Automation Legacy Challenge (SEE NEW THREAD)

FRENCH KISS

Part Five In Our 1960s Racing Retrospective

(All entries by @Bbestdu28)
(Rear: Centara BHV8, originally by @Edsel)
(Front: L’orange pressée and BMA Compaq 246 Requin Blanc both originally by @Bbestdu28, Colombe RS1400 originally by @Maverick74)

And now we come to some of the oddest entries in the 1960s, hailing from the French madmen over at BMA. We’d like to get a sample of whatever they had back there in France during the time, because they really were madmen. Putting out eccentric, odd cars that didn’t really land that well in the categories… Well, let’s get started.

You might not think a Wagon would be particularly well-suited for the special class, but BMA didn’t. That said, the base car here wasn’t quite an ordinary wagon. Reviewers at the time said the engineering was closer to a sporty coupe, which hurt on the market - but it helped on the racetrack, or it would have if the BMA wasn’t, well… What it is. See, there’s a dirty secret in the heart of motorsport. Sure, people can talk about the purity of racing, the sport, but it exists to sell cars. Win on Sunday, sell on Monday. So when your sporty wagon has a label referring to its fuel as “jus d’orange” and a sticker on the front saying that it’s “100% Pur Jus”… Well, you’re making a particular statement. You’re saying that you’re a fun, cute car. Nothing wrong with that, except for when said car is an expensive premium luxury car. Much like the engineering didn’t fit the market needs, the styling didn’t fit the advertising either.

So, if you sat this car and the last one next to their originals and asked which was the special and which was the modified, you’d probably get it wrong. This one is far more extensibly modified, far more aggressively modified, and that sure ruffled some feathers. A big, established manufacturer putting such complicated aero on the rear of the car? Well, it rubbed people the wrong way. It didn’t help that the original 246 had a reputation for being overly expensive both to buy and run, and not offering much in return. Nobody really loved it. The mouth would have been a nice touch, maybe it would have been more popular if people could look past the rear.

Believe it or not, this Cesma actually needed some upgrades over the original which made it more like a regular consumer car! See, even in the 60s, race cars in Araga still needed two-way radios in order to send and receive messages from race control. Usually, that just meant swapping out the stock unit for a better one, but there was no stock unit in the Colombe! They had to get a little creative to mount one, but mount one they did - along with mudlaps, rally lights and a vibrant bright paint job. As eyecatching at the Orange Press, but in the right way this time.

Yes, that is exactly what it looks like - a racing van, in black and gold. Calling it the Widow Storer is a little bit morbid, but it was really a widow. The car was made as there were discussions about making a category of racing for the vans and utes that filled Araga back then, but the category fell to pieces and never ran. This is a prototype and they didn’t get too far with it - a front splitter and a bunch of paint is about as far as it went with the car, emblematic of the category itself. BMA was throwing resources at whatever ideas came their way, some good and some bad.

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STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCUM!

The Final Part In Our 1960s Racing Retrospective

(Left: Don Hernando Suarez’ #16 Custom CESMA Rossignol, Centre: BumbleBeastie, Left: Aileron Automobiles Carcane Rally)
(CESMA originally by @Maverick74, BumbleBeastie originally by @Knugcab, both modified by @Edsel)
(Aileron originally and modified by @Arn38fr)

Practically as long as there has been racing, there have been rules. There are certain things you have to do, and certain things you just can’t do. We found a collector with not one but two of these outlaws, and a third perfectly legal car.

The CESMA Rossignol was perhaps not the best sports car in 1964. Owners complained that the diminuitive 1.1L engine was too small to deliver an acceptable amount of power. But like the other famous Don, Don Maria Hernando Suarez Bilbao did not let a dream being unrealistic stand in the way of his dreams of chivalry. Don Suarez’ custom Rossignol swaps out the gutless stock engine for a proper 4.6L V8. No Rocinante would be worthy of the name with an uncomfortable interior, of course, so Don Suarez fitted it out with a single luxurious seat. As quixotic as it may seem to mix green and purple, the Don somehow managed to pull it off.

Now, to a rather controversial car which started quite a few fights. See, there wasn’t really a rule against the BumbleBeastie when it arrived at the track… but it was quickly kicked out and forced to leave, headed back to the garage for modifications its owners refused to make. The organisers found that the stinger on the rear was too dangerous - if someone ran into the rear of it, things could easily get messy. The team argued that it was an essential part of the car. Things ended up in the courts, where the team was not allowed to enter. The aggressive styling of the car won it some fans, but it ultimately got disqualified and kicked out.

