The Car Shopping Round (Round 64): Tears in Heaven

Asdren, that one is beautiful man, really nice work!

Thanks :slight_smile:, really enjoyed your and the other talks :slight_smile:

Are points deducted for obnoxious posts? cough Puffster cough Because dear god, I was going to read that but had to stop before I made myself sick. :laughing:

Also, Iā€™m still having fuel economy problems. I made the engine as lean as I could run it, but only got a couple extra MPG out of it. I mean the fact it weighs as much as a house, uses a 6.0 L V8 and has AWD probably doesnā€™t help, but still, I should be able to get better figures than I am. Tips? I tried the extra gear, that didnā€™t help much. Iā€™m really rather stuck.

Cheers - Racer13

Wellā€¦ Thatā€™s certainly braveā€¦ Have you tried converting the extra gear into overdrive? Different spacing also helps. So play around with that as well.

Other than that, you can mess around with tires, aero packages, and Aero quality.

Also, my car might be the quickest. 0-60 in 4.2 seconds and it does it with an engine thatā€™s less than 2 Liters.

Bigger is better, right? :laughing:

Note: I should probably emphasise, Iā€™m Australian. Itā€™s not the back alleys of Rome by a long stretch, but our cars are on average probably 2/3rds the size of US cars, or less. And thereā€™s a reason why Holden and Ford couldnā€™t hang around: their main market here was large sedans and we just donā€™t have that kind of taste anymore.

The large sedans/wagons here appeal strongly to my utility side, but have their own disadvantages.

RIP V8 Super cars

Anyway I have a question, do you mind me waiting till the last hour to sell my car to you or even better can I sell it in a private pm and reveal pics on the last day?

Sadly, thereā€™s a strong lack of small modern sedans or Iā€™d probably have gone with one of those, but thereā€™s a strong lack of small modern sedans, or modern hatchbacks in 5 door configuration.

Now, if by chance you want us to make a second car, I can certainly do that, but the current field of vehicles leaves me wondering exactly what Iā€™d want to build.

[quote=ā€œMadriasā€]Sadly, thereā€™s a strong lack of small modern sedans or Iā€™d probably have gone with one of those, but thereā€™s a strong lack of small modern sedans, or modern hatchbacks in 5 door configuration.

Now, if by chance you want us to make a second car, I can certainly do that, but the current field of vehicles leaves me wondering exactly what Iā€™d want to build.[/quote]

Might I recommend the tiny modern SUV Iā€™m making? Iā€™m sure itā€™ll be great on gas :laughing: (I still donā€™t know why itā€™s so small)

[quote=ā€œthecarloverā€]

[quote=ā€œMadriasā€]Sadly, thereā€™s a strong lack of small modern sedans or Iā€™d probably have gone with one of those, but thereā€™s a strong lack of small modern sedans, or modern hatchbacks in 5 door configuration.

Now, if by chance you want us to make a second car, I can certainly do that, but the current field of vehicles leaves me wondering exactly what Iā€™d want to build.[/quote]

Might I recommend the tiny modern SUV Iā€™m making? Iā€™m sure itā€™ll be great on gas :laughing: (I still donā€™t know why itā€™s so small)[/quote]

Probably would go like a rat with its tail on fire with a 393cc 4 cylinder engine. Would at least be amusing.

[quote=ā€œstropā€]Note: I should probably emphasise, Iā€™m Australian. Itā€™s not the back alleys of Rome by a long stretch, but our cars are on average probably 2/3rds the size of US cars, or less. And thereā€™s a reason why Holden and Ford couldnā€™t hang around: their main market here was large sedans and we just donā€™t have that kind of taste anymore.

The large sedans/wagons here appeal strongly to my utility side, but have their own disadvantages.[/quote]

Now he tells us.

I probably should have said this in the post but since I included my back story, I thought people might have remembered that! With the initial entries I thought we were doing fine but when insaw 6L V8 I started having doubts :laughing:

While not a specific criteria, 6L v8 is fine if the fuel economy is good, but do think carefully about the tradeoffs! (Of which weighing as much as a bus is one). The 1500kg or so dry weights Iā€™m seeing are fine, though.

I remembered you were Australian, I just didnā€™t know that you guys had moved to littler cars. Didnā€™t know the specifics behind the motor companies ditching the market.

As for my design, Iā€™m comfortable with it, though a little worried that I didnā€™t build small enough.

People are glossing over how I explained about how much space my car hasā€¦

Either it doesnā€™t matter, or no-oneā€™s noticedā€¦

:sunglasses:

Oh, I noticed. I got a good smile out of it.

Iā€™m withholding specific comments until after the deadline passes. Trust me, youā€™ll get a good story out of all of it.

Agreed, and Iā€™ll keep this in mind when doing the judging. Though there are a few body types in here that Iā€™m wondering why nobodyā€™s gone for just yet. Time will tell.

[size=150]2015 Daiki Ayase Sport: A Wagon for Parents Who Wants a Sports Car But Canā€™t Buy Them[/size]




The 2015 Daiki Ayase went through a large-scale remodelling for its fourth generation, made into a more premium cruiser for families who donā€™t exactly need a minivan but do need some carrying capacity. The Carrier trim focuses on being a comfortable station wagon, while the Sport trim focuses on being a sporty station wagon with some comfort. The car is driven by itā€™s front wheels, for easier driving (just like the Carrier trim), with Double Wishbone suspension in front and Multilink suspension in back. The car is built to be very reliable just like most Daiki cars, and uses less fuel than most sports cars.

More info coming soon ā„¢!

Post redacted due to my forgetfulness!

