genuine leather and aluminum trim
Radio: Clarion Sat Nav with 16 speaker set up with amplifier and crossover
Seating: 5

Performance Figures

Power to weight: 325 hp per tonne
Top Speed: 170 mph+
0-60: 3.4
1/4 mile: 11.58 @ 122 mph
2550m cornering test: 1.18 G @ 120.2 mph
60-0: 103 ft
Nordeschleife: 7:57.23
Airfield: 1:17.33
Automation TT: 2:08.66
Laguna Seca: 1:42.31

MSRP:

2.6: $40,500

7.0: $102,400

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The two trims for the Akino are like Jekyll and Hyde: one is a mild, turbo six-cylinder crossover and the other is an insane V12 SUV unlike any other.

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All this hot hatch speed record business

No stripped interior, 6MT, Sports tyes +6, 30% mark up $36K.

Now stop bothering @Starfish94 jeez.

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AWD! Cheating! :stuck_out_tongue: And how much power does it have?

K locked diff so I have the disadvantage of having all the AWD gear but only RWD.

Oh lookie I’m even quicker. No this won’t be in the reviewing.

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Still, how much power? Because with half the power more, it isn’t that hard to beat C2000R.

With 300 kg less, it isn’t hard to beat me.

560 HP. Detuned race engine.


2003 Dimension Doppler 2.0 MPV (GCT22)


A well equipped compact 5 door wagon for those with enough sense to not buy crossovers. Built off the Gen III Rift platform. AWD optional.


##Technical Data

Powertrain

Code: LE20EI
Configuration: 2 liter Inline 4 Aluminum
Heads: Aluminum 16 valve Twin Cam with VVT and VVL
Aspiration: Natural
Fueling: Bosch MPFI with single injector
Recommended fuel: 91 Octane
Redline: 6500 RPM
Power: 140 hp @ 6500 RPM
Torque: 170 NM @ 4800 RPM
Transmission: 5 Speed Torque Converter Automatic (5 Speed Manual standard)
Engine Weight: 132 kg

Chassis

Code: GCT22
Body: Advanced Steel monocoque with aluminum body panels
Suspension: F Double Wishbone R Multilink with progressive springs and gas dampers
Tires: F 215mm R17 R 215mm R17 Toyo Extensa A/S Touring Tires
Brakes: F 3 piston disc 325 mm R 1 piston disc 235mm with ABS
Curb Weight: 1215 kg
Safety: Driver and passenger airbag with parking sensor and side impact bracing
Steering: Electronic Power Steering
Driver Aids: TCS and ECS

Interior

Seats: Imitation Leather manually adjustable seats with heater function
Dash: Soft plastic dash and metallic paint plastic trim.
Radio: Clarion Head Unit with 8 speaker sound system and 2nd row DVD player
Seating: 4


##2004 Dimension Doppler SSP Turbo AWD

A proper sports wagon with all the good bits from the Rift SSP, such as the 330 hp motor and a strengthen AWD transmission, the Doppler SSP makes the grocery and kids run alot more fun and allows you to forget for a moment that you’re no longer young and trendy or relevant.

Powertrain

Code: LE20ETI
Configuration: 2 liter Inline 4 Aluminum
Heads: Aluminum 16 valve Twin Cam with VVT and VVL
Aspiration: Single turbo with air to air intercooler
Fueling: Bosch MPFI with single injector
Recommended fuel: 95 Octane
Redline: 8500 RPM
Power: 324 hp @ 7700 RPM
Torque: 315 NM @ 6800 RPM
Transmission: 5 Speed Manual standard with viscous diff
Engine Weight: 148 kg

Chassis

Code: GCT24
Body: Advanced Steel monocoque with aluminum body panels
Suspension: F Double Wishbone R Multilink with progressive springs and gas dampers
Tires: F 255mm R17 R 255mm R17 Toyo Proxes 4 Sports Tires
Brakes: F 3 piston vented disc 300 mm R 1 piston vented disc 235mm with ABS
Curb Weight: 1401 kg
Safety: Driver and passenger airbag with parking sensor and side impact bracing
Steering: Electronic Power Steering
Driver Aids: TCS and ECS

Interior

Seats: Imitation Leather manually adjustable seats with heater function, Recaro sports seats front
Dash: Soft plastic dash and metallic paint plastic trim.
Radio: Clarion Head Unit with 8 speaker sound system and 2nd row DVD player
Seating: 4

Performance Figures

Power to weight: 231 hp per tonne
Top Speed: 150 mph +
0-60: 5
1/4 mile: 13.50 @ 106 mph
250m cornering test: 1.19 G @ 121 mph
60-0: 94 ft
Laguna Seca: 1:47.60
Airfield: 1:22.35
Automation TT: 2:16.16