(“Binned” for the stinger.)

Finally, we come to Aileron’s attempt at the rally category. Remember how the Colombe needed to be upgraded with a radio to be legal? Well, the unit in the Aileron was a cheap, second-rate unit which caused unacceptable levels of interference for everyone and was barely audible. It’s a shame, really. It was a rather nice car, but it was just too dangerous. What if there was a landslide that forced the route to change? Or what if the crew needed urgent medical assistance?

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Also, one final announcement:

I will be accepting oddball submissions until 11:59 PM UTC this Friday (June 16th). Across the next weekend, I will post my thoughts on them and…

I WILL ALSO BE POSTING THE BRIEF FOR THE NEXT ROUND

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Oddball Reviews

No big set dressing here, because uh… I can’t really find one for these two cars tbh. Only two to review, but uh… it is what it is. So, without further ado…

@Ludvig - Swanson AUV-55R

I’ll be honest to you, I have absolutely no idea what this engineering is. Is it for actual racing? Araga had an actual truck racing category. It died a death but uh, you made it too good for the actual racing category in Araga. I didn’t test all 5 tracks, but you did a 2:43.12 around ATT, good for a PR of 1.208 - the minimum for the commercial category is 1.35. Is it intended as an actual van used by a team? I hope not, with 3.4 comfort courtesy of a basic interior, no radio and plenty of other sins. Semi slick tyres won’t help either, on the road. Ok, let’s move past that, to the design and uh… It’s a van, I guess? It’s definitely a looker, make no mistake, but it’s not really an oddball, you know? In 1952, it would have been, well… conventional. You did well, it looks cool, but an oddball? It’s not, really.

@shibusu - Ilaris Icon - Binned for not following naming convention

Nah, just joking. You submitted the original correctly, and I don’t feel like binning you so… Here we go. A car with a turbocharged i6 usually wouldn’t be that odd… but in 1962? The game just barely allows you to do it, with +13 techpool. It turns out that two cars in 1962 actually did it - the Chevrolet Corvair Monza and the Oldsmobile Jetfire. Two cars that, uh… had their fair amount of issues. So, I will allow it now - but I put one single condition on it. It needed to have a bunch of negative quality on the turbo, and needed to suck on that level. Otherwise, I would have considered it to just be a bunch of empty promises at a car show - you know, like the Devel Sixteen.

Okay, so, the actual car. How about we start with the engineering, shall we? The turbo spools up hard at 3600 RPM, but redlines at 5800. It’s paired with a high performance twin-carb setup, a clutched LSD… And honestly, the biggest shortcoming is something with how the game simulates carbs. See, the game is rather significantly retarding timing at full RPMs, but how does the engine do that? What does that actually represent? When asked, shibusu said it was some mechanism keyed off of RPMs which is good enough for me… But this thing really should be knocking (like that Jetfire, which needed Methanol to prevent knock). Looking elsewhere, this really is the kind of car you expect to see experimental tech in. A premium interior, and overall premium design. No real standouts, but no real drawbacks. Overall, the engineering is solid, if heavily centred upon turbo - fair enough, tbh. Overall, customers would be satisfied, if they could get past the turbo lag and other drawbacks.

But it doesn’t stop with engineering - and really, this is where it gets fun. The fixtures. All five hundred and sixteen of them. This car has an inordinate amount of seemingly superfluous detail. It starts at the very front. Is 92 FCK a license plate in the game? Nope. It’s a custom plate. Completely custom, including the logos. I’m not entirely sold - the connection isn’t as great as vanilla ones, and the sharp shape is a bit questionable, but this is just the start of things. In the interior, it’s similar - custom lap belts, because mosty of the fixtures represent more modern ones. I could nitpick a few things but it’s all drowned out by how much detail there is on the headliner, how much you did to custom-model the folded roof… (Side note, having engineering for sunroofs would be nice).

I was flicking on and off the body, looking through everything when I noticed something under the hood. Numerous fluid reservoirs, a fuse box and battery with wires thoroughly modelled, a fan behind the (additional custom) radiator, custom modelled exhaust pipes… Just why though? What was the benefit of all that effort where nobody can see it? It’s very impressive, but that is perhaps the oddest part. Really, it has to be seen to be believed. I would personally urge you to release the file.

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Thanks for the free mini heart attack >:(
(no worries)

And so it shall be!
Authentic ‘normal’ version with the 85hp I4:
Ilaris_Icon_-_GT.car (300.2 KB)

Cabrio-coach:
Ilaris_Icon_-_GT_Turbo-Cabrio_Coach.car (314.7 KB)

A few notes about the car:

  • Ignore the engineering. The original car was made when I knew about nothing about engineering.
  • The wiring was made for the I4, and thus is completely wrong on the I6 turbo.

