A general note on Tycoon-style games

[quote=“AlfaDave”]New Multiair Technology: More Power, Less Fuel, Lower Emissions
there is all the spec about multi air tech.

also i only thought it was the programming that is busy not the artwork. as i read the artwork is quite quiet in comparison[/quote]

I was under the opposite impression; that there is LOTS of artwork to be done. AFAIK its only I4 stuff thats done at the moment… Then theres the bodies of the cars and stuff like that.

Multi-air sounds cool. I think anything that could be added that wouldn’t require new artwork should be considered. I would also like to see things like the TVIS that was on 4AGE engine, or Variable Length Intake on quite a few cars of the 90’s…

Well since Fiat and Alfas are practically non-existant here we don’t hear as much about that stuff. Sounds like a great idea though… Im suprised I haven’t heard anything about it until now.

Well it’s quite new stuff. but yeah you should have heard about it. Multiair in it’s current from would have practically no new artwork, although they plan to just have a pump instead of the camshaft, but thats the future.

There is quite a lot of art, yes!

However a lot of the last year of work on my part was learning, working out how we were going to do things, refining our process for exporting art etc.

Also we now have pistons, conrods, valves etc. that can be used in all engines, and it won’t be too hard to modify existing heads and blocks into different configs.

So, the engine stuff is fairly in the bag, probably only a few months work for me, but we certainaly don’t want to add any EXTRA art at the moment though, as there IS still a lot of art of chassis, suspension, brakes, body panels, factory buildings… etc. :smiley:

Please, go ahead and suggest things though, we actually do have a “That’ll go in if we get to make an expansion” list! (Actually, I might even make a thread for it)

but somehow they were too stupid to really exploit their common rail invention.

no they wanted to hold onto the common rail engine design but due to money and lack of funds coz for some reason people buy 10 year behind golfs rather than a decent car they had to sell the design to keep afloat

trust me they really wanted to keep it to themself they would of wiped vw out of the market as all vw had was direct pd engines at the time

and not starting a marketing campaign like VW did for their TDIs or audi for the quattro was wise how exactly?

common rail or PD is more or less a flavor question.

common rail has more comfort, PD was until recently more efficent

pd has never been more efficient where have u got that from. pd is basicly a direct injection diesel engine where each injector has its own pump and therefore only has a certain pressure it can achieve where as common rail has one pump and injector release mechanism for each injector so it can build its pressure very high and therefore the spray the injector does is at a higher pressure and far more like a mist rather than a spray so combustion burns a light mist rather than a spray. common rail diesels have always been more efficient.

vag group advertising their tdi engines basicly advertising fiats jtd engine that they brought the design for. the only reason vag group have the money to do all this advertising of other peoples tech is because stupid people buy into their advertising that they are the most reliable cars in the world when through experiance they are deffo not buy many of my firends they are terrible most have no faults through the year then take them for mot and they fail dredfully and have to have a bunch of repairs as they go way past emmisions only reason they thought they were running fine is because they are very low modified engines producing very little bhp and have very wide margins on optimum performance for the ecu. if they had the same engine in an alfa for instance you would get a warning light very early on as it would say there is a fault as ecu has very harsh parameters to go by as they normally run far higher bhp. i think audi’s quatro was before vag group took over…

just think vag group this covers vw and audi have the same engine as alfa/fiat vag group class it as tdi fga class as jtd. vag get 136bhp from 1.9 or 140bhp in audi higher spec. and im talking about the 16v 1.9 diesel. fga got 150bhp out of same engine. only recently vag group have uprated the tdi engine to 150 so fga have said ok we will put 170bhp in 1.9. vag group have always been behind and always will. they never make anything new they just take old tech and brand it as new thats where you get your reliability illusion from. if any brand was to use old tech and down rate the bhp it would become reliable. but its like taking a spaceship and only using it to just touch the line of space then bring back. they are made for a job why under achieve

common rail out did pd engines on every mark from 1997 by the way lower emmisions lower fuel consumption more bhp and more torque

the pressures of PD where higher than those of CR until i think 5 years ago, personally i driven the original TDI (audi 80 from 93 (B3) and golf mk III from 96) the PD (golf mk IV) and the CR (alpha 156 SW 2.4 JTDm), and the feeling of the PD was the most spontanous when i hit the gas.

