2017 LA Auto Show

[vmo]

Ladies and gentlemen!

Thanks to come to the Montes stand!

Today, we have the pleasure to announce, a very special car: a limited edition car. But not of any kind of car. It is very special, and unique today.

That car is the…

MONTES D25

And, yes. It is not an error. This is the model. Is the classic Montes D25. A very special and unique model, how I mentioned before.

And, you may ask, what is special about presenting a model 60 years ago, right?

Well, for those 60 years, this car is just special. A car that revolutionized the concept of sports GT in 1947. A car with a design ahead of its time. A car that perfectly mixed sportsmanship and luxury.

And for that reason, we decided to make a limited edition of the “new” D25. To commemorate his sixtieth anniversary.

Made exactly like the original, stamping the aluminum panels in the original molds to create the elegant suit you saw, and using the same engine as the original, but obviously with improvements in terms of materials, design and adjustments, we want transport the essence of D25 from 1947, to today.

Now, let’s talk about the technical characteristics.

The chassis, tubular steel, has a design similar to the original, but improved in both rigidity and material, welding quality and safety.

The engine is the same as the original. A v8 with banks at 90º and 2.5l, manufactured entirely in steel, DOHC 16v and crossplane, but with technical improvements. From the internal components, totally new both in design and materials, through improvements in the level of tolerances in all sections. And, now, it makes 170hp at 6600RPM, and 227Nm at 3200 RPM, if you choose MPFI. With the quad carb configuration, the specs are 173hp at 6500HP, and 219Nm at 3200RPM.

With regard to the feeding system, we decided to continue using a carburizing system, to maintain the essence of the car, but improved. Moving from three simple carburetors to a confiiguration of four DCOE carburetors. Although, if the client decides, it can be changed by a system of indirect injection multipoint.

In safety, safety belts have been added, the structure of the car has been reinforced and the drums have been replaced by ventilated brake discs on both axles. Three pistons in front and two behind.

As for the interior, it is two-seater, and for its manufacture supreme quality materials are used, such as Poltrona Frau leather, walnut root wood and aluminum, creating a sphere that teleports you in the late 40’s. Lacks screens to give that classic touch, but comes equipped with air conditioning and AM / FM and digital radio.

About when the model, the price and the units are available, tomorrow begins the deadline to request a unit of the 60 that is planned to be built.

The requirements to acquire a unit, valued at $ 207,000, is to pay in advance $ 40,000 only.

The deadline starts tomorrow.

And that’s all. Thank you for your attention!

Now, the question time.

NEWS: Due to different complaints, we have decided to remove the required semi-annual mileage.

[Deponte]

Yes it’s named after Atem from Egypt, also Howitzer is correct according to Wikipedia.
The car is a race car at heart (This is why I mentioned that it took ideas from old supercars as they were often race cars in street disguise) and 3 trims are born to lap the Green Hell track and other tracks, and it’s currently one of the fastest cars ever around the GH (Correct me if I’m wrong).
So I’m expecting it to do well in both the street and the track (If in-game market scoring is anything to go by).

[Dorifto_Dorito]

Important question here. Who exactly is this car for?

You would assume it was for people who collect old cars/old Montes, except you’re forced to drive the car every 6 months, and if you’re a classic car collector, you know you dont do that because it makes the value of the car depreciate faster. And when you consider the price, $247,000 overall, there are probably loads more classic cars that you would be able to buy without the hassle of driving the car twice a year.

Besides, if this isnt for car collectors, then it must be for driving enthusiasts. Except of course its $247,000. You could buy, better, faster, more reliable, safer and probably better looking cars for so much less. And if it has to be a classic car, then there’s still plenty of options.

My point is, that this car is not going to sell at all if you force the owner to drive the car twice a year. The car at the moment with the requirement to drive twice a year and the steep price has a very niche market that really doesn’t exist. You’ll only sell a handful of cars, maybe 10 if you’re lucky, but 600? No chance. There aren’t 600 people in the world who a) can afford the car and b) are willing to drive it at least twice a year. So for the sake of being sensible, drop the requirement to drive it twice a year, because its just plain stupid.

[vmo]

That car is for the classic collectors, who loves to drive the cars, but not for people that bought the car to speculate, and not because they liked the car.

Not everything in this life is speed. In addition to that in many countries, there are speed limits. It is also getting carried away by the heart. Drive something other than what exists.

And about reliability, it’s a very reliable car. Since it does not use complex electronics, and what is mechanical, it is redesigned with respect to the original, and using the current tolerances.

And about the semi-annual mileage, it’s minimal. 4km will be required every six months, so it is feasible. With exceptions.

