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Road Rally - 1952 Corso di Fruinia [DRIVING - STAGE 2 RESULTS IN]


#286

“Fifty!?”
“Uh, yeah…”
“Fifty minutes! Behind the next car! What a lousy time”. Stated Gregory Durant, “Jim, you better get this car under control next time”.
“But, I mean—“
“Look. It’s a fun Italian cruiser. Rally car, no”.
“Well, wasn’t it your decision to buy the thing?”
“Yes, but it was Ray’s decision to focus on the power, not on handling”.
“Well,” said Jimmy, “what if I drive slower?”
“Isn’t that obvious?”
“Ok.”
Jimmy started to leave the room, when he turned back.
“Hey. What’s gonna happen to Ray?”
“He’ll stay, but I know one thing”.
“What?”
“Ray Lemont will not design another car for Redmond Racing”.


#287

“How are we looking michael?”

“Not good. We’re very far down points wise on an overall, halfway through the field. Manufacturers we’re near the bottom, but that’s to be expected. I hope you can make your magic again like last year.”

“I don’t know. Something feels off about this chassis. It will have to do but when we get back to Brooklands I’m building a new one. It’s a shame it sells for so much otherwise we’d be higher up.”

“It’s that Triplecarb setup you’ve got. She runs like an absolute dream but I bet that cost you a pretty penny Edward.”

“It did. I couldn’t imagine not running it though. I know we can find so much more power. I knew the chassis wasn’t ready for it, and the tyres. I could pull an extra 40 horsepower from that engine if I gave up on making it bulletproof, but then it would be an undriveable mess, even Davide Acosta wouldn’t be able to tame it.”

“That bad? Well, it could have gone worse for us, and she’s still the prettiest car running on that hill.”

“I just hope we don’t run into issues. We need a stroke of luck to burst into the top 5, even with good pace.”


#288

Oh, @Private_Miros, at the different stops, is modifying allowed?


#289

Looking at the total times, I’m surprised that Runabout has better score than Hurja.
I’m also almost shoked to see Kulkuri Special being above Familyman.

I was expecting Hurja being the highest scoring car, followed by Familyman and Runabout, and Kulkuri being somewhere further back, and Kulkuri Special even further behind.

How ever I’m quite happy at my manufacturer standing


#290

The smaller and slower Žnopresk won the first place overall. Wonderful! :grin:


#291

Dang, the combined points of Suzume, Ardent, and Townsend would put them in 2nd for Mfr… :slight_smile:


#292

Hanson Motorsports Research - Stage 1 Report

Josh & Kev had been eagerly anticipating the challenge of the Corso di Fruinia, and when the time finally came to get going, they gave it their all over several dozen miles of mixed driving. Eventually, they completed the first stage in 25th overall and 7th in class - a solid effort considering that the car was in modified production spec and not a race car. This wasn’t a surprise, but the fact that the overall lead belonged to a sub-800cc car (specifically, a Znopresk Z849) was. Shortly after the finish, they began discussing about how it could possibly have put in such a giant-killing performance:

“That little thing outperformed the big beasts of the field, including its larger-engined stablemate… Handily. And I might just have found out why…”

“It’s likely that the Z849 is really easy to drive compared to its rivals. Those ingenious Italians sure know how to make a competitive racer or two.”

“I suspect that the Z849 is FWD and hence is more manageable on loose surfaces - most of the time, at least. It’s also highly economical as well.”

“We might not have a chance to catch it, unfortunately, but we’ll do our best to finish strongly in our class. There are many more stages to come after this one, so be prepared…”

After this brief discussion, the team retreated to its garage and began preparations for the next stage of the rally.


#293

No, that would be a bit too much of administration from my part as well.

But the terrain is different in the shorter Stage 2 and the sprint-like Stage 3. So, don’t dispair if a car didn’t fare well on the gravel climb and the icy roads.

As I said at the very beginning, a small car with limited but usable horsepower is better on twisty roads than a big car with a big heavy engine. These 50’s cars don’t have the grip, rigidity or brakes to makes use of the power the bigger engine offers. With modern cars things would be different, because you can basically point and squirt.

In general the lighter cars have performed well, and the fastest times were still set by rear-wheel drive cars.

Those with more power that performed well are generally those with lots of low end torque, so you can shortshift or take corners in high gear and not suffer wheelspin.

Generally the worst performers were those with bad suspension tuning and/or lots of power in the high rev range, but relatively little in the low range (leading to nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, sudden wheelspin).