VW bought audi from merc in the 60 or 70 iirc, they also had a 170 1.9 engine (around 08).

and the higher output Vs. less errors is a marketing question first.

CR mk I had 1350 bar, mk II 1600, and mk III 1800-2000. PD also 2k.

i have driven both a pd and a jtd the pd had mega turbo lag so i dont see what you mean by response as the jtd 20v had no turbo lag what so ever and as soon as you put your foot down the revs rise. far more torque than pd. ok i did not know pd was that high i was under the impression it was only 1.5 bar. the common rail must spray it in a more fine mist and more accurately then as they achieve far better mpg 55mpg on average from a 2.4 saloon car. and my cousin who has a little seat with a pd cant get over 45mpg and thats a little hatch back also he does more motorway miles than me mine is around town.

was the 156 the earlier pre face lift version if so its the 10v at 136bhp which was first jtd engine back in 1997 release.
i know for a fact that my 20v out does every vw and audi diesel i meet and most of them cover you in black smoke mine runs clean :slight_smile: diesels should never soot up only when been on motorway and should clear out after you stop and start going again as u will put your foot down. after that you should not even get a puff of smoke. 156 feeling laggy or slow could be down to intercooler pipes being split. b4 u say alfa reliability they are a common pipe that goes through alot of brands and alot of brands split after about 40k miles due to the stretching and shrinking the pipe does. which audi has 170 bhp???

i know there is a 2litre that is 170bhp(a3 s-line) but not the 1.9. i was saying the 1.9 150bhp is max for the 1.9

they do call both of the 2 engines 2 litres tho so i can see where you would get confused
but vag have a 1.9 common rail and a 2.0 common rail. the 2l is the later model i think from 06 onwards

Ten years ago, no one would have believed that best selling Alfas would fuel from the black pump - but that’s the case today. Alfa’s sales focus now is one their latest 170bhp 2.0 JTDm engine with its impressive pulling power but for the time being at least, it also sells alongside the older 1.9-litre Multijet unit which soldiers on in 120 or 150bhp guises. At the top of the diesel range, the 210bhp 2.4 JTDm continues on unchanged. This is an absolute stormer, capable of zipping to 60mph in a tad under 8 seconds. All the engines have something to be said for them, but the 2.4-litre unit is particularly impressive. This is one of the most advanced diesel engines you can buy anywhere and comes complete with a counterbalancing shaft to all but do away with almost every one of those traditional diesel rumbles. Common-rail technology we’re well familiar with by now, but what exactly do Alfa mean by Multijet? Here, injection pressure is independent of engine speed and can therefore be varied throughout the rev range, irrespective of the amount of diesel being delivered. This improves combustion, which has significant benefits for both performance and economy. Performance first. The rest to sixty sprint takes just over 8 seconds on the way to 140mph - but that only tells a small part of the story. The pulling power of this engine is just astonishing. This is thanks to a 284Ibft peak torque figure that’s greater even than the classic 3.2-litre V6 24v engine can muster. Mind you, it’s necessary to adopt a distinctly un-Alfa-like driving style to get the most out of the JTD. Instead of searing the engine up to the red line as you would in a JTS petrol model, you have to get used to changing up a lot earlier. The surge of power begins at 1,500rpm and is all over by 4,500rpm. In-between is enough acceleration to take you comfortably into licence-confiscation territory. Of course, you don’t get that lovely JTS zing while you’re doing it - though the five-cylinder engine’s note is much more appealing then that of a conventional diesel. But you don’t buy a car like this for aural pleasure. Alfa reckon that, thanks to their Multijet technology, this 159 is on average 15% more frugal than its immediate rivals - and the figures bear this out. With an average fuel economy of around 52mpg from the 170bhp unit, this is a car that doesn’t penalise you for having fun.

vag group have the same type of thing with the 1.9 and 2.0 variants

also that 2.4 engine in my 156 does 0-62 in 7.2 seconds the 159 is a fat old beast just like its german rivals. thats why it takes 8 seconds to get to 62

AlfaDave, There is an edit button…

alfa im worried your going to wear your keyboard out :laughing:

ford tdci thats what you want :laughing:

have just noticed there is an edit button lol. also for diesel u r joking right there are a list of bad parts for those engines. they took a good idea and made the parts cheaper to make more money. look im editing
im gonna stop putting posts about stuff not really relating to the game. :unamused: