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What if...

Top secret made another V12 Supra today?

Who is Top Secret, and why did they shove a V12 into a Supra?

Top Secret Co., Ltd. is a Japanese automobile tuner and parts manufacturer. The company was founded by Japanese automotive engineer and driver, Kazuhiko “Smokey” Nagata.

Smokey used to work in Trust, another well-known tuner. Eventually he left the company to create his own tuning shop: Top Secret

On one hand, Top Secret participates in motorsports such as D1GP drift championship, time attack and many others, but what they are most known for, are top speed runs.

Smokey himself participates in illegal public road high speed runs, Overseas, he infamously reached 317 km/h on British public roads, before being arrested and jailed for the night.

In 2007, he built the TS8012V Supra. The goal of the build is to go to the Nardo Test Track and break 400km/h. Top Secret being Top Secret, instead of keeping the 2JZ engine, they sourced a 1GZ-FE V12 5.0 engine from a Toyota Century. Fitted with many custom one-off parts and a pair of turbos, it now makes about 950 horsepower

The engine fills up the original engine bay completely, they have to reposition the radiators to the back of the car, similar to many drift cars today.

During the speed run at Nardo, due to overheating issues, the car “only” managed 358 km/h

Thoughts behind this build
This imaginary 2020 remake of this car is obviously, based on the new A90 supra

Because of the much smaller chassis compared to the A80 Supra, they have to manufacture a custom front subframe and custom bodywork in order to accommodate the massive V12 engine at least that’s my excuse of using the FT1 body

Since the new Toyota Century switches to a V8 Hybrid powertrain, the new engine is still 1GZ-FE based

Like the original V12 Supra, the radiator has to be repositioned to the rear. An intake duct is used to draw air from above the roof into the trunk-mounted rad.

The design uses custom headlights that differs from the base car, similar to the original “Final Evolution” A80 body kit with its vertical shaped projectors

I tried.


Aww he brought his friend with him!

Both cars by yours truly, the local Supra simper


What if

GT-R shoting br ak


What if…

The Saturn Sky was a 90s sports convertible?

Although Saturn faced imminent demise in the recession of the late 2000s, they still found themselves a decent amount of success in the 90s. This (doesn’t really, but I think it) begs the question: what if the Sky was produced in the 90s to compete against the Miata and 240SX?

Welcome to the 1995 Saturn SKR. Conceived using a new longitudinal space frame platform derived from the S-Series and L-Series Saturns, the new front-engine, rear-wheel drive layout gives it a more traditional sportscar driving style. Propelling the car forward was GM’s 2.3 Liter “Quad 4” DOHC I4, with 180 horsepower being sent through a 5-speed manual and a viscous LSD. The “polymer” panels (fiberglass - who remembers when polymer was actually an option?) keeps weight low, and 0-60 could be done in under 8 seconds with an aggressive launch on the right surface. It’s probably okay to drive, although I didn’t really tune it that much. A long wheelbase and stubby proportions aren’t quite as sporty as the contemporary Sky and allows for a +2 rear seat arrangement.

Upon Closer Inspection

Saturn_SKR_-_SKR.car (57.1 KB)


Interesting idea, but in all likelihood it would have used Saturn’s own DOHC 1.9L. GM had a really different outlook for the Saturn brand during the 90’s and insisted that it didn’t share any of the mechanicals with the rest of GM’s lineup.


What if…

The Polestar 1 was conceived as a Y2K sports GT?

Volvo’s current racing division, Cyan Racing, traces its roots back to Polestar and Flash Racing, which began in 1996. Although Polestar Performance was spun off into its own electric-performance brand and Cyan Racing became the racing handle of Volvo and Lynk & Co, I envisioned what the Polestar 1 could have been, given that it was a fully-fledged Volvo product.

The rebrand would be the first thing to attack - introducing the 1998 Volvo R90. The design is heavily influenced by the 2001 S60 and 1996 C70, acting as a bridge between the two cars whilst also exaggerating the major design features that both cars exhibit. A slim front end and boxy proportions give the R90 a distinctly Swedish flair. Wide rear haunches provide an ideal base for the now-iconic 2000s Volvo taillight design. Under the revolutionary partial-carbon body is the Volvo P2 platform, debuting alongside the S80 sedan to show off the adaptability of the chassis. Powering this nearly 1500-kg piece of machinery is a 3.0 liter turbocharged inline-6 engine, boosted to produce over 400 horsepower and allowing for a 0-62 time of just over 4 seconds with a 6 speed manual transmission. The long wheelbase and slightly rear-biased AWD system gives the R90 an athletic grand touring driving experience, with stability at all speeds.

Upon Closer Inspection

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Hi bud, I’m glad you’re enjoying the thread! It’s true that the theme of this is “What If,” but there’s a catch; the hypothetical car in question should be a product of an IRL company. The original post mentions Apple, Lancia, and Ford as potential companies, and if you look through this thread, these vehicles are all from IRL car companies or literally based off existing car models; for example, a 90s Polestar, a sedan NSX, or a modern V12 Top Secret Supra. That’s the expectation for this forum, pal.

Your vehicle, on the other hand, looks like it’s entirely a product of your imagination and not based off any currently existing car or company. Thus, it’s better suited for a different thread; maybe you can make your own under “Sharing” and post it there? Thank you, partner!


hey it’s all good we all make mistakes, we’re all human


What if, Bugatti EB110 GT/SS But 1960s?

Presenting the not good 1961 Bugatti EB110 ST

I tried :slight_smile:

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What if...

The Soviets made a muscle car?...


The ZAvZ 3155 “Clara” is a sports car manufactured by the Zlatoustovsky Avtomobilny Zavod starting in 1968.

The car was developed alongside the GAZ-24, with slight differences in chassis and suspension design to account for sportier driving.

Powered by the same 5.5-litre OHV V8 in the GAZ-13 Chaika, it produced a blistering 220 gross horsepower (195 net), and could hit 100kph in under 10 seconds.

Staying true to the “muscle car philosophy”, not much is made for its handling ability, it was simply made to excel in one thing; go fast in a straight line.

The car’s styling was inspired by western designs such as the Dodge Coronet and Ford Mustang, with flared fenders, an aggressive front end, and other little design aspects to give the car a “muscular” look.

More images

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no detailed interior in this car this isn't a Sendo


Phones as Cars #2 - Samsung Galaxy Note7 (2016)

because why the fuck not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Previous Post: Google Pixel 4 XL (2019)

The Galaxy Note series is a series of high-end luxury GTs created by Samsung*, a Korean automobile firm. Despite being equipped with high-end hardware like its Galaxy S series counterparts, the Note series of vehicles are always 2 door GTs as opposed to the 4 seater sedans of the S series. Often, the Note series are above the S models in model hierarchy.

* Samsung actually has an automobile making firm IRL, i.e. Renault Samsung Motors (basically a Renault and Nissan vehicle rebadger), but in this post I meant the IRL Samsung Electronics that made your phones, TVs, and other stuff. The Renault Samsung Motors logo shown on the car is just used for consistency purposes.

The Note7 was launched in 19 August 2016 as a replacement for the outgoing Note5. With its improvements of the vehicle, including improvements to safety, improved Exynos V12 turbos, the use of the newly released Type-C fuel entrance port, and the use of an iris recognition system to help users unlock and start their vehicles easier.

At the first few days of its sale, reviews from many users and outlets were praising how great the car is, due to the excellent build quality, loads of features, high performance and comfort. But then, the first reports of the vehicle exploding have seen. It seems like it’s a normal phenomenon(for a product that just got on sale, at least) for what it seems, but as time goes on, more and more reports of similar incidents have begun to appear, with caused the destruction of the vehicle and some even causing injuries and deaths.

Prelimary vehicle inspections have found out these explosions have caused by a faulty fuel tank system, which caused the fuel tank to overheat and explode. Because of that the company issued a notice for all Note 7 users to recall their devices in an attempt to fix the problem.

Despite all of the recalls, the problem still persists due to another issue that still caused explosions. It was serious enough to the point where many roads have banned the GT from being road-legal. Facing the issues, Samsung has announced the discontinuation of the Note 7 in 11 October 2016, just months after release. All vehicles are recalled again due to the incident, with some users gotten other models (specifically the S7 Edge luxury sports sedan) or a cash refund.

But, is the GT destined to be canned forever? Not quite. In July 2017 Samsung released a refurbished version, known as the Note Fan Edition (FE). The vehicle remains the same as in the original, but it is now equipped with a smaller, yet specially designed fuel tank to mitigate the problem. Thankfully, the refurbished model doesn’t pose a serious issue to all.