Realism Challenge 5- Super Economy Car

Exactly

I used 95 Octane in my model entry (see rule post) with a 6.5l V12

Count me in for this. I have a few entries that could be good entrants

I have updated the rules, you can now build Viper esque cars from 1990-2005 if you so wish (the model entry is a 2002)

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Is hand made acceptable for interior?

I don’t think so, but a luxury interior can be used. Premium and sport interiors require +5 quality or more.

Now here is my entry, the NMC Python GTS. As the first entrant to submit a vehicle I have thrown down the gauntlet with this insane offering of mine:

The GTS is the flagship version of NMC’s all-alloy grand tourer, the Python. A high-quality luxury interior and entertainment suite allow its two occupants to cross whole continents in comfort, and a well-sorted suspension setup with semi-active dampers and sway bars combines a compliant ride with excellent roadholding.

Under the hood of the GTS is a dry-sumped 7.2-liter normally aspirated V12 with a magnesium block and aluminum/silicon heads. Developing 766 bhp at 7800 rpm, and with a redline of 8200 rpm, this monster of an engine powers the rear wheels through a seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox and electronic LSD. A fat torque curve makes for effortless cruising, and active aero keeps the car planted on the ground at any speed.

With a top speed of 220 mph, an 0-60 mph time of exactly four seconds, 1.29g of lateral acceleration and near-perfect 49.5/50.5 weight distribution, the Python GTS disguises its near-two-ton kerb weight very easily. A lap time of 1:14.43 around the Airfield Track is to be expected even from such a heavy car, but 7:29.43 around the Green Hell is surprisingly fast for something of its size and is genuine proof of its breadth of ability.

Even at an estimated price of $73050 with markups the NMC Python GTS is still well under the $120k cost limit, and pound for pound is definitely one of the best, if not the best, grand tourers on the market.

This vehicle was created using the current stable release and runs on 95 octane unleaded, which is the highest grade of fuel commonly available in Fruinia, allowing it to be sold there, despite high running costs due to its high-displacement engine. Due to its extreme performance, it also easily qualifies as both a supercar and a hypercar. A wide range of exterior and interior colors is available; the car shown here is finished in Imperial Crimson, a deep metallic red, although customers can even specify their own color combinations at extra cost, right down to the paint finish and interior material types.

Note: unlike @koolkei, I did not misspell Python; this will help avoid any confusion between a luxury grand tourer and a four-cylinder compact.

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Presenting the 1990 Bogliq Envoy GT!!!

Fast, powerful and stylish, the Envoy GT was built to take a driver and their 3 passengers wherever they wanted without compromise. As with most Bogliq models, the Envoy hasn’t sacrificed driver involvement for convenience, with the Envoy packing a rifle-bolt smooth 5 speed manual.

The Envoy GT also used less fuel than most of its competitors as Bogliq’s ethos is to maximise the levels of fun derived from every drop of petrol. This is why the Envoy is tuned for 95RON; decent availability and relative cheapness compared to the far more exotic 98RON just made available made it a no-brainer!

As for handling prowess?

The Envoy GT weighed under 1700kg and had nearly 500Kw so it was going to be fast, but when the Envoy achieved an 8 minute lap of the Green Hell, Bogliq’s engineers were ecstatic! No-one expected the bad boy from behind the Iron Curtain to do so well…

And what did this magical mix of speed, refinement and handling cost?

$75900 driveaway :heart_eyes:

A lot for a Bogliq but a small sum to own a piece of Bogliq automotive history! :sunglasses:

Buy better, buy Bogliq!

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who ever said i misspelled it? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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@CamKerman Do you think you could either update the OP, or link the new rule set in the OP?

I’ve got one of my production cars ready, all depends on whether hand made interior is acceptable or not.

Your car is called Phyton, not Python - I remember the Fighter variant as the overall winner of the ARTC (American Road Trip Challenge), hosted by @asdren.

If a hand made interior (as proposed by @BobLoblaw) is not permitted, just go with a luxury interior as I and @HighOctaneLove did. For the record, my Python GTS is, somewhat surprisingly, better value for money than the Envoy, with a 21st century interior and infotainment suite, and also a superior performer overall, as well as being slightly cheaper to boot.

