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Falukorven's garage -- 2020 not-Saab 9-5


#1

In this thread, I’ll simply just post cars I’ve designed. Some will be entirely fictional, some will be inspired by real car designs to different degrees.

Here’s a yank tank. The 1968 Liberty Motors Éclat. A 6 meter long luxury barge with mushy suspension, horrid fuel economy and handling like a cruise ship. A car that your Supreme Leader would be chauffeured around in. A car for a CEO. The pinnacle of luxury in the late 60s. This one has a 247hp 5.7L V8.

Here’s the Éclat S-Line. A souped up Éclat with hand crafted interior, a phonograph and even worse fuel economy! Featuring a 403hp 7.8L V8. The Éclat S-line does 7.4 MPG combined.


#2

Time to revive this thread with a 2020 Saab 9-5. Well, my vision of what a 2020 Saab would be since I love Saabs. Featuring Saab-like styling, the famous Saab H-engine and a proprietary 400hp twin turbo V6.

It comes in many flavors, from a sedan to a wagon or convertible but here, I’ll post pictures of the sedan version and one convertible version. Next post, there may or may not be a Saab premium/luxury crossover because every automaker is making crossovers nowadays, so it would be fair to assume Saab would make one as well.

Engine options:

  • B205 2.0L turbo Inline 4, 206hp, 266Nm. An evolution of the B204, tuned for a balance between performance and fuel efficiency.
  • B235 2.3L turbo Inline 4, 301hp, 363Nm. An evolution of the famous 2.3L I4 used in the Saab 9-3 Viggen. It now makes a comeback with even more power.
  • B350 3.5L twin turbo V6, 405hp, 454Nm. A recent addition to the Saab engine lineup. Used in high performance vehicles only.

Note: There’s also diesel, hybrid and electric options but I won’t write any details about them since I don’t know what reasonable specs would be for these engines.


Saab 9-5 2.0T. The base trim with a 6 speed manual and 2L I4.


Saab 9-5 Viggen. The famous sleeper with the mighty B235 2.3L engine and a 6 speed manual. 0-100 km/h in just 5.9 seconds. This features the iconic blue color found on the original Viggen car.


Saab 9-5 Gripen. Named after the famous Swedish fighter jet, this is the top of the line high performance version of the 9-5, featuring AWD, a 6 speed DCT and a 405hp V6 and superb cornering capabilities.


Saab 9-5 2.3 Aero Cab. A fun little sports car with the Viggen engine. Has a more sports oriented suspension then the Viggen sedan.


#3

Why use the ancient H-engine in 2020 if you’re not a Chinese company? Also it looks a bit like some late 90s styling transplanted on a more modern body - trim lines, black matte plastic, orange indicators, small grille and no trace of LED or laser tech.


#4

Why change something that’s already good? The Bentley L-series V8 has been in production since 1959 for example. The H engine has been around since 1981 (production ended in 2009 in the real world) so it’s not that old really. My iteration is very modern with direct injection and whatnot.

And maybe the pics don’t do the lights justice but there’s LED running lights inside the light fixtures so I saw no need for excessive LED designs. Also was trying to go for as much of a Saab look as possible without over-designing anything.


#5

Emissions and profitability, that’s why. L-series was quite unique in its enormous production time, and it was an engine from a very specific, small segment. You don’t see many such long running engines in more mundane cars, especially nowadays. 39 years is old.

Also “not over-designing” results in a dated or cheap looking design for modern cars. That’s just the way it is. Saab look is not about using 90s details. You can take the 99 and the 9-5 NG and still find family resemblance, even though they’re decades apart. I’m not saying the idea or style of your design is bad, I’m just saying that you’ve made choices in a design meant to be new that make it look totally not new just by themselves. If this was a vision of a cancelled 2005 9-5 it would be perfectly fine, but it just doesn’t cut it as a 2020 thing.


#6

The H-engine also still had its roots in the Triumph engine used in the 99 (though it was extensively reworked by Saab and was much better than the Triumph unit ever was). So it’s really an old construction by now, even if the later units really shows that Saab could do miracles with what they had to work with so no bad words said about the H engine…


#7

The engine is basically only using the bore and stroke of the H engine but everything else, from materials used to emission ratings, is up to modern standard.

I was looking a lot of the early and mid 2000s Saabs for design inspiration so that influenced it. Though I wouldn’t say that not over-designing automatically leads to an outdated or cheap design.

The latest Volvo S90 doesn’t have a bazillion LEDs, 100MW lasers, jet engines, a fusion reactor or a warp drive on it. It’s a neat, clean and simple contemporary design. Same goes for the XC90 and most of Volvo’s current lineup. So that’s what I went for; something clean but modern and Saab-like.

Also, the indicators inside the headlight unit on my design is supposed to be yellow LED, and there’s a LED circle around the headlight bulb things (you could pick different light colors on it in Automation at least lol), and the rear light fixtures have LED-style of bulbs inside them, below the glass, which doesn’t really show up well on the pictures.


#8

Whatever, I’ve made my point and that’s enough for me. I would never guess that this is in any way inspired by the new Volvos. As for the engine, from that description it seems to be an evolution of the H-engine, not that engine itself. This changes quite a bit.


#9

The body may be from 2009, which is fine, but the fixtures are more appropriate for something made a whole decade earlier. And it needs a completely new engine lineup as well.


#10

I really liked the idea of simple design, in an era when almost every car manufacturer seems to overstyle their vehicles, except Volvo, in my opinion. I’d personally used more modern fixtures, e.g. for the grille and the head and taillights. I’d like to see the diesel specs - since hybrid or elecrtic are not featured -, which you can emulate by raising the compression ratio, lower the red line, tune properly the turbocharger and so on.


#11

@falukorven
Hey, what parts have you used to make the front grille and the vents next to the headlights?


I tried doing the same, but at the end I surrendered and tried to separate the main grille from the vents using some small chromed trim pieces. Really like your design, especially from the back