And about the units, it’s the most we’ll accept.

And, I forgot to say, you can only order the car until December 11th.

EDIT: Corrected. I put a 0 more. Corrected. Thanks!

Due to different complaints, we have decided to remove the required semi-annual mileage.

[conan]

A few more stuff from Conan’s exhibit.

Conan S56: New Engine, Old Recipe

Another thing of note with this year Conan is the adoption of new ConanTech Suffolk Inline 6 in the sporty mid-size executive model, Conan S56. The car might still looks exactly the same as last year S56. But under the bonnet is a brand new, magnesium block Inline 6 that displace from 2.7 up to 3.5 litre. Available as both traditional naturally aspirated and turbocharger option. We’d suggest you buy it instead of the fleet special Surrey Inline 4 as this might be one of the last proper N/A Inline 6 available on the market. The exhaust note is indeed quite sonorous and it’s smooth delivery is everything you could hope for with internal combustion engine.

But if you’re boring like that, you can just buy the downsized Inline 4. In it’s native Europe you can even get this car with the ConanTech 1.5 Inline 3. Only god knows why.

Is this it? The end of Conan’s most luxurious car?

Conan S66 was introduced in 2014 after the introduction of compact executive S47 in 2012 and midsize executive S56 in 2013. The S66 has always been a sale disappointment, with explanation from some speculator being that it’s sharing it’s face and badge with the low rent Conan Compact series not helping it’s case.

It being at the L.A Auto Show at all is a surprise. But even then we must say we’d be sad to see if it go away. With nearly 60 years of Conan finest luxury sedan heritage. Top of the range S66 is available with Naturally aspirated V12 shared with the aforementioned Conan CS67, albeit with tamer setting, muffled exhaust and smoother tune. While the lesser S66 equipped with either the current Suffolk Inline 6 or Birmingham V8.

It’s a mere speculation. But with news about the next development being so quiet unlike it’s little sister cars. We can’t help to think Conan is giving up on it’s luxo-barge range.

Classics Corner: Conan SC7 Prototype

Remember this car? This is the 1987 Conan SC7 Prototype. This car was unveil at 1987 London Motorshow with promise that it’ll arrive on the market in 1989. Alas, it didn’t happen

Promising a V10 engine, full carbon fibre monocoque, and smooth, yet striking exterior design that put you immediately in 1990. We were very surprised that Conan decided to put one of only 3 working prototype (the other two were branded S99, the name it’d have had it went into production) on display here at L.A. This car usually lives in Conan Heritage Centre in Surrey, England.

[11alualhati]

An Unexpected Turn here at the AL Autos Booth

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Hello one and all! Remember how we said we only had two vehicles for you? Well… our design team decided last minute that they wanted to showcase their latest creation. This will be the last car that we will feature for the 2017 LA Auto Show. Now, without further a do, the AL Oriens!

GIF Link Above Pictures!

The AL Oriens RGXLEC

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The Looks

When designing the Oriens, we wanted something that was just simply elegant, a car that had flowing lines, the perfect looks, make the driver feel special, and had the ability to catch the look of any passerby and have them think, “That car looks exquisite”. It doesn’t matter whether you’re going down Highway 1, LA’s highways, or even the city streets, the Oriens will always shine. As the car shines, the driver will as well with the roof down.

The Underpinnings

The Oriens features a 4.7 L Naturally Aspirated Flatplane V8 producing 506 HP sent to the rear wheels. The engine is also partnered with a 7 Speed Double Clutch Sequential Gearbox, electric LSD, Double Wishbone/Multilink Comfort Tuned Suspension, and solid disc brakes tuned for comfort. The Oriens will do 0-62 MPH (0-100 KPH) in 4.4 seconds, achieve a top speed of 179.3 MPH (288.6 KPH), and clock a 1:21.9 on the Top Gear Test Track. When all things considered though, this is a luxury convertible with a beast at heart.