Also, until I realized the point of this challenge, I also considered submitting a cheaper, lighter version of the Python, the Clubsport R, with a fixed manually adjustable rear wing, powered by a six-liter cross-plane V8 and fitted with a six-speed manual gearbox and conventional mechanical LSD. However, although this version was more reliable, I doubt it would have been as effective as the one I submitted due to the emphasis on comfort and prestige required for this challenge, and wouldn’t have been as fast anyway:

I believe @HighOctaneLove went for SOHC for cost and reliability reasons, but my newer and smaller direct-injected DOHC engine redlines a whole 1300 rpm later - not surprising since a quarter-century separates these engines. But an 8-minute time around the Green Hell must have been incredible by 1990 standards, although the negative downforce on your entry must have made it feel very scary indeed. And my PM to @CamKerman only contained the V12-powered GTS - the V8-powered, manual transmission-equipped Clubsport R, with its sport interior (+5 quality as stipulated by the rules) is not part of the export file I sent to him, although if this contest were about building FIA GT3 homologation specials the Clubsport R would have been preferable due to its track-focused nature, but that’s not the be-all and end-all of this challenge, so twelve cylinders it was for my submission.

In addition, I used 95RON unleaded for the same reason as @HighOctaneLove - if I had gone for 91RON regular fuel, I would have had to sacrifice some power and economy by decreasing the compression ratio, and although regular unleaded is widely available in Archana, I doubt any customers there would be able to afford the Python GTS at the $73K post-markup price. Conversely, choosing 98RON super unleaded would have allowed me to increase the compression ratio even further, thus improving economy and output, but this high-octane fuel is only commonplace in Gasmea, hence my decision to stick with 95RON premium fuel.

what i meant was… it was a ‘mistake’ made on purpose.

… and 26 years younger than my entry! :laughing:

the $120k is the sale price right?

i’m gonna go bonkers! :smiley:


i think i just made a hypercar rather than a gt car…

I’m thinking of submitting a restored classic, but should I go with my late 50s Delux Limited or the mid 60s El Govnor?

Both are the company’s Luxury Sport Convertible (LSC) special. I’m thinking the El Govnor due to the Big Block V8.

Edit: I have to go with the El Govnor due to the minimum displacement rule.

Believe it or not, I also toyed with the idea of submitting a classic late 60s/early 70s GT car with a huge OHV V8 well before this challenge began, and had already made several such entries which either met the requirements or only needed minor changes to do so. I even made a neo-classic (1990-2005) GT car using the not-Viper body provided by @Corvette6317, but chose not to submit a car from either time period because I was sure I would do much better with a modern entry (2013-16) instead.

Alright folks, time for something a little bit different.

##Presenting the Erin Super Aventa



Uh, I think you seem to be missing the point. That’s a sedan, not a GT.
That’s what you think. The Aventa may well be our luxury limousine, but this the Super Aventa.

Super Aventa? What’s the difference?
Well, basically, we asked our in-house tuning company The X Department to work their magic and make sports version of the car. But, in this area of the car market, you need to be more than just fast - you need to be luxurious too.

So this is a sort of super-saloon then?
Pretty much. But engage [alpha][color=red]X[/color] MODE[/alpha] (by pressing the big ‘X’ button on the centre console) and the suspension sharpens up, the gearbox becomes swifter you get the full force of the engine at your disposal. Result? You’ve got a 4 door GT saloon.

Mmmm. Sounds like a promising mix. And speaking of that engine…?
A 5.8l V12, the only V12 in our current generation of engines (the Pureon line). Hence, it’s been made to be efficient and low-polluting; this thing costs less than £150 a year to tax in the UK!

Bloody hell. But it doesn’t sound that powerful for a V12.
PAH! 633 bhp, and enough torque to change the orbital path of the moon.

And the performance specs?
0-60 in 4.8 seconds with the sequential transmission, top speed 220 mph. And thanks to the excellent sound proofing design, you get to hear that glorious V12 roar without the wind noise you’d expect at such speeds.