##Pricing

Production Run:
Non-SSP: 2003-2010
SSP: 2004-2008

MSRP:
2.0 MPV: $17,500
SSP: $26,000

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To me , Dimension is more like a Japan automaker instead of U.S

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Yeah, I agree, American ones would never take the risk of making SSP versions, and would also have been hit by several recalls and hacking scams

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I only make a lot of SSP versions because they’re my favorite things to build. Turning something so basic into an actually desirable performance machine. Isn’t that where most legendary automotive names are made? M, AMG, STi, Evolution, GT-R, SRT, SS…

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Really like what you’ve managed to do with that body. Also:

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##1965 Dimension Comanche 6 Cyl

Ah yes the 1960s, the era of the Boomers, full of beautiful pony and muscle cars any high schooler not drafted to fight unjust wars can afford. The ideal american dream, work hard, buy a good looking pony car and drive wasted with your high school sweetheart to the sunset before the gloomy, depressing, sad 70s kick in, you’re a massive alcoholic, your wife left you and took the kid and you lost your job. The Dimension Comanche is the embodiment of that era, a car that looked fast and sporty but could be outrun by a station wagon on the highway.


Technical Data

Engine

Engine: Dimension 6 cyl 3.2 liter cast iron Inline 6
Heads: Cast Iron pushrod
Fueling: Weber Single Barrel Triple Carb
Power: 170 HP @ 5400 RPM
Torque: 244 Nm @ 3800 RPM
Redline: 6000 RPM
Recommended fuel: Regular Leaded
Engine Weight: 227 kg
Transmission: 4 speed manual

Chassis

Body: Steel unibody with steel panels
Suspension: F Macpherson Strut R Semi Trailing Arm
Tires: F 185mm R 185mm R13 touring tires
Brakes: F 2 Piston Disc 250mm R 1 Piston Disc 250mm
Curb Weight: 1200 kg
Safety: 3 Point Seatbelts and structural bracing
Steering: Hydraulic

Interior

Seats: Cloth Bench seats Front and Rear
Dash: Wood and steel trim with Euro style Tachometer and Speedometer
Radio: FM Radio with door speakers


##1966 Dimension Comanche Sport290

The 6 cylinder Comanche was good and all but some people would rather their car to go as fast as it looked. So the 290 was released the following year, this time with proper cajones, a 290 cubic inch small block V8.


Technical Data


Engine

Engine: Dimension Small Block 290 Cu Crossplane V8 Cast Iron
Heads: Cast Iron Hydraulic roller Pushrod
Fueling: Weber 2 Barrel Triple Carb
Recommended fuel: 92 Octane Standard
Redline: 5500 RPM
Power: 287 hp @ 5000 RPM
Torque: 428 Nm @ 4300 RPM
Transmission: 4 Speed Manual with automatic locker
Engine weight: 250 KG

Chassis

Body: Steel unibody with steel panels
Suspension: F Macpherson Strut R Semi Trailing Arm
Tires: F 205mm R 205mm R13 touring tires
Brakes: F 2 Piston Disc 250mm R 1 Piston Disc 225mm
Curb Weight: 1270 kg
Safety: 3 Point Seatbelts and structural bracing
Steering: Hydraulic

Interior

Seats: Cloth Bench seats Front with rear carpeted parcel shelf
Dash: Wood and steel trim with Euro style Tachometer and Speedometer
Radio: FM Radio with door speakers

Performance Figures

0-60: 6.1
1/4 mile: 14.25 @ 106 mph
Top Speed: 146 mph
Laguna Seca: 1:55


##1970 Dimension Comanche 410 Special

With the 410 Big Block motor from the Paradox sports car, extensive use of our recently built wind tunnel for aerodynamics testing, the 410 Comanche is Trans Am ready from the showroom floor. Fetches way too much money in auctions where the poor cars are made garage queens for owners looking to make a quick buck.


##Technical Data

Engine

Engine: Dimension Big Block 410 Cu Flatplane V8 Aluminum
Heads: Aluminum Solid Lifter Pushrod
Fueling: Weber 4 Barrel Twin Carb
Recommended Fuel: 98 Premium
Redline: 6000 RPM
Power: 398 HP @ 5000 RPM
Torque: 590 NM @ 4300 RPM
Transmission: 4 Speed Manual with Automatic Locker
Engine Weight: 236 Kg

Chassis

Body: Steel unibody with steel panels
Suspension: F Macpherson Strut R Semi Trailing Arm
Tires: F 225mm R 225mm R15 touring tires
Brakes: F 2 Piston Disc 300mm R 1 Piston Disc 300mm
Curb Weight: 1270 kg
Safety: 3 Point Seatbelts and structural bracing
Steering: Hydraulic

