The Car Shopping Round (Round 64): Tears in Heaven

what is wrong with the spacing i dont get it

0 spacing is for torquey engine that want to go 0-100 in first gear
100 spacing is for less torquey engine that can go 0-40 in first gear

0 - sucks at acceleration and doesnt need to shift gears often
100- good for acceleration but you need to shift gears often

–brakes-- well too much braking is better than fade
-suspension-- idk how to setup that stuff. i looked at sportiness, if it goes higher i add more stiffness or less

@koolkei
@JohnWaldock

basically porsche before they had AWD. the sledgehammer effect

high spacing is good for stop and go acceleration as you get high wheel torque at low speed plus it allows for long overdrive gears for good economy.

low spacing is good for constant acceleration as it allows for the least amount of power loss between gears. The tradeoff is that at a stop you dont have the same wheel torque to get off the line and so your 0-60 time suffers but 0-60 doesn’t matter on track, it’s used more by companies as a way to brag about the car/market the car.

Also for the fuel as this is supposed to be set in the US the regular fuel is considered 91RON.

well we in europe only get BMB 95 or BMB 98

nice to know about the spacing tho

true also you forgot about 100 octane as well

Finalists:
Now we move to the cars that require a finer look. Quite a few came close such as the Neutrino, Noire, Solo Track BM, and Smooth Taco R but all those either had too high of running costs or weren’t as good on track as our finalists. Those finalists are the WMD CBX4 and the Ardent, both use a very similar body but have very different approaches. The CBX4 is a lightweight sports car with GT car looks and performance while the Ardent is a Dirt track racer with AWD.

Pricing wise the Ardent is ahead with the car costing only $18,600 with $228 for tires and 26.3 g/hr of fuel. The CBX4 costs $19,950 with $448 tires and, although it uses less fuel, at 21.3 g/hr, that fuel is more expensive. There are more costs to be considered though with general maintenance and both cars are very similar in that aspect. With the CBX4 needing more car maintenance but less engine maintenance.

Another thing to be considered is safety. Based on the chassis they’re both very similar. Although the Ardent uses a worse chassis it is made of stronger materials. The roll cage in each car is also of equal quality so overall both cars are equally safe.

Track performance is slightly worse for the Ardent on an asphalt track, but that’s to be expected being that t isn’t designed to do well there with a high ride height, high profile tires, and AWD. I do believe that on a dirt track it would be on the same level as the CBX4 is on asphalt. This does bring up the issue of tracks though and which is more popular. It’s certainly easier to get a dirt track started, and so there are generally more of them so with this I’ll have to give the win to Phale with the Ardent. The CBX4 was close but the higher running costs and lower track availability make it harder for people to get into the sport. If I were to choose a 3rd it would probably go to the Neutrino, it is great on track but with very high running costs it isn’t as good as the others.

So, 1st is @Phale 2nd is @abg7 and 3rd goes to @strop

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its always phale or strop

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I’m still astonished that my little FWD city car is that good on the track, basically tailgating @phale 's AWD rally car! :smile: Though, a reasonable detune to optimise octane requirements, economy and reliability to make it more competitive in those areas along with the likely improvement in drivability surely would’ve taken its tribute :sweat_smile:

Congrats, @phale , and applause to @abg7 and @strop and all!

Nono, it is never strop. He’s always around, but never quite getting there.

Also, sorry for missing this one, I was far too busy these last two weeks.

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and i will practice definition of insanity.

keep doing it over and over and over again till i win one day

Congratulations to @phale on yet another hard-earned and well-deserved round win! I came very close to denying him a victory, though.:slight_smile:

But what if I’d detuned the engine to use regular fuel and used 17-inch wheels instead of the 18-inch ones I ultimately ended up using? Would that have made enough of a difference to change the outcome of this round?

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I dunno, if I had reduced the width of my tyres, I reckon I could have won :stuck_out_tongue:

seriously though fuck me sideways, eternal bridesmaid over here :joy:

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Wow! I’m surprised that my shot-in-the-dark approach worked so well! I guess I’ll have to thank Dirt 3 for this victory :smile:

I’d like to offer @abg7 the opportunity to host the next challenge if he so desires; otherwise, I’ll be happy to take the duties myself.

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Uhhhh spoon me?

I’ve also been like decaprio. Always nominated but rarely awarded.
:joy:

Gg phale and abg7

I call big spoon!

edit: well, @abg7, looks like you’re the next host unless you want to pass too! though I would rather you not haha

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Congrats to Plale on another win and strop for a close 3rd.
Also congrats to ABG7 looking forward to what you come up with

I am away from home right now, and will need some time to think about possible ideas for the next round along with its rule set. However, I will not pass on hosting duties to another user unless I somehow cannot determine a suitable rule set soon enough.

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we’ll wait until tomorrow.

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I am honored to take the reins for hosting CSR26, but since I don’t own a car yet, I have had to invent a fictional scenario specifically for this round. So, here it goes:

CSR26 - Search for a Supercar

It’s 2017 and I have finally managed to save up enough money to buy my dream car. I want something which shows that I’ve made it, yet will last long enough for me to enjoy it to the full (and will provide its next owner with peace of mind if I have to sell it). My requirements are thus as follows:

  • A post-markup estimated price of $180,000 including a 50% markup. As such, a high degree of quality for the car is recommended. Also, trim and engine variant years must both be set to 2017.

  • The car must be RWD or AWD - I don’t want a 4x4 or FWD car - and its suspension must not bottom out. It needs to have a modicum of everyday usability, even though I don’t actually have to drive it every day (although its next owner might).

  • The level of engine cooling must be at least equal to the required amount, with minimum engine and average reliability values of at least 70, thereby ensuring that the car will be a more viable long-term proposition.

  • Two seats are required - no more, no less, since I already have a car with at least four seats. Also, no trucks or SUVs are permitted.

  • I value my life (and that of my passenger, whenever I ask one to ride in my new purchase) quite highly; as such advanced 10s safety (with no negative quality) is required.

  • For usability’s sake, semi-slick tires are not permitted.

  • The top speed must be at least 200 mph (321.9 km/h) - I have never owned a car with that much performance before, and this is my first chance to do so.

  • 95 RON premium unleaded or 98 RON super unleaded fuel required - I prefer premium the most but can live with the reduced availability and increased cost of super unleaded.

  • A catalytic converter is required, and since I don’t want to deafen nearby people when I drive the car, loudness must be 50 or lower. However, the use of a race intake or exhaust is not allowed, since the engine has to be street legal.

  • Maximum fuel consumption is 13.07 L/100km (18 US mpg) - I may be looking for a supercar but I don’t want running costs to go through the roof.

  • Prestige, styling and sportiness are the most important criteria of all, while drivability and comfort are moderately important. Not only do I want to enjoy driving to the full and elicit a positive impression from passersby, I don’t want to emerge from the car looking worn out. I will still accept entries which use a sport interior, though.

  • I will also evaluate the cars’ lap times on the Automation Test Track from a standing start.

  • Due to unforeseen technical issues, I cannot use the Prowler, Yamaneko or Straal bodies from @Razyx or the 10s full-size car from @Corvette6317 (none of these mods show up in my game), so please do not use those. Other coupe bodies from the last 20 years are fair game for this round, however, as long as they can be fitted with exactly two seats.

  • The deadline is 11:59 pm, GMT+7, 25th of November 2016.

  • Entries must be named as follows:

Car model: CSR26 - username
Car trim: any
Engine family: CSR26 - username
Engine variant: any

Good luck to anyone who enters!

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So, which would you prefer, convertible or coupe?