The Luxury

While looking great on the outside, a luxury convertible must be looking good on the inside. AL Autos stuck to this philosophy: Premium Nappa Leather Seats, a 10 speaker premium Bose sound system, automatic climate control, leather/wood trim combo steering wheel, and our AL Connect Infotainment System: USB/MP3 Capability, AM/FM/SAT radio, hands free satellite navigation with real-time traffic, and AL’s WorldConnect which allows the user to check nearby attractions, make reservations, check sports team scores, weather forecast, and so much more! The Oriens will also feature the ALJourneyCamera. This optional feature starts recording a 1920p view of the front of the car and a 1080p view of rear of the car automatically from the moment the car is started. The ALJourneyCamera also has the ability to record several different parameters including if there is a car in the driver’s blind spot and how fast the driver is going and display it in the video. In the incident of a crash/incident, JourneyCamera will automatically save 2 minutes before the incident and 1 minute after the incident. All the videos recorded by the JourneyCam can either be uploaded to the JourneyCloud which is accessible on your mobile device, or can be saved on a micro SD card. Of course, if the driver doesn’t want the JourneyCamera to record his drive, this feature can be turned off. Finally, the Oriens will also feature the ALPotholeResponse. Sensors placed underneath the front end of the Oreins reads the level of the road. If a sharp level change is detected, the system quickly adjusts the suspension to the point that the effects of the pothole are minimized. This system leads to a longer tire lifespan, less risk of wheel misalignment, and an overall more comfortable ride.

Pricing:

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Fully Loaded: $71,820
Base: $65,105

[wassy4]

The Wasserschmitt Booth

Wasserschmidt is very excited to announce the mid-life cycle refresh of our C30 sports sedan. The first variation of this model had some flaws that were made clear to us by owners and critics alike, and we intend to perfect the series C with this next-gen iteration. What we have today is a pre-production version of everyone’s favorite sports sedan.

PRESENTING THE ALL-NEW 2018 C30R

We’ll skip right to the information you wanted to know. In with the 4.0L N/A V8, out with the turbo I6. The lower trims will retain the turbo inline-6, but our engineers felt the V8 would accomplish the performance we wanted from the R with the least compromise. You’d expect the V8 to be heavier than the I6 right? Think again. The old R weighed 3,900lbs which is 300lbs over the base model. The new one? 3,300lbs. That’s 300lbs LIGHTER than the base model. We don’t have production power numbers just yet but we expect the engine to make over 500hp/400tq at the crank.

Improvements to the rest of the drivetrain and suspension have been made as well. We’ve decided to ditch the 8-speed torque converter auto for a 7-speed DCT, which will propel the car to 60mph in 4.1s. We’ve also fine-tuned the suspension to be less harsh day-to-day while still retaining the famous handling characteristics that Wasserschmitt is known for.

If you look at the side profile you’ll see we’ve flared the fenders in order to fit wider tires in the front and rear. 255mm/275mm front/rear to be exact. Not only will this help with putting the power down to the ground, but recent testing on the skidpad showed max cornering Gs of 1.16. With the wider tires comes the ability to fit bigger brakes, which will bring the car from 60mph to a stop in just 94ft.

Last but not least, an active, fully detachable spoiler has been added to the car. It has the ability to raise and retract in seconds, aiding downforce in the corners but lessening drag in the straights. A car that can go from grocery getter hero to race track legend? Yes please. Pricing will start at $63,600 (200% markup)

OFFICIAL LEAK OF PURPORTED “SERIES S” SPORTS CAR

Rumor has it that Wasserschmitt will introduce it’s new engine architecture with their next sports car, the Series S. This new engine is said to be able to balance high performance with high (and we mean very high) MPGs. They’ve left six strings of binary but no one has figured out what they mean. The numbers:

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00110010 00110000 00110111
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00110001 00110010

[Radster]

The demon has been summoned.

Maine Motors is proud to present the 2018 Guayota V8.

- YouTube

The new Guayota is what our designers envisioned as what the new, premium American sports car should be. With seductive, soft and angular lines, we wanted modernity to be one of the main defining characteristics of this car. Our intention with the design was to make the car attractive, while intimidating.

Powered by our StarBanner 5.4L V8, developing 500hp, sent to the rear wheels through our 8 speed automatic (with an optional manual mode), it is able to accelerate from 0 to 62 mph in only 4.1 seconds. It tops out at 215 MPH.

Our OverDrive™ electronic LSD, paired with 265/285 tyres, will allow you to corner at 1.15Gs at 20m and 1.12Gs at 200m. The OverDrive™ system includes every driving aid you could ever need, like lane keeping assist or automatic emergency braking, as well as launch control.

The interior is full of amenities, like our premium stereo system, with Bluetooth connectivity, comfortable leather semi bucket seats, aluminium inserts, and an artisan leather steering wheel.

The new Guayota 5.4 GT will be sold starting in January 2018, for 50000$ (80% markup).

[Awildgermanappears]

I honestly didn’t intend on attending. But then it just happened. Consider it an update. Working Title: 260 R-Concept


2588, 6, 2, 425, 460, 1470, 320

[Hshan]

That… everything I’ve seen the Verona on Discord, but still I’m amazed. The beauty of purity. And when I think of your first iterations of the Verona - they are not just two worlds, two universes. Vixen - my first thought was “looks like a Scirocco, just 10 times better”. Aggressive, yet not chaotic. Everything matches. And the Corsaire… wild monster. Maniac, maniac, on the… track. And what’s best, they are all distinctive, yet distinctively Merciel.

