2017 LA Auto Show

Awildgermanappears · 30 November 2017 20:31

I honestly didn’t intend on attending. But then it just happened. Consider it an update. Working Title: 260 R-Concept

2588, 6, 2, 425, 460, 1470, 320

Hshan · 30 November 2017 20:47

That… everything I’ve seen the Verona on Discord, but still I’m amazed. The beauty of purity. And when I think of your first iterations of the Verona - they are not just two worlds, two universes. Vixen - my first thought was “looks like a Scirocco, just 10 times better”. Aggressive, yet not chaotic. Everything matches. And the Corsaire… wild monster. Maniac, maniac, on the… track. And what’s best, they are all distinctive, yet distinctively Merciel.

@Deponte Well fcuk. There goes Hypera’s record, just a few months (lore wise, as mine is 2017, yours 2018, and probably in reality, as I had few months of delay between making the car and publishing it) What you achieved is just purely mind-blowing.

@Awildgermanappears 2588 cc, 6 cylinders, 1470 kg and 320 km/h? Did I get anything right?

Hshan · 30 November 2017 22:53

Kee not dead yet! And sorry for a double post.

Let’s play the music! (I had no fitting idea so just put sth cool here)

Zavir is a half American company, yet we never made a real muscle car. Or… have we? What is the definition of a muscle car? American made 4 seat coupe with a powerful V8 and rear wheel drive? Many various Zavirs throughout the years fit this vision, but is that all that defines a muscle car? Most of these cars weren’t named such - they were big and luxurious GTs rather, good for long distance cruising, not daily commute with a quarter mile run now or then. Others were more supercars, with their ahead of the time performance and extreme costs. So is it entirely true? Zavir made no muscle car ever?

A muscle car should be dailiable. Practical, easy to drive, and economical? Quite uncommon, but definitely won’t hurt. Powerful, aggresive looking and just incredibly fast? Sure. Rear wheel driven and powered by a naturally aspirated V8? That’s a classical formula, and a good formula. And if we define a muscle car like that it turns out that Zavir makes such car now - and here is it’s latest iteration, the 2018 Nova Volante Z Sportivo.

With our full-alloy mid size platform housing 4 full seats and sedan-sized boot it definitely is practical. Tests shown that it’s about as easy to drive as our compact Luna and getting 30 MPG also economical. All this despite having 533 horsepower from a 4.5 V8. Incredible speed is ticked too - just 3.7 s to get to 60 MPH and a quarter in 11.7 s are hard to be considered slow. And the looks? Just judge yourself.

A bit more details here: [Kee museum] Zavir Legacy thread - FUTURESIGHT: A glimpse of the future - #51 by Hshan

Zavir. Il vantaggio della tecnologia.

stickmaster62 · 30 November 2017 23:21

There’s going to be a new Miller Argonaught. Great.

… it’s that Miller, for me at least, haven’t given me enough reason to care that they’re releasing new cars.

And it’s comments like these that haven’t given a good enough reason to go out of their way to give info, post more pics ect…

DoctorNarfy · 30 November 2017 23:24

Please tell me since when it was the job of reviewers to incite new products. Their job is to present their thoughts on what they are given.
If you want your cars to be praised, perhaps consider making something worth praising.

stickmaster62 · 30 November 2017 23:26

I’m not looking for praise. All I’m saying is if you’re going to give constructive criticism, then make an ACTUAL EFFORT and say what you think needs to be improved…

Peace out.

Radster · 30 November 2017 23:28

Giving the middle finger is not a good way to prove your point, you see.

Dorifto_Dorito · 30 November 2017 23:30

Im sorry, but how is one exactly how is one going to give constructive criticism when you show nothing? If you asked me to review a car just by looking at it without any information I wont be able to make any sort of proper judgement. The people who do the reviews on the forum arent telepathic, if they cant see the stats then they cant give a proper review.

DoctorNarfy · 30 November 2017 23:40

Alright, if you want constructive critisicm, you should learn how to read the opinions of your consumers instead of prying it out of them with insults.
He posted his opinion as a passing thought, giving off the Impression that your teaser didn’t provide much food for thought, it was nothing to get riled up about but nothing to hold his opinion for more than a passing moment.
The lesson learned should be to try and make something more attention grabbing, and if it is poor looking, to improve upon it.

DeusExMackia · 1 December 2017 00:02

A statement regarding the current situation.
While my comments were certainly far from constructive, I am not a voice of constructive criticism. I’m not here to review what needs to be improved or what should be changed. My voice is not the be-all and end-all of the automobile. I simply speak my word and try to make it somewhat entertaining.

- Gavin Anderson

And now, onto more pressing matters…

Photo by @titleguy1

The GT18 is here at last.
Welcome to the next generation of prototype racer.

MrChips · 1 December 2017 00:16

If you think the Quattrocento is crazy, you haven’t seen anything yet!

Hshan · 1 December 2017 00:17

I can’t wait to be amazed again

DoctorNarfy · 1 December 2017 00:31

Shromet

Shromet Is proud to present the redesigned Dragon!

The Ultimate GT Car, By Shromet.

MSRP: 55,520$, Optional equipment shown. Contact your local Shromet Dealership for exclusive offers on the Dragon.

Grandea · 1 December 2017 07:26

Zenshi Shinden Concept

The Shinden is a concept designed by Zenshi with what could probably be the most straightforward purpose ever: go fast around a track.

With someone familiar with Zenshi, one can see that this has similar lines to the Zenshi-Cavallera Seiryu. The shaping is similar, only that everything from the chassis to the panelling is composed of carbon fibre.