Many thanks for the review!

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ERA 3: '65-'69

Or: The Safety Scare

Almost one entire year after the previous round closed, the next era opens. This era ends in 1969. With recent updates, I can use techpool to manipulate unlocks… But not completely. IRL, 1973 was the next biggest change, but, well, there won’t be a malaise era here. Instead, well… There is what was hinted at in the end of the last era, and something that conveniently allows me to handle some of the recent updates.

Also, entries will close on the 14th of July at 11:59 PM UTC, plenty of time. I am going to aim for a rough cadence of “1 month creating, 1 month writing”, but the second part is really just a goal.

MAJOR RULES CHANGES

Araga may follow a somewhat unrealistic path, wait and see. However, there are four major changes to the core rules of the challenge. The simplest ones are that entrants are no longer forced to stick with a single brand or company, and that (as mentioned before) I am now looking for co-hosts to handle particular segments. Co-hosts will be responsible for a particular market segment, and don’t have to stick around for more than one round, it’s all optional. @Edsel has already offered to handle a segment, ideally I’d want another 2-3 co-hosts, feel free to offer.

In addition, entrants may now submit two versions of the same base. This can mean three things:

  • The same car, two trims - potentially with an engine swap (see: C8 Corvette Stingray vs C8 Corvette Z06)
  • The same platform under two different brands (see: Chevrolet Cavalier vs Caddilac Cimarron)
  • The same car, with a different wheelbase (see: Mercedes’s various LWB/SWB offerings)

You should use the same broad body family (For instance, RB_60s_sports_20, 23, 25 and 27 are all the same broad family). However, everything in the chassis tab (panel material, chassis type and material, engine placement, suspension types) should remain the same.

Finally, I am overhauling how safety will be calculated in Araga. Weight and footprint will no longer boost safety. To clarify what that means, take a look at the below screenshot from the detailed stats pain.

Normally, the 40.2 value is gained by adding together elements from body, weight and footprint. Now, however, the weight and footprint will be excluded - only the body part will matter. 15.9 is multiplied by 0.901 (100% minus 9.9%) to get a final safety value of 14.3.

Wha happun?

At the end of 1964, Aragan road safety was a hotbutton topic. It was a massive matter of debate, and the government acted rather unilaterally, not waiting to allow car makers to lobby against the sweeping new changes. But the massive threat to manufacturers also presented an opportunity. See, Araga was having a massive boom in the economy, enough that the government could bring in a massive sweeping plan: All previous cars would be brought off the road, replaced with newer, safer models evaluated under a new system. Much more stringent requirements, and a new approach to ratings. Customers were forced to start from a clean slate, but there were a lot of cars being bought.

Impact Of Last Round's Spending, And A Lobbying Recap

Last round’s lobbying results were that we would have a modification to the tax equation, and a ban to leaded fuel in new cars.

A lot of you spent money on trains. Like, crazy amounts of money. Goes without saying, then, that y’all are getting trains. A decent amount of money was spent on importing the train network. Coupled with the results of last round where Araga saw a hefty push towards urbanism and satellite cities, well, the results are going to be rather explosive. There was also a push towards air travel, with just about no investment in road transit. So, Aragan cargo transit consists of trains and planes, with vans and medium-sized trucks for that last mile.

Next, to education. We saw a decent amount of investment there, mainly in the arts and in science - less in trades. So, what actual effects does that have? Well, for now, the science effects will manifest as a free +3 to interior, safety and assists quality. You’re gonna need one of those three. The arts have manifested in that tourism boom I mentioned, all using the new rail network to tour Araga… Well, not all. More about that later.

Finally, with motorsport… I messed up my sums and will have to go back around to them, I’ll post when we get to racing again.

