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The Automation Gamer Challenge [ROUND 6]


#21

This seems interesting, the challenge could vary wildly depending on the game the dev chooses. Fingers crossed for GTA VI in 80s Vice City heh


#22

Atleast this isn’t going to crash and burn immediatly. It’s in safe hands for now. Hopefully we can get atleast a few rounds out of this thing with some awesome cover art.


#24

AGC 1 - Arcade Fire

June 6th, 1995 - Things are looking dire at computer game development studio Graviton Games, where most of its staff has been laid off after a string of commercial flops during the past two years. Despite critical acclaim, nobody seems to be buying their games, and it seems unlikely that the studio will survive until the end of the calendar year. Fortunately, lead programmer Ben Wallace, 3D artist Gavin Morris, and executive producer Steve Parkes have remained with the studio, and are about to hatch a plot to save the company with the third installment of their popular racing game, SpeedStorm 3D.

Here’s what Funland looked like back in 1995, for those not old enough to remember what it used to be back then:

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That afternoon, the three men was returning from a quick trip to London, having just spent several hours trying out the arcade games scattered throughout Funland Trocadero at Piccadilly Circus. On the drive back to Graviton HQ in Birmingham, Mr Morris had a brainwave. “So… Those racing games I just played are our inspiration, then?” He thought to himself. “If that’s the case, then SpeedStorm 3D could just be our salvation!”

A few hours later, in the boardroom at Graviton HQ, Ben, Gavin and Steve began their discussion in earnest about what the game would be about:

Ben: All right, boys. SpeedStorm 3D is meant to come out in four months, on PC and home consoles, and it will most likely decide the future of this company - so we must make sure it delivers on all its promises.
Gavin: Spot on - we have a reputation to uphold. The last two games in that series captured the public’s imagination (and sold well to boot) for nailing a simple recipe: fast cars in breathtaking locations set to cool music, combined with an absorbing gameplay experience - one that nobody will ever tire of - and the right control scheme, will always lead to success.
Steve: It’s got me thinking. All those elements were present in those 3D arcade racing games we tried at Funland. Needless to say, this must also apply to SpeedStorm 3D - in other words, it has to be the closest thing you can get to having an actual arcade machine in your living room.
Ben: To that end, it has to feel like an arcade racer - high speeds, crazy jumps, wild drifts, stunning scenery, an ace soundtrack, and - most importantly of all - some cool cars.
Gavin: Speaking of cool cars, this project will never leave the drawing board without them. But I know of a way to get them into our game. I’ll contact their manufacturers for licensing purposes, examine the cars we receive, then decide which ones will be featured in our game.
Steve: Any requirements or restrictions?
Ben: (sighs) OK, here they are:

General Requirements

  • Trim and variant years must be 1995 (model and family years can be older).

  • Body unlock year must be 1985 or later.

  • Wheelbase must be 2.4 to 2.8 meters inclusive, as shown when the cursor is hovering over the body at the body selection tab.

  • Chassis must not be ladder or light truck monocoque; neither of them make any sense for a sports car anyway.

  • Plain steel must not be used for panel or chassis material due to poor environmental resistance values.

  • Must be a 2-door coupe. No other body styles may be chosen.

  • Must have at least two seats but no more than four. Four-seaters may use +2 seating or 2 full-size seats in the rear row.

  • Due to an excessively low drag coefficient, the following bodies must not be used:

Banned bodies

  • No furry mods or meme cars, please!

Mechanical and Statistical

  • Maximum ET: 180 (for both engine and trim)

  • Engine must have 6, 8, 10 or 12 cylinders - in keeping with the sports car/supercar vibe of the game. As Ben put it: “As far as this game is concerned, three- and four-cylinder engines don’t have a place here - leave them to the everyday cars instead.” However, to preserve the balance of the game, any V10 and V12 engines must be naturally aspirated. Also, I don’t have a V16 key.

  • Minimum reliability: 50 (for both engine and trim)

  • No carburetors.

  • No race intake or exhaust, for roadworthiness’ sake.

  • 95 RON premium unleaded fuel required.

  • RWD only with 5-speed or 6-speed manual transmission due to the limitations of the game engine.

  • No offroad differentials (manual or automatic lockers) permitted. Only open diffs, viscous and geared LSDs will be allowed, but the latter two will be appreciated.

  • Tires must be radial sports compound, with front and rear tire widths being a number ending in ‘5’.

  • Cooling airflow must be between 55 and 75 inclusive.

  • Maximum trim emissions: 1000 (as shown in markets tab)

  • Exhaust system must have two mufflers.

  • At least standard 90s safety required.

  • No active, adaptive or semi-active suspension components (such as hydropneumatic or air springs).

Performance recommendations

Cars which meet the following criteria are more likely to be considered for the cover.

  • Minimum cornering G: 1.0

  • 0-60 mph: 6 seconds or less

  • Top speed: 150 mph or more

  • Sportiness brake fade: 1.0% or less

  • No oversteer warnings

  • Each car will have a difficulty rating based on its sportiness value divided by its drivability value - the higher this number, the more challenging it will be to drive.

  • I do not have BeamNG (yet), and will not be using it to determine scoring.

Design

  • Exterior styling is important - right down to the wheel rim shape and exterior color choice. After all, if it looks right, chances are that it is right. In particular the car must have a period-appropriate exterior for 1995.

  • Here are some examples of sports, performance and supercars of the era which might inspire you:

Examples

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1997_toyota_supra_15543346453c3e8dec47ad07BaT_Trevor-Ryan_Supra_038_6051-620x414

Submission guidelines

  • Model and family names: AGC 1 - (your forum user name)

  • Trim name: your car’s name

  • Variant name: your engine’s name

  • Make sure to post a picture of the car you submitted on this thread to accompany your submission.