Interior

Seats: Cloth Bench seats Front with rear carpeted parcel shelf
Dash: Wood and steel trim with Euro style Tachometer and Speedometer
Radio: FM Radio with single speaker

Performance Figures

0-60: 5.0
1/4 mile: 13.05 @ 115 mph
Top Speed: 155 mph
Laguna Seca: 1:48.86

Pricing:
6 Cyl: $1611 before options ($12,350 +20% mark up)
290: $ 2076 ($ 15,470 +30% mark up)
410: $ 3700 ($ 23,000 + 50% mark up)

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I really like the clean look of the six. Those extra vents on the V8 models are just a bit much for me, but I assume they are needed? No matter, I’ll just swap a V8 into the base model. It’ll be fiiiinneee, trust me.


##1985 Dimension Paradox 3 5.4 (CGA52)

The 1980s will forever be remembered as the decade where everyone unironically thought pastel suits and handlebar mustaches were cool, but also as the time when cars got their cajones back after being castrated in the horrible 70s. The Paradox 3 is the embodiment of that spirit, an attempt to regain the speed of it’s 60’s counterpart while being several times tackier with wireframe digital gauges and headlamps that do a little dance when opening.


##Technical Data

Engine

Code: GN54EI
Configuration: 5.4 liter 90 degree flatplane V8 aluminum block
Heads: Aluminum Overhead Valve
Aspiration: Natural
Fueling: Bosch MPFI with single injector
Recommended fuel: 91 Octane
Redline: 6200 RPM
Power: 308 HP @ 5400 RPM
Torque: 465 NM @ 3900 RPM
Transmission: 5 speed manual with viscous diff (4 speed auto optional)
Engine Weight: 200 kg

Chassis

Code: CGA52
Body: Steel monocoque with aluminum body panels
Tires: F 245mm R 245mm R17 Touring Tires
Suspension: F Double Wishbone R Double Wishbone with gas dampers
Brakes: F Vented 2 piston discs 325mm R Solid 1 piston discs 280mm with ABS
Curb Weight: 1200 kg
Safety: 3 point seatbelts with structural bracing
Steering: Hydraulic power steering

Interior

Seats: Front Cloth bucket seats with manual adjustment Rear Cloth Bench
Dash: Vinyl dashboard and faux wood trim with digital gauges
Radio: 8 track cassette player stuck to play Foreigner and Poison constantly
Seating: 2+2

Performance Figures

Power to weight: 253 hp per tonne
Top Speed: 170 mph
0-60: 5.1
1/4 mile: 13.14s @ 113 mph
250m cornering test: 1.03 G @ 112 mph


##1990 Dimension Paradox 4 (CGR52)

So much has changed underneath and outside that we decided to call it an entirely new generation of the Paradox sports car. Unfortunately, some genius decided that we should move it upmarket and have it compete with exotics and supercars by making the uber expensive high performance model the only model. You can tell how that worked out because this killed the model line until '05.

Not a bad car by any means though. The DOHC 5 valve head was designed from ground up, extensive aerodynamics work to ensure the car had zero lift at high speeds made it one of the first production cars to break the 8 minute mark on the famed Nurburgring course.

Engine

Code: GO50EI
Configuration: 5 liter 90 degree flatplane V8 Aluminum
Heads: Aluminum DOHC with 5 valves per cylinder
Aspiration: Natural
Fueling: Bosch MPFI with Independent Throttle Bodies
Recommended fuel: 95 octane
Redline: 7200 RPM
Power: 442 HP @ 6600 RPM
Torque: 500 NM @ 5000 RPM
Transmission: 5 speed manual with torsen diff
Engine weight: 227 kg

Chassis

Code: CGR52
Body: Steel monocoque with aluminum body panels
Tires: F 275mm R 275mm R17 Touring Tires
Suspension: F Double Wishbone R Double Wishbone with gas dampers
Brakes: F Vented 2 piston discs 325mm R Vented 1 piston discs 235mm with ABS
Curb Weight: 1280 kg
Safety: 3 point seatbelts with structural bracing
Steering: Hydraulic power steering

Interior

Seats: Front Cloth bucket seats with manual adjustment Rear Cloth Bench
Dash: Vinyl dashboard and steel trim with digital gauges
Radio: 8 track cassette player
Seating: 2+2

Performance Figures

Power to weight: 341 hp per tonne
Top Speed: 180 mph
0-60: 4.6
1/4 mile: 12.54 @ 124 mph
250m cornering test: 1.2 G @ 121 mph
60-0: 89 ft
Laguna Seca: 1:41.73
Airfield: 1:18.29
Automation TT: 2:09.77
Nordeschleife: 7:55.76

MSRP
5.4: $20,000 (40% mark up)
Paradox 4: $ 41,000 (110% mark up)

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