Get In The Pool

For this round, we will use the standard 5 point techpool, except you are allowed 8 points in safety, assists and interior. You can copy paste the following:

Techpool
Family,5.0
BottomEnd,5.0
TopEnd,5.0
Aspiration,5.0
FuelSystem,5.0
Exhaust,5.0
Body,5.0
Chassis,5.0
Interior,8.0
DriverAssists,8.0
Safety,8.0
DriveTrain,5.0
Tyres,5.0
Brakes,5.0
Aerodynamics,5.0
Suspension,5.0

Safety Regulations and Fixture Requirements

  • Cars must use 70s safety. That’s why you got that sweet, sweet techpool. Yes, that means that you don’t get standard safety for the start of the round. Yes, that means basic safety is not an option. Have fun. (CHANGED FROM PREVIOUS ERA)
  • Headlights: at least one pair, round lenses are most common
  • Turn signals: must be visible when looking directly at the front and rear of the car; side-mounted ones are not required but can be used in place of front- and rear-mounted ones for this so long as they are visible. Light-based turn signals must be orange. Semaphore-style indicators are allowed.
  • Tail lights: at least one pair required. Must be red and must use different bulbs to the brake light.
  • Brake lights: at least one pair. Must be red and must use different bulbs to the tail lights.
  • Reversing lights: not required.
  • All legally mandated lights facing forward or back: At least one set on each side must be visible from the head of the dummy in the Light Visibility Measure-inator, at a distance of 2m from front bumper to rear bumper. The Measure-inator uses the crash dummy mod. If only your driver’s side indicator is visible, you will fail the test.
  • Mirrors: now required, may be mounted anywhere but should be fairly visible from the driver’s seat. (CHANGED FROM PREVIOUS ERA)
  • Gas cap: must be mounted externally, placement is free but should make sense (CHANGED FROM PREVIOUS ERA)
  • Wipers: one wiper required on the front.
  • License plate: any (unscaled) plate will be allowed, as there are no standards yet, because I forgot to get opinions.

Other Regulations

  • Emissions and efficiency requirements: None yet.
  • Fuel availability: Leaded fuel has been banned for new cars. Regular (91 RON) fuel is available.
  • Tyres: Over 75% of cars in the previous era used radial tyres. As a result, cross-plies are basically non-existent on the market going into 65. Use radials.
  • Name your model and family ALC3C1 - <YourForumName> for your first trim, ALC3C2 - <YourForumName> for your second trim if you submit one.
  • Vehicle taxation: Displacement taxes remain in force. The amount of tax is based on the displacement in CC, where Tax=1.6^((displacement-3000)/1000)*506.25. The tax on new cars has been waived for this period. There will still be a 2000CC tax break on cars with dedicated non-passenger spaces around 40% of the length or more, but the tax break for offroad cars has been removed.

Market Sentiment

  • You may think that with everyone needing to buy new cars, they’d be looking for cheap ones… But nope, not quite. See, Araga is seeing an absolutely massive economic upturn. Tons and tons of extra money going around, so people are looking to spend, spend, spend. The government giving people rebates will help for that, so yup. Customers are less price sensitive.
  • Customers did get good value for money at the both ends of the market last time, so… Good job there. Customers are fine with spending, and want to spend.
  • Small engines have often been low on power, making them rather slow. Continuing along this trend may mean that the government re-examines the rules… But if a company makes a small engine that punches above its weight, that might be seen as a marvel of engineering.

Current Events

The safety scare takes up the full era.

Lobbying Opportunities

The following elements may be lobbied on. The next era’s length uh… Has not been decided on yet.

  • Companies can lobby for US-sized or Euro-sized license plates.
  • Companies can lobby about safety, on a between 1 to 9. 1 represents a substantial weakening of the government’s stance towards safety, 5 represents the stance remaining roughly the same, 9 represents a stronger stance. What does it look like making the current system stronger? Honestly, I don’t know but I kinda wanna find out…
  • Taxation and other lobbying will be done after the round, because I want to see what people do.

In-round Bonus!

Yes, there’s more! With the explosion in tourism, the large numbers of cars being pulled off the road and the public transit networks, hire cars are becoming more and more of a big business - to the point where hire car companies are looking to purchase cars to build their fleets.

Cars submitted should be road legal. The target market varies a fair bit - groups of tourists are a large part, but they’re also looking to sell to people who have decided not to buy a car and just occasionally rent one every now and then. Some tourists have plenty of money and some don’t - just like the carless locals. You should submit cars with at least four seats. Name your car ALC3H - <YourForumName>. This car does not have to be the same as your regular car.

The following are considered to be of particular importance:

  • Purchase cost and service costs. Money matters a lot, spending a ton of money now or having massive overheads will make it hard to run the cars. This really matters most.
  • Reliability. When the car breaks down, it stops making money.
  • Drivability. Yes, crashes are covered under insurance and/or billed to the customer, but it’s still a hassle - and some of the customers are infrequent drivers.
  • Prestige. You can charge more for a prestigious car, you get higher margins there.