#294

Quite honestly I was expecting that too even thuogh I didnt know what kind of stages we would exactly be driven.
Soon as I figured that the stage 1 is essentially outer loop of Automation test track, I expected that Runabout and Familyman doing well on gravel uphill and Kulkuri and especially Kulkuri Special to suffer there. and from hurja I expected that it would be “somewhere in between” them.
From top of the hill I expected that Runabout might shine there, how ever the part with ice patches isnt very long I didnt expect it to get too massive lead to others.
From downhill and final stretch I expecteed Hurja to catch up the others thanks to it’s better suspension and power advantage on the straight, Specially as it wasnt really damaged. How ever I didnt expect anything groundbraking, Just enough to pass them.
The largest surprise to me is Kulkuri Special being faster than Kulkuri and even beating Familyman.


#295

Stage Report

#25: doing an OK job, hopefully the next leg will be more to our strengths
#22: almost certainly fully buggered up by the crash on the final sector.


#296

Yeah, sorry, #22 is one of three cars totally out.

3/108 is not that bad driving I may hope…


#297

well, back to the factory to repair it for future, more fully road oriented, competition.


#298

Wow, congrats to the Bogliq coming 3rd overall so far! :open_mouth:


#299

Woohoo! On Wisconsin!!
Fingers crossed for the next stages.:grinning:


#300

Wow, the arkani is doing very well. I didn’t expect it to be that fast! I mean, Near 200km/h on those roads must be scary as hell!


#301

I remember 3 cars reaching 200 or over.


#302

Ok. Thanks for clarifying! Good luck on stage 2.


#303

i wonder if the nemesis reached 200
OT:
at the Birmingham Camp, the Fruinian branch manager has come up with an idea and is summoning his workers over
Manager: "how many of those 2000 pickups do we have spare at the Fruinia Plant?
Worker: “about 20 sir, why?”
manager: “did you see how much those local farmers wanted one? if we were to give them away, even just a few of them, we could gain a lot of popularity over here”
worker: “especially after that snake incident”
Manager: “marcel, will you do me a favour? go over to the campagnolo factory and tell some of the guys there to get in some of those unsold 2000 Lowlight 4x4s, and meet back here tommorow. you can take my 5000 V8 wagon if you want, it is a fair distance.”
Marcel (worker): “on it, boss!”
1 day later, marcel returns with 12 spare 2000’s which are given to local farmers and craftsmen.


manager: “good, soon everyone here will be driving a BIRMINGAM!”


#304

Stage 2 - Intro

Stage 2 (“mixed stage 1” on Utah) of the Corso is a shorter stage and goes from Fienna to the capital, Coma.

  • Sector 1 - Fienna - Orta

From Fienna, the Corso follows swooping roads in the hills down to the South. A few mountains need to be crossed, but no great height differences generally. The road surfaces are paved, but not always of the best quality. Drivers should be looking out for potholes and rocks on the sides of the roads.

  • Sector 2 - Orta - Coma

At a village called Orta, the Corsa takes the back roads towards Castello di Frui; dirty unpaved roads along the Timero river valley, with some drastic elevation changes here on very rough and uneven surfaces. Past the dirt roads, modern highway appears, with the last stretch towards the Fruinian capital Coma.


One thing we noticed here, is not to trust any Fruinian bridges.

https://streamable.com/s/3zwu5/mnxcyl

This happened a few times, but of course the car got another run then. Except one car (not the one in the clip above), which had this 5 subsequent runs, each time having restarted the game. I then restarted my whole computer and did a 6th run and it again fell through the bridge… The next car did not have any issues at all immediately after that. So I conclude fate hath decided for that car. Sorry for the DNF there, but luck was clearly not on your side.


#305

Stage 2 - …-799cc Class - Report Sector 1

Sector 1 - Fienna - Orta 

No issues for Godini from the PMI Polloi Barudion Aero “Corso” on the first stretch of this stage.

An unusual environment for the prototype Suzume Kaikyu San Ebi Kei car these flowing twisty roads. The small 360cc car manages well enough in terms of handling, but the stresses of high speed downhill sections are a bit too much on the small engine, necessitating more than one service stop.

Solid start from the #89 Epoch Model 10C Modifica. Where the 500cc had issues to climb over the Arpeninos, the engine is more than sufficient to sweep around the roads between Fienna and Orta.