((For the sake of this event thing itā€™s important to remember that while Iā€™m still learning the ropes of the car builder, and am relatively new to the community, that HP Craftworks has been around for 51 years now, and started producing consumer-ready cars (not kit cars) with a relatively high degree of success since the 1980ā€™s, therefore itā€™s a reliable brand and wonā€™t be falling out of business any time soon.))

[size=150]HP Craftworks Presents the Series 6 Wagon[/size]

[size=125]Style[/size]

In 2015 HP Craftworks began rebuilding and redesigning itā€™s line of consumer-ready cars, as well as introducing some new cars. Among this re imagined lineup was the Series 6, which along with a sedan now sported a wagon which offered even more utility than before. The new image of the Series 6 made for a more modern, sleek, and relatively understated design, while losing none of the flair or quality customers had grown accustomed to in HPC vehicles.

[size=125]Performance[/size]

This model shown here is equipped with the Sport Package, which features premium, alloy wheels wrapped in 225 millimeters of sport compound rubber to hold the road with a death grip at all four corners, and a sportier, active suspension with seven different settings to adjust the ride from the entertainment system in the car, so the car can be tighter than that bolt you can never get out when you want it, and then calm down and relax like a monk on Sundays when you need it. But if itā€™s raw performance you are looking for, look no further. The Sport Package is more than just some wheels and suspension tweaks, itā€™s an experience, that once you try one time, youā€™ll never be able to stop. The Series 6 Sport Package offers up one of the most sophisticated drivelines HP Craftworks has to offer. With a savage six liter V8, always on, HPC designed and race proven active and adaptive all wheel drive and limited slip differential, the seven speed flappy paddle gearbox will move you, your mother-in-law, and her entire apartment up to 62 miles per hour in only 4.1 seconds, fast enough to blow away many sports cars. That is of course assuming her spine hasnā€™t come out from the acceleration. Oh yeah, and thatā€™s with the engine in Eco Mode. We canā€™t provide details on what happens when the car is switched into Sport Mode because our test drivers are scared of what might happen.

[size=125]Utility[/size]

But we also realize you donā€™t buy a wagon unless you intend to use it to move stuff, which is why we gave you enough space to help your girlfriend move out when she finds out that you got a new car instead of that engagement ring. Be warned though, you will find hair pins in the car many years after that move, we are not responsible for that. With the back seats up this little number will comfortably seat four with plenty of leg room and head room all around, so at least your mother-in-law wonā€™t complain about that after you pick her up from the airport, there is still plenty of space in the back for all 12 of her suit cases, because yes, she is staying for three weeks, and thereā€™s nothing you can do about it. But ā€˜Ooohā€™ I hear you cry, ā€˜I still need more space!ā€™. Fear not my friend, those back seats will fold completely flat, allowing you to throw in four sets of skiā€™s, a tent, a mountain bike, that water chair you never used, three hiking back packs and a full size grill with rotisserie action so you can have the craziest adventure you never knew was possible. And when we say completely flat, we mean, completely flat, not just sort of flat like a lot of our competitors will try to sell you.

[size=125]Comfort[/size]

With all of this functionality you would think when it came to the interior of the car it would be an after thought, because surely this car is already out of your budget, but youā€™d be wrong. We at HPC donā€™t believe in cutting corners, and are willing to make sacrifices to ensure we are providing the best product we can to our customers, which is why when it came to the interior we gave it the same kind of care and attention that we gave the rest of the car. With quality leather, wood, and milled metal materials, the inside of the Series 6 is a symphony of class and sophistication that simply isnā€™t found in cars with a similar price tag, putting the Series 6 in a class of itā€™s own. With a modern, timeless styling and some of the most comfortable, body hugging seats made of memory foam wrapped in hand stitched leather weā€™ve ever sat in, and electronic seat controls for position, reclining, lumbar, headrest and leg support, you might never want to get out. So go ahead, click that gearbox down into auto mode, switch the engine to Eco Mode and move the suspension into Comfort and sit back as the car does the work for you, making this car perfect for long road trips.

[size=125]Sophistication[/size]

Of course, no road trip is complete without some nice tunes to rock out to, which is why we partnered with harmon/kardon to create a 10-speaker audio setup that would probably be more at home in a home theater than a car, hooked up to a AM/FM/Satellite radio, 8 disc CD changer, and AUX/USB jack for MP3 players, plus a media slot for a Micro SD card located in the passenger glove box. Alongside that is a built-in touch screen entertainment center with GPS that can control almost any aspect of the car, including the seven-zone climate controls and features wireless bluetooth hands-free connectivity to any smartphone on the market, with voice controls and call controls on the steering wheel. But donā€™t think the driver is the only one that gets to have fun. Each of the back seats get individual climate controls as well as a T.V. entertainment system built into the back of the driver and passenger headrests. And with full-window sun shades, the back seat passengers can enjoy some privacy, or relax and take a comfortable nap. With so many luxuries, you may end up wanting to spend more time in the back seats than driving, which is a shame, because itā€™s a really fun car to drive.

[size=125]Affordable[/size]

By this point you are probably thinking well this all good and everything, but there is no way all of this luxury, performance and sophistication can fit into my budget, Iā€™m not rich or anything. Lucky for you my friend, all this car only comes at a price of $32,640. At that price we are practically handing you the keys the moment it leaves the factory floor. All you have to do is sign on the dotted line and you are on your way to the best all around automotive experience you have ever had. Cars will never be the same again.

HP Craftworks, *a different car company.*ā„¢

Are you doing this to us just to mess with us, or are you really making these kind of decisions after we have built and submitted our cars?