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Generations II: The Full Line Challenge [LORE][RD 8 SUBMISSIONS]


@Elizipeazie it’s a challenge, not a requirement. If your lore dictates using the Mimas, doo eeet!


KATSURO AUTOMOTIVE - Round 3 Aftermath

The sixties saw KATSURO struggling to maintain its newfound dominance in the US market. While sales were okay, the company did not see the growth it expected compared to previous years. It turns out that the brand struggled with the release of the A-R15. It became an American meme, being called the “AR-slug” as it was deemed the cheap man’s muscle car. Turns out that petrol was cheap, and people had the money in a booming economy to buy and feed the gas guzzlers of the competition. The company decided to revisit the idea of the car and see what could be improved upon for a future release.

Where KATSURO saw ncreased sales were in the Utility segment with the X-2. Turns out that a 4 door pickup truck has many uses for the regular American family, and its great offroad capabilities made it a choice for many heavy industry fleets, as well as farmers across the country.

The L-2 was praised for its engine and comfort but lost out on practicality to its competitors. Still, it was a great all-rounder that balanced out the sales of the tanking AR, and supported by strong sales of the dirt-cheap A-1, which was a common choice for first-time buyers.

Future Plans

-Tanashi instructs chief designers to plan for a refresh of the King and Princess, and orders a revision of the AR-15.
-Detroit Factory Expansion to meet increased sales demand for Compact and Intermediate Class cars.
-Revision of new engines and models released in 1966 backed by 10% increase in Research budget.
-More dealerships opened across the country, now spanning 22 states by 1972, up from 15. More factory expansion plans in anticipation for future growth.


King: The New king now came in 2 variants, The standard King and the King Royale Entry, a presidential convertible built to the highest standards. Engine capacity was increased to 5.2 l and produced a lot more torque to haul this behemoth. The Classic design of the previous model was kept but refreshed for a more modern and sleek design.

Princess: The Princess received a new 2.6 l inline 6 that produced around 100 hp, and received significant updates to ride quality and technology, resulting in increased reliability, performance, safety, comfort and economy

A-R15:…cosmetic changes, a retuned engine now producing over 200hp while keeping the weight at 1250 kilos, meant the car now was reaching 60 MPH in less than 8 seconds, and had a top speed of over 200 kmh.



i am sorry to bother, but i have to ask…

am i correct in believing the entry category hierarchy is as follows:
(from small to large)

  • Compact
  • Intermediate
  • Full Size
  • Luxury


  • Sports
  • Utility
  • Muscle

otherwise i might have mixed up the Mimas and Dione…


That is the order. Intermediate being in the middle of compact and full size as the name implies.


then i actually am using the Mimas fo the next Muscle car entry…
boy that small boye is gonna go hard

thanks for clarifying


hi, I’m back after like 2 months away, and have lost any ability to play this game, so I’m gonna pull out. Cheers



This is objectively terrible @Vri404, I grieve with thee…


Bogliq USA 1966 Aftermath

The future for Bogliq USA was looking rosy, having swept the field in every major category and placing on the podium in the rest, so the engineering team felt they were untouchable… But, like all illusions, this was to be shattered for one engineer literally days after Bogliq’s victory had hit the newsstands.

You see the engineer was a car enthusiast, as was his brother, and he was always taking the latest Bogliq Action Express home to show off to the family. It just so happened that his brother had also bought a new muscle car, a Silverhare Spear GTA (in Orange you glad), so he simply had to ask his brother, “why no Bogliq AE?”. His brother replied that the Bogliq is too slow in a straight line, he needed to win the red light drag race, but the Bogliq didn’t have the brute force needed to burst out of the hole. No point overhauling them once the little V8 has fully wound up, that shit’s for losers, you gotta get to the next light first or you gotta go home!