That the KMC 800 Roadster has oversteer issues was already noted. Whether it is luck or skill to limit those oversteer moments of the #63 car to where there is room to have them and not fall down a gorge, that is up for discussion. Certain is though that the last of the spins seems to have caused a tyre to burst which needs to be replaced before continuing towards Orta.

The 17 horsepower Marcello Tipo 300 is unlikely to encounter much issues on the flowing paved roads of Fruscany and Fruinium, the two provinces this stage takes us through. That does not mean the car is spared completely of trouble, as a stop to clean out the air cooler unit shows.

Wearing earmuffs the driver of the CMW S946 Bergmann Special is ready to leave for the second stage of this Corso. This is the noisiest of them all, I’d say, an aspect that caused time loss up in the Arpeninos with the horse-incident, if you remember. It’s clear early on that the swooping roads, even with the bumps, suit the CMW very well, however, about halfway to Orta, the engine breaks down – luckily just a loose throttle body. Since there’s only a driver and no mechanic in the CMW, the repair – certainly when the engine is as inaccessible as it is in the mid-engined CLW, this is taking some time.

It remains a technological marvel for the time, the Juggernaut Automotive Runabout and its front wheel drive system. There aren’t many on the market who run so smoothly and so well in line with its engine. With only a 750cc four-cylinder it isn’t quick, yet neither could you call it slow.

Hopefully this time a run without steering failure or failure of any kind for the Barato Motors 800 Sport Race. The #54 car has one of the most expensive and highly-tuned engines in the field. There were worries before the first stage that the engine would simply disintegrate on itself, but so far so good.

The Condo Sprint with number 93 had some understeer issues in the first stage. The start today looks promising though, perhaps Hill and Collins have worked on the steering or the traction system in the last one and a half days. An alarming crush when cutting a corner can be heard close to Orta, but the car continues seemingly without issues.

From the company at the coasts of the Adriatic, the Znopresk Z849 continues to impress with its acceleration and speed for such a small car. The drive does not always look very comfortable due to the shaking of the car when the chassis is put under stress – which is often on this Corso.

Unhappy faces at the start line with the #46 Aeros Shrew. We heard the issues in the first stage were due to too wide tyres, protruding from the wheel wells, but no solutions could be found. But unexpectedly considering those previous issues, the run up towards Orta actually goes pretty smooth. The more flowing roads and decent asphalt are much easier or the wheels of the car.

The local boys know these roads by heart, but the question is if Martino and Rizzo can turn that knowledge into an advantage with the rather rickety modified Giusseppe G220. The start where a couple of by-standers and Rizzo push the car to get going is turning a bit into a ritual, with Rizzo jumping in the passenger seat once it gets going.

The LSV Mark RS has proven to be fast and sturdy in the first Stage and the team will be looking to confirm. A pigeon of all things is the saboteur not far from Fienna, as it smashes against the front window and breaks it, forcing the team to stop and clean out glass and feathers from the interior.

Wisconsin Motors is leading the manufactures ranking and is hoping the experimental, but cheap, three-cylinder in the WM RatonAereo 654 will hold up. The drive towards Orta at least goes smoothly, the car feeling at home on these twisty roads.

Continued bad luck for the Cisalpina Superleggera 750 as technical issues plague it from the very start of this stage. None of the problems is critical, but overheating, shifting suspension bearings, a stuck brake pedal,… all cause of worry and delay.

The Merciel Modele 1949 Modele 49 Course '49 is hoping to keep its small lead on that other extremely cheap family car, the Marcello. With half the engine more in displacement, that technically speaking should not be an issue. In the run towards Orta it appears as if the driver is struggling with the heavy steering of the little car; not ideal on these bendy roads.

Sturdy, nimble and well-planted; that was the impressions the Birmingham Snake Van Custom left last stage (on us, the impressions on the village of Arpeninetto were of a different nature, though not a lesser one). However, coming over the hills towards Orta, the van turns in too hard in a hairpin and gets stuck with its front wheels in some rocks. It takes considerable time to get loose again, with the rear-wheels spinning half of the ground. By the time they manage to get the van back on the road, the engine is overheating.

Tackling a bunch of corners next, the fast, but decidedly not bent on bends Penrose Customs 800. And, as expected, the #92 car understeers and jerks all over the place. On these narrow twisty country roads, that is a bad combination, and about halfway to Orta, the front rights clips a rock next to the road at high speed – the car having slightly veered off course in mild corner.

Closing the class is the #60 Ceder Abeille 760. The car might look pedestrian, but the pace is not. Some time is lost though as the clutch acts up.