The Car Shopping Round (Round 64): Tears in Heaven

Uuuuuuuu 50th should be something special :smirk: (no pressure EnryGT5)

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Only now had the opportunity to catch up on this. Nice round with brisk reviews, respects for handling 40 entries!

Just, this confuses me:

If you mean the body I used, I don’t think it’s by Barth, but by CaptainD00M from “More Rear Engined Cars”.

Anyway, might as well disclose the stats with another billboard I was making, since there unfortunately hasn’t been much of a review on it:



The developers of this retro-futuristic-but-out-of-place car were having a very optimistic outlook on future fuel price development. As such, Leonardo might’ve been right about the premise of the dealerships being or becoming empty, just few would dare to get this rear engined leisure cruise despite eventually lowered prices, and unfortunately lowered quality due to company austerity measures like lay-offs and cost-cutting. So still possibly appropriate review :+1:
The few that did buy it might see its value rise in future due to its exotic nature, despite its drawbacks, especially in the auto-box that didn’t even receive helical gears anymore, with the “benefit” of it having a faint but distinctive jet-like whine.

Yes, it also just barely fit the engineering time limits and emission limit (We don’t need no darn catalytic crapverter!) despite the brief telling to refrain from min-maxing the budget, but making this thing really enticed me^^

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I thought this was a great round, and I fully understand the reason to bin my entry dies to its inline 3 engine. I only used that engine on the basis of it being a cheaper engine that would be easy to work on for recently graduated people with financial difficulties, but I know know that maybe a smaller yet smoother engine with more cyclinders may have been more desirable. GG @Leonardo9613

I’m really surprised the Gladius managed to satisfy Steve and Debbie’s needs, i figured a 68hp engine in that flashy body would get me a swift one-way trip to the Bin™. I guess those GT stripes really worked. This round was great fun, and allowed us to be quite creative with our designs.

Thanks to @Leonardo9613 for all of his work and effort. Reviewing that huge amount of cars isn’t an easy task.

But, i would like to pass on the hosting of CSR50 to the next available users in order of placement.

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That would be @phale then.

Let’s get started right away then!

CSR ‘50s: Dreamin’ and Cruisin’

I just came back from the 2017 Woodward Dream Cruise and I had so much fun! It’s been a family tradition of mine to travel to the Detroit metro area every August to check out all of the classic, cool, and just plain crazy cars that are on display here. If you’re not sure what the Woodward Dream Cruise is about, check out these albums to get an idea:



What I love about the Woodward Dream Cruise is that it’s just a fantastic celebration of American car culture. A lot of other classic car shows (cough cough pebble beach) are about stuck-up rich snobs showing off their super rare exotic cars that they drive onto a trailer and nowhere else. Woodward is the complete opposite. There’s no rules, no selection committee, no pretentiousness - anyone can show up and bring whatever they want! The cars at other shows might be expensive and exotic, but the cars at Woodward are truly unique, built by regular people who truly love cars. From rusted-out rat rods, to finely preserved luxobarges, to totally off-the-wall custom cars, there’s no shortage of variety and eclectic car culture at Woodward.

For next year, I want to take things up a notch. I want to be a part of this amazing event, and bring my own unique and memorable classic car. I want a car from the decade of the 50s, but I don’t have a huge budget, so I can’t buy some super rare car. Not that I’d want to, anyway. The more common the car was when it was sold (less PU/ET), the more likely I’ll be able to find one to restore. Also, a car that’s more reliable and less rust-prone may make things easier for me. It doesn’t have to be an American car - I’m sure there are some really interesting European or Japanese cars I could restore. Or even from some other parts of the world.

I live about an hour away from where the event will take place, and I could just rent a trailer to haul the car all the way. But, in the spirit of Woodward, wouldn’t it be more fun to drive the car the whole way there? If I want to do that, the car should have reasonable drivability, comfort, safety and fuel economy. And don’t make it too slow either.

But most of all, I want a car that is unique. I’ve already seen so many Mustangs and Chargers that I’m starting to get bored of them. That’s part of why I want to do a 50s car. There’s going to be lots of cool cars there, and I want something that will be memorable, that can stand out, and that might even have a little bit of WTF going on. I can totally appreciate a sexy sports coupe with classic FR proportions. But I’d also like to see something different, not just another American muscle car or European grand tourer. Something maybe a little unconventional, that approaches its goals in unusual ways. On the other hand, it doesn’t have to be full wacko either - a little taste can go a long way. And while crazy beaters might be one of the best parts of Woodward, just keep in mind that I’m potentially going to be spending several hours in this car, including 2 hours round-trip to Woodward and a few more hours cruising on it.

In short, I want a car that is unique, and is actually a good car in spite of - or perhaps because of - its quirks. A “good” car can be a race car, a family car, an offroader, or something totally different, just make it interesting!

Oh and obviously, looks are important. I mean, that’s kind of the point of the Dream Cruise. Also, feel free to include some history about the car and what it’s been doing for the past 60 years! You could even give me some suggestions about how you’d like to see the car restored/modified… in the Woodward tradition, of course :wink:

Rules

  • Kee engine only
  • Car and engine year: 1950-1955
  • Maximum estimated price of $12000 without markup
  • Maximum 80PU/45ET for car
  • Maximum 45PU/45ET for engine
  • No 98RON fuel
  • Barth bodies are not allowed. The ‘More rear engined cars mod’ is allowed.
  • Ad with at least a picture and price required - make it more fun if you want!