  • Your car can be either from a previously existing manufacturer (with or without lore), or from a completely new manufacturer created specifically for this challenge - it doesn’t matter if the devs haven’t known about the manufacturer before.

Important Note: No resubmissions allowed - so please make sure that your entry meets all requirements before submitting.

Submissions will open at 12:00 am AEST, August 2nd 2019 and will close at 12:00 am AEST, August 9th 2019. Please note that until submissions open, rules and regulations may be subject to change.

I am using the stable release, but you may submit cars from the open beta if you wish; just make sure to state which build you used. At any rate, even though you are designing cars for an arcade racer, you should still be sensible, but they should still at least look realistic; even so, they have to be “cool cars”, as stated in the brief - a mundane daily driver or economy car simply won’t cut it.

Good luck!


#25

hmmm. seems like a good first challenge.


#27

Depends, does “Active Sport” have the word “active” in it?


#28

Definitely. My reason for banning them is that there’s too much stuff to go wrong if you fit them - and they add cost and weight.


#29

Let’s see if my supercar posted above is fitting within the rules.
If not, prepare for a Wagner or Renoir.


#30

yikes… That’s a jumble of “restrictions” and half would be useless in a video game
Like, who cares what chassis it is if its an arcade game, and why does chassis and panel type specifically exclude plain steel?
Could you make the banned bodies a bit clearer by just circling them with paint or something?
Why mandate a 3 way converter if you already have a max trim rule?

The performance targets are the icing on the cake of “how convoluted and needlessly complex can I make the rules so I can get a very specific type of car without actually telling anyone that’s what I’m looking for”

(yes I get that performance figures are important to a game, but refer to the italicized text to get why they seem like a slap in the face right now)

also to nitpick: brake fade 1% or less? clarify: is that the towing brake fade, the sportiness brake fade, etc.?

(ps: no v16? darnit, I wanted an excuse to build one)


#31

Usually around this time, a majority of cars were of 5 speed variants with certain few being 6 speed. The classic Cruisin’ Arcade Games were 4 speed.
Don’t get me wrong I love the 6 speed, and my real life DD is a 6 speed, but I like to be as close to commonly accurate of the time as possible. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:


#32

Just to clarify on that, here they are:

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As stated previously, the use of these specific bodies will not be allowed for this round because they are too aerodynamically efficient and can therefore reach unnaturally high speeds. The 90s stock car body has a drag coefficient of 0.1, and that of the EV1 mod body is 0.125. The Diablo mod body, on the other hand, has a drag coefficient of just 0.2, which is higher, but still not high enough.

With that in mind, I will relax the targets slightly so that they will be considered mere recommendations rather than strict requirements. Thus, cars which meet the recommendations will now stand a better chance of being chosen as a cover car at the end of this round.

Given that I don’t have a key, I unfortunately have no choice but to say no to V16s.

I was referring to sportiness brake fade. The OP has been updated accordingly.

Good point. I have revised the OP to state that 5-speed and 6-speed manual transmissions may be used.

And submissions are now open.

Please take your time to re-read the OP - the rules and regulations have been finalized and will not be changed.


#33

actually you can use V16’s when someone gives it to you, you just cant edit it. So I think unless they changed that You should be able to.


#34

What criteria will vehicles be judged by?


#35

As stated in the OP, the devs are judging on three criteria: design (what the car’s exterior looks like), performance (how fast it is and how well it handles), and relevance (whether or not it belongs in the game).

Edit: The vanilla Lambo body (which unlocks in 1995) may be used; the mod version (which unlocks in 1986) cannot.


#36

@abg7 Is the vanilla Diablo body ok to be used? Or is that the same situation as the mod version?
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#37

Adonijin Kite 8000S


#38

Iazanda Evolvia GT-8 '95


A mid-90s super-GT car designed by Lavelle Studios. Originally penned to be a replacement for the BMMA Flyingfish, a B-Segment RR Coupe, the final design was considered to be far too exotic and audacious for the premium manufacturer. Thus, the final blueprints were turned into a sports car concept. This car came with a stretched wheelbase, 5-speed manual, convertible top, and 4.5 Liter 382 HP V8 engine sitting atop the rear wheels.





Lavelle Studios - Avant Garde Designs
#39

Same question here, I used the non-mod Diablo and my car would go under the regulations.


#40

Thinking about joining in. I already have this, a mid-90s Turból Cutela, a 4 seat fastback coupe aimed at competing with the likes of the Toyota Supra or 911 Carrera. It will need to be modified for this competition, since it is currently AWD, and with 276 hp and 245 wide tires in it’s current guise, it’s going to be way off the pace of the mid-engined hypercars that will surely be entered.

I’m probably better off just making a hypercar from scratch. But it sure is pretty.


#41

Soon:

  • CMT Spa Competition
    The Competition model has its active suspension removed for a more pure driving expericence. Equipped with a 5.5 V12 with 367 horsepower.

  • Umakicho Banzai S
    A modest and perfeclty road-going sports car with a 515 horsepower 5.7 V10. From 92-95 you found a turbocharged V6, but now you find a freely breathing monster. Value for money and good drivability although the S comes with RWD instead of AWD and without adaptive dampers as entry-level model in the supercar world.


  • Wagner Ultron
    Take the beast engine from the Banzai and mount it in a space frame car with fiberglass panels. A pure driving machine not intended to go shopping with unlike its tame cousin. No compromise, full experience.



#42

So is there any reason not to make something that’s just a ridiculous super car?