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What If? - A Community Thread


#1

Welcome to the "What if?" thread!

This is a community driven thread for “What if?” scenarios.
There are three preset questions you can pick to make your own cars about.
What if blank made a car? (blank can be any personality or company)
What if blank came back and made cars again? (blank can be any defunct company or company in “limbo” (i.e Lancia))
What if the blank existed in year ? (blank can be any car model and year can be any year from 1946 to 2020)

You actually don’t have to use the presets, you can also make your own What If questions.

Have fun making your creations!


Example questions

What if Apple made a car?
What if Lancia came back and made cars again?
What if the Ford Crown Victoria existed in 2020?


#2

haha first reply losers

Here’s my own What If scenario:
What If Honda made the Prelude RWD?
An age old question right there, and here it is.

anyway here’s how shit actually ended up. some of you might recognise this creation of mine from somewhere else cough cough CSR

Not much difference, other than the fact that its 2.2L F-series Inline-4 non-VTEC motor has been turned the other way and the rear motors are now driven instead of the front.
Straightline speed is… eh, but I’d imagine handling to be pretty decent, considering its near 50/50 weight distribution.
Its 2am i can’t type bye

no you’re not getting a look at the rear, that’s some cursed territory


#3

Oooh, that’s a neat idea, but I wonder it will actually work well or not.

Anyways, I may find time to send an entry here, I only just need an idea for myself.


#4

I have a few:

What if Toyota had bought Jeep when AMC went under instead of Chrysler?

What if Hummer hadn’t lost sales due to being politically incorrect in the early 2000s?

What if the Oldsmobile diesel engine was good?

What if the K-car hadn’t made FWD normal, and expected?

What if the “big three” were from different states instead of all based in MI?

This could be a fun thought exercise.


#5

Here’s a few of mine:

What if, ten years ago, Lotus decided to resurrect the Esprit instead of abandoning it?

What if, in 2013, Jaguar chose to put the C-X75 into production - but with a non-hybrid powertrain, preferably their supercharged V8, and a manual gearbox?

What if Chrysler’s 2004 300C had flopped in the marketplace?

What if the SN197 Ford Mustang had been given an independent rear suspension across the entire range?

I have many more, but I’ll start off with these four.


#6

Those questions are very interesting but I don’t think you two understood what this thread is. This thread is about sharing cars based on “What if” questions / scenarios like what @variationofvariables did on their reply.


#8

Read the reply above please. This is not a thread just to post “What if” questions, you have to put a car with the “What if” scenario.

Oh and by the way, something’s coming.


#9

what if the emissions regulations in the early 70’s never happened?
what would modern cars be like if turbos and fuel injection didnt exist?
what would cars be like in the eastern bloc if the Soviet union still existed?


#10

So yeah, here’s an actual car.
This is sort of a double question kinda car.

What if the Lancia Delta Integrale Evoluzione existed in 2020?

What if Lancia updated their design language?

2020 Lancia Delta Integrale Evoluzione

This is how you use this thread.


#11

Let’s answer a question nobody asked:

What if Microsoft is an automaker?

What if Windows XP is a car?

2001 Microsoft Windows XP Professional


#12

What if Japan made a full-size pickup truck for the American Market in the 70s?

The answer: 1978 Seikatsu 25K Type XLR MegaDrive with a 7.0L V8. I can count the MPG with one hand.

(if you’re on the discord, this is probably the hundredth time you’ve seen this :stuck_out_tongue: )


#13

2006 AMC Hornet

An American style affordable compact hatchback with all weather capability and muscle-car like performance. Although it uses the Hornet name seeing as it’s the AMC product with the least stigma attached to it, it’s also close in spirit to the Eagle with its AWD drivetrain, and its shape is suppose to evoke fond memories, very fond memories of the Gremlin and Pacer.

LX

Details

The chassis is a modern one with double wishbone front suspension and semi trailing arm rear, with steel monocoque construction.

The engine is a continuation of AMC’s long history of large straight sixes being used across their lineup, even in their smallest offerings. The newest Slant Six displaces 4.5 liters, more than the 4.2 in the American market models but less the whopping 4.6 liters in the Mexican market models. It uses a SOHC 12 valve layout with VVL and has a cast iron crank, lightweight forged conrods, and forged pistons. Compression is 9.0:1 and the fuel system is multi-point electronic fuel injection. Power output is 202 hp.

Even the base LX model comes standard with AWD with a viscous limited slip differential. The base transmission is a 5 speed manual with a 3.74 rear end. A 4 speed automatic is optional. Tires are hard long life compound with P185/60R16 specs all around and steel wheels. The brakes are solid 4 piston 9 inchers in the front and 11 inch drums in the rear.

The car features a standard interior with a basic CD player, non-variable electric power steering, basic 90’s interior, standard springs, twin tube dampers, and passive sway bars. Fuel economy is 25.9 mpg combined, or an EPA estimated 22 city and 30 highway.

MSRP is $19700.

AMX

Details

The AMX is the sporty version intended to compete against both the Ford Mustang due to its rather muscle car vibes for a hatchback, as well as against import sports compacts like the Subaru WRX STi, the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, and the Volkswagen R32.

The engine in the AMX retains the same internals as the base model, but it gains a turbocharger with 14.2 PSI of boost. Compression is thereby reduced to 8.0:1. Improvements are made in the way of the exhaust, with a high flow catalytic converter, bypass valves,and straight through mufflers. Output is 322 hp@5100 RPM and 396 lb ft@4100 RPM, This is enough to propel the Hornet AMX from 0-60 in a mere 5.0 seconds and to a top speed of 164 mph.