@Deponte Well fcuk. There goes Hypera’s record, just a few months (lore wise, as mine is 2017, yours 2018, and probably in reality, as I had few months of delay between making the car and publishing it) What you achieved is just purely mind-blowing.

@Awildgermanappears 2588 cc, 6 cylinders, 1470 kg and 320 km/h? Did I get anything right?

[Hshan]

Kee not dead yet! And sorry for a double post.

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Let’s play the music! (I had no fitting idea so just put sth cool here)

Zavir is a half American company, yet we never made a real muscle car. Or… have we? What is the definition of a muscle car? American made 4 seat coupe with a powerful V8 and rear wheel drive? Many various Zavirs throughout the years fit this vision, but is that all that defines a muscle car? Most of these cars weren’t named such - they were big and luxurious GTs rather, good for long distance cruising, not daily commute with a quarter mile run now or then. Others were more supercars, with their ahead of the time performance and extreme costs. So is it entirely true? Zavir made no muscle car ever?

A muscle car should be dailiable. Practical, easy to drive, and economical? Quite uncommon, but definitely won’t hurt. Powerful, aggresive looking and just incredibly fast? Sure. Rear wheel driven and powered by a naturally aspirated V8? That’s a classical formula, and a good formula. And if we define a muscle car like that it turns out that Zavir makes such car now - and here is it’s latest iteration, the 2018 Nova Volante Z Sportivo.

With our full-alloy mid size platform housing 4 full seats and sedan-sized boot it definitely is practical. Tests shown that it’s about as easy to drive as our compact Luna and getting 30 MPG also economical. All this despite having 533 horsepower from a 4.5 V8. Incredible speed is ticked too - just 3.7 s to get to 60 MPH and a quarter in 11.7 s are hard to be considered slow. And the looks? Just judge yourself.

A bit more details here: [Kee museum] Zavir Legacy thread - FUTURESIGHT: A glimpse of the future - #51 by Hshan

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Zavir. Il vantaggio della tecnologia.

[stickmaster62]

There’s going to be a new Miller Argonaught. Great.

… it’s that Miller, for me at least, haven’t given me enough reason to care that they’re releasing new cars.

And it’s comments like these that haven’t given a good enough reason to go out of their way to give info, post more pics ect…

[DoctorNarfy]

Please tell me since when it was the job of reviewers to incite new products. Their job is to present their thoughts on what they are given.
If you want your cars to be praised, perhaps consider making something worth praising.

[stickmaster62]

I’m not looking for praise. All I’m saying is if you’re going to give constructive criticism, then make an ACTUAL EFFORT and say what you think needs to be improved…

Peace out.

[Radster]

Giving the middle finger is not a good way to prove your point, you see.

[Dorifto_Dorito]

Im sorry, but how is one exactly how is one going to give constructive criticism when you show nothing? If you asked me to review a car just by looking at it without any information I wont be able to make any sort of proper judgement. The people who do the reviews on the forum arent telepathic, if they cant see the stats then they cant give a proper review.

[DoctorNarfy]

Alright, if you want constructive critisicm, you should learn how to read the opinions of your consumers instead of prying it out of them with insults.
He posted his opinion as a passing thought, giving off the Impression that your teaser didn’t provide much food for thought, it was nothing to get riled up about but nothing to hold his opinion for more than a passing moment.
The lesson learned should be to try and make something more attention grabbing, and if it is poor looking, to improve upon it.

[DeusExMackia]

A statement regarding the current situation.
While my comments were certainly far from constructive, I am not a voice of constructive criticism. I’m not here to review what needs to be improved or what should be changed. My voice is not the be-all and end-all of the automobile. I simply speak my word and try to make it somewhat entertaining.

- Gavin Anderson

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And now, onto more pressing matters…

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Photo by @titleguy1

The GT18 is here at last.
Welcome to the next generation of prototype racer.

[MrChips]

@DeusExMackia

As if it couldn’t get anymore spectacular, they unveiled a new trim for the La Serenissima. Called the Quattrocento, it takes the brilliantly different GT cruiser I drove last month and shoves nine-hundred and twenty-two italian horses down its driveshaft. It’s amazing it can’t go from 0-60 without bending space time around it, but flat out, it’ll top 250 mph. God its so stupid, but of course you want one. You’d have to be clinically unintelligent not to.

If you think the Quattrocento is crazy, you haven’t seen anything yet!

[Hshan]

I can’t wait to be amazed again