The brothers then had a race, a midnight run from their house to the top of the local mountain lookout, which saw the 443AE simply unable to pass the big orange coupe. The 443AE hung in there and a really good race driver may (and I strongly stress may) have been able to win but, for the enthusiast, the 443AE just didn’t have the oomph to allow for a decisive overtake; the motor just took too long to wind up, plus the long gears in the 4 speed kept dropping the AE off-cam just when you needed more speed…

Much chargined by this experience, the engineer contacted Bogliq HR on the Monday, letting them know the research was wrong and someone had failed to ask the right questions. This was duly passed on, resulting in a massive re-vamp of almost all the entire line-up. The cars might have been objectively better than the opposition, but perception mattered to buyers just as much, so changes were made to ensure that objective reality aligned with popular perception. This ensured that Bogliq USA was able to maintain their models popularity for longer than usual.

The engineer who blew the whistle was rewarded with a major windfall; a big fat bonus cheque! His 1969 Christmas celebration would become legendary in his family as “The time the vittles 'n libations fell like the rain”…

Bogliq Primarius pancakes at 100mph!

Journal of the SAE, February 1969

Looks like the naysayers are right, the double wishbone rear suspension in the Bogliq Primarius is too weak. Initially not an issue in the 1966 250 models, the 1968 performance update versions are overstressing their rear ends, which ultimately collapse leading to a dangerous slide to a halt. This is primarily located on the fuel tank, which could cause a massive fire, but hasn’t seen anyone die to date…

Bogliq USA has, to their credit, responded quickly to the problem, recalling all the 260’s and 269’s for a complete rear end conversion and a $1,000 repatriation cheque. Affected owners are also able to get a complete refund of the purchase price if they so desire. Bogliq HQ have issued a statement to affected owners that they need to stay under 60mph and avoid hard acceleration but that they should immediately get the rectification work done as there is no guarantee that even mild use will avoid the rear end collapsing.

Bogliq USA has suspended sales of the Primarius line, since it’s a slow seller anyway, so anyone who intends to purchase a luxury Bogliq we advise to shop elsewhere or wait for the new model, due in 1970…


Close. Take “luxury” out as its own line because it can be applied to any size. However, during the 70’s, American Luxury buyers were definitely buying as big as they could find. That trend really doesn’t change for luxury until the 90’s.

Also, there will be a switch in a couple rounds, as “intermediate” gets renamed “mid-size” (literature referring to cars this way changed around the late 80’s)


(Warning, Lazy ad campaign incoming)

(excerpt from from Cincinnati Enquirer Automotive section, shortly after the LA Auto Show in November):

Ardent 1972 Offerings:


For the '72 model year, the Sentinel compact sedan, coupe, and wagon continue virtually unchanged, save for alterations to the bumpers to meet federal standards. It is a poorly kept secret that Ardent is in the process of designing an all new Sentinel, so we expect the status quo until that is released. We’ve been told that will be the '74 model year.


Ardent has announced a rather sizable shakeup of the Chesapeake line this year. The Jetsetter convertible trims are now gone, and new base L and mid-trim S model two-doors join the lineup. The L 2-door is only available with the 203 cubic inch Orion straight-six, though one has the option of a 3-speed manual or 3-speed automatic. The S 2-door is only available with a 289 cid Toledo V8 and a 3-speed auto. The remaining two door options, the 333 GT, 444 SS, and 444 Super SS, remain unchanged.

Other changes to the line are minor. The base L models now gain an in-dash analog clock that higher trims have had for years. Minor changes were made to the pattern of the optional cloth seating surfaces. Finally, the bumpers and brackets have been revised to meet upcoming federal crash standards.


Ardent’s pony car gains a little extra weight this year with the addition of federally compliant bumpers. S models now an in-dash clock standard, and L models gain new wheel options.


Ardent’s flagship sedan soldiers on with no major changes. The rumor mill is, however, flying that the Townsend-exclusive fuel-injected version of the 444 cid big block will soon make its way into the Manhattan.