Using a 2.0L Turbocharged I4 designed from the ground up by Zenshi, it soars with a striking 542 HP and revs up to 10,000 RPM. Mated to a racing spec 6-Speed Dual Clutch and weighing in at a light 886 kg, the “superconcept” hits 60 MPH in less than 3 seconds, and gets itself up to 207 MPH.

Everything about the car is aerodynamics. Zenshi’s and ZMD’s design teams carefully made use of functional points of the body without, of course, sacrificing the styling. When the team planned out the Shinka layout, one of the designers wondered: “What if we started from the back first?” And the rest followed through with it.

With a loud 4-cylinder and crazy speed, one has to wonder if such an insane machine will be used on any sort of road. Only time will tell.

abg7 · 1 December 2017 15:16

I used to be skeptical about four-cylinder supercars - which the Shinden most definitely is - but I am now totally convinced, having seen its spec sheet. And it looks ace to boot!

titleguy1 · 1 December 2017 16:47

Thank you for your participation in the Los Angeles Auto Show. We will continue activities soon.

titleguy1 · 2 December 2017 21:02

Press days run from November 28th to November 30th. You must reveal your cars on or before the press days.

DeusExMackia · 2 December 2017 22:40

Press Day 3
With the LA Auto Show now open to the public, it’s time to go over what else was shown this years event.

Merciel proved yet again that normal cars needn’t be dull. The facelifted Verona is a seriously smart looking package, especially in the Touring model on display. The real focus, however, was very much on the motorsport side of things; the 2018 Vixen Rally Concept is absolutley phenomenal. It shouts pure fury mixed with technological class, and it’s a welcome return to rallying for French rally masters. The 2018 Corsaire GTE has had a similar makeover, and is now being offered as a near $300k homolagation special. Sign me the f*ck up, driving one on the Yorkshire dales was livid enough. And in the meantime saving up for it, you can watch it (and many of the other upcoming GTE cars) in the WEC next year.

Montes released an interesting car, some sort of Resto-mod called the D25. It’s quite the pretty machine, and the low revving 2.5l V8 will certainly give it that 50s feel. At $207k though, it’s quite an ask. One would have thought that a bit more power would have been far better, and especially no carburetors. Something a little more Eagle Speedster.

Conan’s display continued with the very pretty S56. The British mid-size sedan is still overdoing it with the chrome, though the German styling hints certainly give it prestige, and the availability of i6s really is a nice touch. The S66, which certainly has a case of the copy-and-paste styling, but then again, it comes with a V12, and the other engines are named after places in the UK. Proper British goodness!

AL made a second announcement, revealing the Oriens RGXLEC…I hope I’m typing that correctly. The styling is slightly better, though the quad-grille stack at the front looks frankly ridiculous. AL, you do not need that many vents on your car!

Wassermicht unveiled the positively dull C30R. It’s a very clean cut design, but it really doesn’t speak volumes, particular as a performance trim of the mid-size sedan. The promise of 500hp will certainly tempt some in this now very competitive market, but the looks aren’t going to take anyones fancy. Plus, $63000. That’s seriously expensive for such a car.

“American Sportscar”. I still don’t know if that’s even a phrase that makes sense, but it’s a 500hp, 200+mph $50k coupe called the Maine Guayota. Screw how well or how awfully it handles, that’s a lot of performance for your buck. The back certainly looks good, though the front is a bit finnicky. It has that American semi-bling feel that we just don’t quite get over in the UK. However, should it come over to the UK, it could be a real proper bargain. How they’re able to sell it for $50k is quite something though, and I worry it might be covering up some cost cuttings.

IMP’s 260 R-Concept was shown, with very little information. The stark, if unfinished looking concept that certainly says ‘performance’, with that tinge of German efficiency you’d expect. But, my word! The German’s have painted the car purple! Is this what they called excitement?

Oh Zavir, how I love thee. Taking cues from the new Luna Spyder, the Nova Volante it’s a really good looking car. Its sleekness really sells it, plus the details of the Z Sportivo model - a 533hp sports car - really is incredible. At $66k, that’s a seriously well priced car with those kinds of performance specs. Plus, you just know how much of a classic this is going to be in years to come.

Peace out to you too Miller. After a little debacle on Friday, the company closed up shop, and all that can be found on their website is now just a man flipping the bird. Real classy.

So ErinSport launched their new racecar. In other news…

Shromet’s Dragon has had a minor facelift, and is now even more graceful than before. The wing is a little less overt now, which is nice, and there’s no doubt about how sweet this thing looks in the front 3/4 view they had on their display. You can read my review of it here.

Zenshi closed up the day with the track-focused Shinden concept. It certainly has fury woven into its styling, and I’m sure Hot Wheels had some say on the rear end. The real matter of interest here is the performance, which should be the focus; it is track car. The short of it: 542hp from a 2.0l i4. The wars that have been raging in the the light-weight sports car market over how far the i4 can be pushed may as well end there, that is an incredible amount of power. No doubt that that engine would cost more than most cars to make alone and be about as reliable as recalled Saminda, but heck I’d love to drive this.

And with that, the show draws to a close, and another year of automotive development ends. Over to the organisers now to host the end-of-show polls, I’m heading out for one last night in LA. Adios!

- Gavin Anderson

Hshan · 2 December 2017 23:03

I see a little bias here Not that I have anything to complain about in this

Dorifto_Dorito · 2 December 2017 23:37

AMWEC 2018 confirmed?