The Hornet AMX gains a 6 speed manual with 2.88:1 rear end, and a 5 speed sequential transmission is optional. The tires on the AMX are medium compound with P22550R17 specs and standard alloy wheels. Brakes are vented 14 inchers, 4 piston front and 2 piston rear.

The AMX offers an active wing, a standard CD player, variable hydraulic power steering, electronic stability control, standard 2000’s safety, and a progressive suspension with adaptive dampers and semi-active sway bars. Gas mileage is 19.7 mpg combined, or an EPA rated 17 city and 22 highway.

MSRP is $28200.


#14

What if I applied one of the most challenging design languages I’ve ever had to an economy car?

Original design

moar diablo pics


It even has a compact sedan variant!


#15

What if Proton Wira Estate made into production?

Based on the abandoned project from Proton

image


What if there is luxury SUV market back in the 70's?

A really old build from back in the days.


#16

What if Honda/Acura re-introduced for Integra for 2020?

Upon Closer Inspection




Tried to replicate the Honda 2.0 Turbo as spec’ed in the Accord.
Acura_Integra_-_Type_S.car (42.4 KB)


#17

What if Chrysler of Europe had created a Chrysler Neon WRC?

Some real life background first. In 1996, Chrysler of Europe was officially re-established with the intention of selling more models in Europe following the relative success of the Jeep Grand Cherokee and Chrysler Voyager. One of the first models brought to the continent was the Chrysler Neon.

At the same time, the Chrysler Viper GTS-R was winning races in various European racing series, helping to increase awareness of the Chrysler brand name.

Then, in 1997, the FIA produced a new ruleset for the World Rally Championship. This did away with the Group A regulations, and, in a bid to interest more manufacturers, allowed considerably more modification from the production homologation model. In the years following the creation of the new rules, WRC versions of standard cars appeared quickly, including the Toyota Corolla, Ford Focus, SEAT Cordoba, Peugeot 206, and Skoda Octavia, all vehicles that did not offer AWD, turbocharged street models.

So, with that in mind, what if Chrysler decided to promote the Neon through motorsport, in the form of a World Rally Car?

The car was first shown in late 1997 with the expectation of entering the WRC in the 1998 season.

The engine used was a turbocharged version of the Chrysler 4 cylinder, combining elements of the 2.0 ECC and 2.4 turbo EDZ engines. The production model’s McPherson Strut/Multilink supension layout was maintained, but mounting points were modified. Aesthetic changes included wider fender flares, a large rear wing, and additional vents and grilles for cooling. In addition to improving cooling, the front fascia was designed to emulate that of the Chysler VIper GTS-R, as were the paint schemes on the first publicly shown cars.

With a longer wheelbase than any other WRC cars at the time (albeit an overall length equal to the concurrent Subaru Impreza) the Neon would have likely been more at home on high speed events than tight, technical ones. While it is impossible to speculate much on the effectiveness of the Chrysler Neon WRC, it is pretty easy to assume that with the creation of DaimlerChrysler in 1998, this car would have been fairly short lived, as Mercedes-Benz would have been quick to cut off any funding to this project. But in the spirit of the what-if nature of this post, if Mercedes had decided the project was worth it, their resources and engineering would have given the Neon WRC a better chance at success.


#18

What if Simca made cars today?

2020 Simca 1400S Rallye Premium


#19

everybody gangsta till reizei double posts

What if Burnout Paradise cars were redesigned?

For your information, you can answer the same question as me, no problems.

2015 Hunter Cavalry GT

2020 Nakamura Ikusa GT

I’ll definitely make more of these in the future.


#20

What if the hypercar existed in the 70s?

1976 R1 Hyper Concept

(well, it’s having a turbocharged V12 generating more horsepower than even some modern supercars (920 hp), but yeah, tbh the car is kinda into the CNC-level territory rn)


#21

What if the Italians made a classic muscle car?

Details

Not gonna get too much into the lore but it’s essentially the opposite of Ford vs. Ferrari, where in the late 60’s, legendary Italian automaker Vespucci-Pellegrini gets butthurt about those dumb Americans beating them at the LeMans. So they take their revenge by deciding to beat the Americans at their own game and produce a muscle car that in their opinion outmatched anything Detroit had to offer. They opened a factory in New Jersey and mass produce a cheapened down version of their Napoli grand tourer.

The powerplant was a 5.0 liter flat plane DOHC V8 with 8.5:1 compression, forged conrods and pistons, 3x2 carbs, short cast headers, and baffled mufflers. Output was 336 hp@5900 RPM and 305 lb ft@5500 RPM. This was paired to a 4 speed manual transmission with an automatic locking differential. The car used sports compound P235/55R14 tires with alloy wheels, solid 2 piston discs up front and drums in the rear, 11 inches all around, and a progressive suspension with gas mono tube dampers. The car featured a premium interior, premium AM radio, advanced 60’s safety, and hydraulic power steering

Unfortunately, at $24300, the car was out of the reach of most muscle car buyers and thus was not a success in the market. But it served as a reminder never to underestimate the power of angry rich Italians.

Vespucci-Pellegrini_Napoli__70_-Carrozzeria_Monza.car (31.6 KB)
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