A100 and A200 series trucks and vans

Since Ardent’s little truck-world coup in 1969 of making the 444 big block available in the A100 series, it has proven quite popular. Popular enough that, for the '72 model year, the 333 small block will no longer be available in the A200 series, as Ardent tries to shift more attention to its heavier duty workman’s vehicles.

Townsend 1972 Offerings:


Townsend’s small but luxurious offering continues on for yet another year with minimal changes, giving rise to the question as to Ardent’s long-term intentions towards this line, or any Townsend for that matter. The good news is you can still get the Trinidad with a 289 cid V8. The bad news is you can also still get it with the questionable 140 cid Templar straight-six.


What could have once been considered a premium sports car now languishes after years without major updates. Like the Trinidad, it can still be had with a 140 six or 289 eight.


The bright spot in the Townsend lineup is definitely the Toulouse. Based on the Ardent Manhattan, it still holds on to its exclusivity of the fuel-injected 444 cubic inch big block. This makes for a smoother ride than the equivalent Ardent, plus the interior just feels more refined. Townsend has hinted at further changes to this model over the next couple years.

Submitted models:
Ardent Chesapeake L sedan w/203 and 3-spd auto
Ardent Chesapeake 444 Super SS w/4-speed manual
Townsend Toulouse base w/444 MechJect and 3-spd auto


Hey @VicVictory, is this dealt with in the same way as with the taillights (i.e. two bulbs required if in a single fixture)?

Or do I have to have separate fixtures for the turn and park signals?


Ah, I forgot to put in there what I put in later rounds of the original Generations.

For parking and turn signals up front, at this time, there MUST be some form of visual separation. Either the fixture must have different color bulbs for each purpose, or they have to be separate fixtures.


I suspected that might be the case, so I’ve placed separate fixtures for turn and park signals… :nerd_face:


Parking lights and turn signals don’t seem to be consistently distinct in a lot of cars. Hard to tell in this for example


1972 Hampton Model Range

Lore post

For 1972, the Hampton Motor Group model range now includes the following vehicles:

  • Intermediate: Valiant II Prime 3.5 - Refreshed for 1972 with a new front-end design, the Valiant II range has received safety upgrades for the new decade, along with minor powertrain revisions for improved performance and efficiency. Standard equipment on the Prime trim shown above includes an 8-track player and cast-alloy wheels.

  • Muscle: Valiant II 5.0 Supersprint - An even more powerful version of the existing Valiant Sprint, with a more highly tuned engine than before, now developing 270 net horsepower - a formidable amount in such a small, light car. Forged magnesium alloy wheels, 4-wheel disc brakes and a sportier suspension tune are all standard on this trim.

  • Luxury: Vanguard II 5.0 Sedan - A revised version of our flagship luxury sedan introduced in 1969, powered by a detuned version of our 5.0L pushrod V8 developing 200 horsepower and kitted out with more standard equipment than lesser models in our range, including fully independent hydro-pneumatic suspension, with genuine leather and woodgrain interior trim, plus a high-end AM radio and 8-track player. This is also the first Hampton ever to be fitted with hydro-pneumatic suspension.

Please contact your nearest dealer for pricing and test drive inquiries.


1 week, 1 day, 2 hours till submissions due for this round.


I need to reinstall Automation. @VicVictory


1972 Hakumai Crest (XA) GL

Hakumai’s first attempt at a vehicle. It’s a partsbin of Multiple cars and it sold well in the US Market because of the oil crisis, Because of that, the car is pitifully underpowered at 77 Horsepower and 84Lb ft of torque, It will be their only car until 1981. The only trim you could buy at the time, The car only has 1 engine option, and other cosmetic options. The XA Platform was only suited to hatchbacks.


Under 72 hours left and I still need submissions from:

@ProfesserP3PP3R (…can’t seem to tag? Renamed or even still on the forum?)
@interior (1 of 3 submissions received)