But who’s going to be doing 220 mph?!
Oh come on. Have you seen the kinds of people who buy this car?

What do you mean?
Well, take a look at this page from the brochure and you might get the picture.

Ah. I see what you mean now. All that chrome must make it quite heavy though…
…Yeeeah. 2.15 tons to be precise. This isn’t made for the track, unlike some of the competitors. But then again, we’ve got bucket loads of extra features inside, such as a champagne cooler, reclining rear seats, adjustable sound proofing (as explained earlier), built-in media system with on-board storage, in-car WiFi and much more.

Nice. And the price?
It’s yours for £84600. Excluding VAT. Optional extras will cost extra. Each sold separately…

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Nice to see you approach this contest with a different approach from mine, which adds to the variety of the field. I want to see how your luxury saloon stacks up against my NMC Python GTS, an all-aluminum two-seater >700 bhp supercar, since unlike that car, yours is less powerful, even heavier and more expensive, but that’s fully justifiable since your Super Merna is aimed at a totally different kind of customer. It does have the same top speed as the Python, though, and 633 bhp in a saloon is just plain cool. The amazing thing is that the Python’s top speed would have been even higher if it didn’t have a downforce undertray, but I installed one anyway just to get a faster lap time around the Green Hell.

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I know what you’re thinking. As you stand in the dealership looking at the 2017 Lamborghotti Fastarossa you can’t help but think about the three you saw on the way to work this morning. Something that common place clearly projects one image: I’m a snob with too much bloody money! What to do? What to do? Clearly you’re an individual with impeccable tastes, but you don’t want something that say’s you’re just a big show off. Neither do you want something that will hardly stand out because every trust fund yahoo is bombing around in one.

We at Ventnor understand your dilemma, and we have a way out. What you need is something that stands out, but not in a bad way. Something that is ideal for discerning, cultured individuals like yourself. With all due respect, most new models in your demographic are either obnoxious or worse, boring. But, say you had an automobile that reflected not only your exquisite tastes, but also your knowledge of the true finer things in life. We have the perfect car for you. A true American classic from the time where soul and passion were combined with American ingenuity to create the perfect grand tourer:

The 1970 Ventnor Bambino GT.

When the Ventnor Bambino was first built in 1965, it was a cutting edge state of the art driving machine. However as technology moved on, Ventnor was quick to keep up.


In 1969 for instance, Ventnor created the company’s first fuel injected engine. A year later, that same engine was improved to create a sporty powerhouse.

When Ventnor first introduced the 402 in 1965, it was originally intended for use in the front-wheel-drive Statesman. The potential for a smaller yet powerful V8 was not lost and a performance version was quickly drawn up for use in the Bambino. It was a 402 that became the first fuel injected engine for Petoskey Motors. One year later, it was obvious this new technology could vastly improve the performance version as well, and it did. An astounding 10% increase in power helps rocket the Bambino GT from 0-60 in an impressive 4.3 seconds.

When the Bambino was built in 1965, it was already an impressive machine. It was fast, sleek, but it always lacked something. The car was built for sport, which is all well and good, but this is a Ventnor a car for luxury. When 1970 rolled around the car was upgraded to its true potential.

What we had was a modern take on the 1945 Ventnor Speedster. At the time the Speedster was the fastest, most luxurious car in the world. But where the Speedster commanded a cost of over $400,000 and only ten were made, the Bambino and subsequent Bambino GT were made in far greater numbers.

With the Bambino GT, you’re not just getting a car, you’re getting a piece of history. And with that history comes a driving experience like none other. It is a car you could take from New York to Long Beach only to realize you forgot your bathing suit. But that wouldn’t matter because you could then drive the car back to retrieve it. Everything from the driving experience, the sportiness, the magnificent chapter in history, all of it can be yours for only $98,700. A steal in today’s market, especially when dealing with a true classic.

Ventnor: Luxury Redefined.

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You had me at “Trust fund yahoo”.

@abg7 I look forward to contesting with the Python. Any car branded with “GTS” is good in my books :stuck_out_tongue: