Rules have been slightly updated, please check if your cars fit with the new ones. Also, has anyone been using anything above premium fuel? I didn’t mention it since, well, its 1991 so leaded fuel is either illegal or stupidly hard to find and E100(ethanol 100) is a mixture which at the time wasnt yet available
so if i understand the 1.45x turbo multiplier correct, max displacement for turbo gr4 is approx 1379 cc since 1379*1.45=1999.55 is that right?
those weights in kg?
Edit, how about this:
FMC Osprey 300GRX Homologation Special
Competes (we’ll see) in Gr2.
280HP out of a 3.0L V6. Perfect 50/50 weight distribution, neutral handling, stiff ride. 2:13.58 at ATT via AI Stig.
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@mertl yeah, pretty much
@Lanson yes, the weight is in KG and interesting car, doesnt look very 90s in my opinion but its still good to see a first submission. Please do send me the .car file so I can check everything and you’ll officially be the first one
Think if a dodge stealth, a mkiii supra, 300z, and an rx7 (the body) stepped in a cloning booth together in 1990, this is something you could get.
The new update completely levels turbos, so it doesn’t even make sense to cut them off at the knees anymore. Not on premium/super unleaded.
i dont know what you’re doing but XD.
i dont think it would be street legal, just do mind the fact tire sizes will be limited in the race car + you’ll be the one driving it. I didn’t bother to put them now because i didnt think we’d see a kamikaze
not sure about the rear end but its on you, and on the turbos, i’ve seen mages put out 400-500hp on a 1.4L in 89 and still make it very controllable which is why power limits are a thing
I’ve seen that before the last update, now the turbo map and all that stuff seems to nerf the turbos back to reality.
Wait a sec, you just said +you driving it. Is this an automation / Beam challenge?
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for the 2nd part(race), yes, there’ll be 4 tracks and you got to drive on them, your average time is what counts though
if not enough people have it then we can do the race part solely in automation, wont change the core idea anyway
The latest revision to the rule set shows that twin-scroll turbos are not allowed in any class other than Gr.1, where their use is permitted. Is this correct?
correct, twin scrolls are now allowed in Gr1 and exclusively there
Well it does in that a Beam challenge involves optimizing settings for Beam, for my specific input device (gamepad in my case), and then tweaking back and forth between programs until the car has no evil handling surprises and does not push a corner like a dump-truck. So, it definitely is important to know if Beam is involved in the competition. My handling profile will be completely different. I also need to know the tire size restriction, and the track intended to be reasonably ready. All in for an AutoBeam challenge but it is best to say the plot up front because not everyone here has Beam. These are things that I was told when I approached similar discussions about making a challenge.
Thanks!
huh, fair enough, will add them today plus information on how the race will work and maybe an extension of the deadline for the road cars
This is really extremely important. I, for example, use an emulator by type with a two-step constantly increasing gear ratio for high-precision handling and lane-holding. This, however, combined with my steering wheel, does the ride is extremely even and smooth. Not surprisingly, after a some time the Beam stimulator bored me. It seems me that while in the game there was a kind of arcade, linearity, it made me feel a little detached from the world of motorists, and now that everything is set up max as precise as possible, the wheel is became bored to me, and now I am controling the technique mostly with the keyboard. So perhaps a two-position gamepad for each side, combined with turn angle limit filters, would give excellent results.
As you know, if the tire turns a small degree for a long time, the car will respond better to the turn, and if much and fast, the understeer mode will start.
However, the physics of Beam is not as good as it seems, it uses outdated programming technologies of standard simulators, and in this respect is similar to the free game - the progenitor - Rigs of Roads. BeamNG.drive also reflects poorly the laws of impulses and kinematics.
And as it turned out, I was too hasty with my assumptions that no one in the world has yet implemented a system with the variable ratio steering. As it turned out, this system first appeared in the BMW M5 2003 release year.
Kalan sometimes your translation software does not properly put together coherent sentences.
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Right, I’m likely late to tell how the race will work but here we go.
The race:
The times will be taken in automation from 4 tracks I’ll later select out of the world pack(Automation World Track Pack - #5 by Zabhawkin) or maybe other courses(which will be announced beforehand, don’t worry) and following that, we get to the fun part.
I’ll use an online roulette to see if your car will have a failure or not, the chances of your car escaping alive will be counted by your car’s reliability + 15. If you were not very fortunate, however, then we go to a 6 side dice roll to see how bad the failure was,
1: Major failure - out of the race
2: Major failure - can be fixed, however car performance will be damaged
3 to 5: Regular failure
6: Minor failure
For each race I’ll do 10 rolls per car, the one with the fastest time at the end wins.
Fuel consumption will be taken into account aswell.
So far I have not prepared the times for each failure and the fuel stop as I first want to see how will reception to this idea be
Anyway here’s the race car ruleset:
T.Width means tire width, it just didn’t fit inside a single spot, anyway,
- No invisible parts
- This is not a finished ruleset, it may change mostly regarding aero parts
- No more advanced trim settings unless you wish to reduce wheel offset
Deadline is until 22/07 and the production car deadline has been extended up until wednesday next week.
Have fun, mates
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Are we allowed to use VVT of any kind, either for the road car or the race car (or both)? And what fuel types can we use?
As for tire width limits, do they apply equally to both axles, or is it merely an average value, and in any case, do they apply to the road car as well as the race car? Finally, is a catalytic converter a mandatory fitment?
Just a couple of questions for the road car portion?
- Any limitation on engine position?
- Any limitations on the Use of V16s?