REPRINT FROM #5 1975
REVIEW OF CEDER 515 TS
PRACTICAL PIONEER
The Ceder 515 is a good example of a modern generation of executive cars, where intelligent design is more important than chrome and wood veneer.
The french automaker Ceder have released a new generation of cars lately, that is following a formula that we predict will be the leading one in the future. Hatchback bodies, front wheel drive, and relatively compact outer dimensions on a long wheelbase. Like it or not, it is a type of car that is here to stay, and more automakers are probably to follow very soon.
The top model is the 515 TS, which we have decided to take a closer look on. In a class where most cars still are very conservatively built, it is an interesting challenger indeed.
DRIVING CHARACTERISTICS
The car has a longitudinal engine, but for that configuration it is not overly front heavy. There is 4 wheel independent suspension. Not the worst base for building a car with good handling. But the suspension has a quite soft setup, aiming for a comfortable ride in a typical french fashion. The handling is secure and predictable, but far from inspiring and a corner carver is something this car is not. It starts to understeer relatively early and there is a fair amount of body roll. To sum it up, this car is meant for comfortable highway cruising - and it is warning you in good time if you pretend that it is something else.
Power steering is standard, which is a good thing considering the weight over the front axle in a longitudinal FWD car (even if the 515 is far from the worst example here), and we were satisfied with the function of it. Steering was light, it gave adequate feedback from the road and we never experienced that it wouldn’t cope with fast steering input. But the powerful engine means that there is more torque steer and wheelspin that we would like.
The brakes are good. 4 wheel disc brakes that stops the car in 43.7 metres from 100, pulling straight and no alarming amounts of fading.
VERDICT: ***
PERFORMANCE
A 132 hp V6 gives the car good performance. 0-100 is done in only 9.55 seconds, there is a 193 km/h top speed and a quartermile time of 16.99 seconds. 80-120 is done in 6.36 seconds, making passing of other cars relatively easy. The car feels - and is - quick, no question about it.
VERDICT: ****
COMFORT
The suspension is soft and copes well with bumps, without making you sea-sick. The seats are also soft in a typical french fashion but gives your back surprisingly good support. Sound insulation is extensive, but that is needed too. Being a 90 degree V6, the engine is harsh and far from smooth, also the exhaust note is not really the most quiet.
As we said earlier, there is power steering, making the steering relatively light, the same goes for the power brakes.
VERDICT: ****
ROOMINESS
Despite a relatively short length of 447 cm, the car is built on a long wheelbase of 269 cm, and it shows on the inside. The car is roomier than many large competitors, especially the RWD ones. Seating comfort for 5 is not completely out of the question. Having a hatchback makes it practical and if you use the folding rear seat it will take lots of cargo. But even with the rear seats in place, it will take 767 litres of luggage, and that is far from a bad number.
VERDICT: ****
EQUIPMENT
The Ceder 515 is from a new school of executive cars where chrome and wood have largely been replaced by plastics. Instead, you get sensible equipment like a tachometer, clock, nice and comfortable velour upholstery, flowthrough ventilation, remote control mirrors, rear dome light as well as lights under the bonnet and in the luggage compartment, power steering and central locking. And especially for its moderate price, we think that this is a well appointed car. It does feature well thought out things that will satisfy you in the long run, instead of stuff that will impress bystanders at first sight.
Also included is an advanced 8-track player with stereo sound and self seeking radio, that had a deep and rich sound.
VERDICT: ****
ENGINE AND DRIVETRAIN
The all aluminum SOHC V6 might look modern on paper, but being a 90 degree V6 it has vibrations that does not really belong in an otherwise so comfortable car like this, and an exhaust note that is not really quiet. But it has a wide power band and 132 hp at its power peak, so the resources are always there. An interesting detail is its 2-stage dual carburetor setup, that is said to improve fuel economy on low loads, though a theoretical thought that we could not really notice in real world conditions.
The gearbox is a 4 speed manual with relatively wide spaced ratios. Not the dream gearbox for a race car driver, but we found nothing negative in its function, operation is easy.
VERDICT: ***
QUALITY
To some extent, the car gives a feeling of quality - but unfortunately only a feeling. Ceder has far from excellent reliability records, fact is among the worst on the market and nothing says that the 515 should be an exception. Also, rust protection is far from excellent. Expect rot in just some years if you don’t give it an extra treatment in time.
VERDICT: *
ECONOMY
The engine is not really sparse on gas at 13.2 litres per 100 km - and requires expensive premium grade fuel. The service costs are higher than on most conventional cars, but still far from a disaster at $764.80. The price is not bloody though - for the amount of car you get, $18600 AMU is a competitive figure. But count with a low resale value though.
VERDICT: ***
SAFETY
The experiments from the ESV era is starting to pay off in regular cars now. The Ceder features headrests and inertia reel seatbelts on the outer positions, energy absorbing steering column and wheel, a strong body with side impact bars and crumple zones front and rear, a safe placement of the fuel tank, halogen headlights and bumpers that will withstand low speed collisions. Also, the relatively large interior space means that there is a good amount of distance to hard surfaces that can be struck by the occupants in an accident. Considering that it is light and has compact outer dimensions for its class, the safety record is probably quite good.
VERDICT: ****
Practical: Rear hatch that is hiding a large cargo compartment.
FINAL VERDICT: 30/45
The Ceder 515 is far from flawless, especially the predicted reliability record is alarming. However, it is generally a well thought out car, that probably will show some other manufacturers the way. If you value comfort, technology and practicality, and has the economy to trade up with small intervals, before warranties expire and before too much value is lost, the Ceder 515 is probably great value and one of the most obvious choices for you.
Still, we don’t expect this to be more than a player in the margins on the swedish market, and it is absolutely not the right choice for everyone. But if you are willing to live with its flaws and take a chance with the reliability, it is a car that is easy to enjoy, and that will grow on you for every kilometer of driving.
(Thanks to @Mythrin for the car!)