Limited production parts are allowed, but may harm your score.
Like with CSR21, I will be paying close attention to the PU/ET, and the original sale price is not as important.

For naming, follow the usual convention:

  • Car: CSR50 - username
  • Trim: Up to you
  • Engine: CSR50 - username
  • Variant: Up to you

Deadline: Tuesday, September 5, at 5PM EST

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Open question to everyone: Should I allow the rear engined cars mod? It would add some more variety (2 cars), but I wouldn’t want it to upset the balance. Barth bodies will still not be allowed.

Added variety is always a welcome prospect. It would get rather boring only using a small set of bodies (unless you can put a good spin on it. IE: Top Gear’s used BMW 3 Series challenge)

I would rather not want to use these mods, and hence prefer that they not be used in this round. Or it might be that I haven’t made enough rear-engined cars, and therefore have had too few opportunities to tune them to my liking.

And it makes perfect sense that there was a sequel of sorts to CSR21, except with 50s cars.

As written, those two clauses contradict. Wouldn’t there being little difference suggest that it would be fine to use them?

It seems like someone’s scared that an RR car will beat them.

Variety is the spice of life, let the creative juices flow my good mans

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I think I broke it…

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Been there, done that😁

Forgive my ignorance, but what is meant by ‘rear engine cars’ mod? Does that just mean those bodies that are copies of built-in cars but with an added rear(/mid) engine option? I don’t see why those would be banned, they aren’t exploitative at all compared to Barth bodies (AFAICT).

Because entering early with a wildcard worked SO well for me last time…

MY55 Bogliq Ghanima

The early days for Bogliq USA were a struggle for market-share against better established competition, as well as getting technical data out of Communist Moldova, where Bogliq’s parent company was (and still is) located. After much cloak and dagger efforts, the Ghanima was put into production for the 1955 marketing year.

You’re looking at a bona-fide Iron curtain escapee in the Ghanima; tight dimensions and spartan interior reflecting the de-emphasis on personal wants over the needs of the group. The Ghanima’s core benefits lie in it’s ability run all day long thanks to a simple engine, light kerb weight and excellent fuel economy. The Ghanima was able to find it’s niche in the inner cities where it’s diminutive frame and hyper-economy provided the optimum blend of delivery vehicle and personal transport, but failed to thrive in the wider (and more open) USA.

Finding a Ghanima today isn’t too hard as they sold for a long time, at a retail price of $6600 driveaway no less, but the biggest problem you’ll find with ownership today is rust, as with any old car, and finding suppliers who stock 10" tyres…

Buy better, buy Bogliq

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1953 Vinson Vehicular Research Pilot Mk1

$10,530 when new. Some parts are still made by Vinson Dynamics to this day.

3.8L v8 making 133hp.

It’s not the worst you could do.

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1955 Macale Madeira

An early adopter of dual overhead camshafts and four-valve cylinder heads, the Madeira was powered by a three-carb 3.0L I6. While the brand had used this engine configuration before, it was their first car with such a complex and potentially unreliable valvetrain. With double A-arm suspension at all four corners and a high-quality interior, it was equally capable of taking corners and cruising down freeways. This level of mechanical sophistication was rare in an era where live axles and SOHC or OHV valvetrains were commonplace.

Although it was offered at a base price of $10600 without markups, its mass-produced nature, thanks to its galvanized steel monocoque structure, made it easier to produce. In addition, many exterior colors were offered, including the deep Piedmont Green shown here. Available as a two-seat coupe (as seen here), a 2+2 hardtop or a soft-top convertible, later examples had disc brakes and power steering as standard. To this day, it has such a devoted following that Macale still makes some replacement parts for the Madeira.

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Riding on the success of the Devillain DR6, the Devillain DR12 was produced with the hope of reaching the more upper-tier market, those who wanted the beautiful sleek lines, but also wanted a more powerful engine and a bigger car overall.

With a base price of $11,100, and a V12 under the hood, it was believed that the car would do well. The purely mechanical nature of the DR6 carried over, with many of the same parts used between both cars, with only very minor exceptions. Perhaps most important, however, was the use of 6 single-barrel eco-carburettors, aiming to give decent fuel efficiency without compromising the engine’s performance. While tuning can - and will - be a nightmare, when all 6 carbs are working perfectly, the highly-balanced 488 cubic inch pushrod V12 will sing for you.

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I want it

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LLA Was founded in 1953 with the goal of creating affordable cars that are fun to drive. In 1954 they released the Bandit 2000.



This beautiful drop-top used a front mounted 2L Iron block engine to create 76 Bhp that drove the rear wheels up to 102 Mph. Also as this engine was a DOHC with 16 valves and dual twin carbs it achieved 20 mpg (us). LLA sold these units for about $8700 with 0% markup making the LLA Bandit an affordable fun car achieving LLA’s goals.


OH Yeah, did I mention it’s British yet has an average reliability factor of 60.5!

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