The following will be largely ignored:

  • Sportiness. The hire car companies would really prefer it if the cars weren’t driven hard.
  • Offroad. Again, this will put extra wear on the car and be hard to clean.
  • Fuel economy. That’s for the customers to deal with.

All other stats will be considered roughly as the market normally would.

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Ilaris of Araga

Ilaris comes to Araga for 1965, with two of the most advanced cars ever divised. The best part? It’s the safest Ilaris to have been engineered…and it was done solely in Araga.


For '65: Ilaris Imperial Injection

So, what is different about the Imperial? Well, for one, it’s got fuel injection. Unlike carburetors, fuel injection systems spray a fine atomised mist of fuel, a contrast to primitive bucket-loads of fuel being dumped in to the throttle by a carburetor. Along with that, it’s rear-engined.
You may ask what the purpose of that is. Well:


Safety was our number one priority for the vehicle. Along with its optimised ‘crumple zones’, it also features strengthened passenger cabin, collapsible steering column, strenghtened pillars, and side-impact beams. It also features larger bumpers to prevent damage in case of a minor fender bender.

You may also notice these covers in front of the headlights. In our efforts to extend safety beyond the car’s occupants, we designed these covers to minimise the risk of injury to a pedestrian if they are struck by the vehicle. The covers can be retracted and do not extend further, so in case of failure there is still a guarranteed beam of light. Additionally, unlike pop-up headlights, these headlights can flash the high-beams immediately without delay.


We also made a performance version. Because we’re Ilaris.

Ilaris Imperial PowerStar Sprint

It has a V8. 2.8 liter V8. It revs up to 7200rpm. Because we’re insane. And Ilaris.
It makes 200 horsepower. It’s definitely safe. It goes up to 222km/h and gets to a hundred in 5.9 seconds.

Gallery





(C) 1965 Ilaris Araga PTO - legalese, blah blah blah. ALC speedrun? Sure.
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Apologies for the double post, but is the bonus round seperate from the 1/2 cars you submit for the main round? I.e. do you have to modify the car you have for the main round or can you throw an entirely different car at it?

(If it’s the former, then I’m screwed)

The intent is to allow for unrelated new cars or modified versions of the original - I don’t want to freeze out people who happen to submit 2-seat supercars. I will edit the post to reflect this.

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The 55R was imagined as more of a promotional vehicle than an actual race car (I didn’t pick up on the defunct racing truck category). Overpowered and uncomfortable for everyday use, certainly - a later, more comfortable version sacrificed inconsequential performance. Only a handful were ever built - unsafe at any speed comes to mind.
Inspired by the first Transit Supervan, but earlier and more pedestrian.
Anyway, is the new round for anyone, or for those who participated in the previous rounds?

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The new round is for anyone to join, I don’t want to freeze anyone out.

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1965 Ironclad C-C Series Heavy Duty Cab-Chassis Trucks


Ever thought about gas? Sure, it runs your car, and you buy it at the gas station, but have you ever really thought about how it gets there?

Let’s face it - Crude oil comes up from the ground and goes through a pipeline to a distillery. From there, various products like diesel, gasoline, and kerosine, get packed into tank cars on trains. But how do you get it from the train to the gas station, where you filled up your car this morning?

With a truck.

Ironclad Industrial has been making trucks for a while. Usually they’re bigger than this, but, we understand the value of small tankers like these.

These are our new series of Cab-Chassis trucks. The “C-C Series” for short. Available in expanded cab, or day cab configurations (Expanded cabs shown, day cabs are available upon request), these overgrown pickup trucks are designed to mount any standard Ironclad Upfit on the back. You can have everything from tanker trucks to cement mixers, moving vans to flatbeds, and just about anything you could imagine on this platform. Need a “yard pig” to shove empty semi-trailers around? We’ll put a fifth-wheel on a shortened frame and you can move those empty trailers out of your way. Looking to start a shipping business? We’ve got box upfits in both refrigerated and non-refrigerated varieties. Gotta move some haz-mat? We’ll design a specialized compartment designed around your dangerous cargo needs.

We understand that, day…

…or night, the freight must go.

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A couple of slight anouncements:

  • A spreadsheet of stats will be publically released after the round closes and reviews go up. The co-hosts will get to see stats, so it’s only fair that everyone does.
  • The co-hosts are:
    @mart1n2005 - Luxe/Prem
    @shibusu - Commercial/Utility
    @Edsel - Budget/Family
    – Me - Sport, particular outliers, general editing and opinions.
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At this point, would companies be wondering about fuel efficiency and therefore not use the high-revving small displacement engine like in the S600?

Just wondering, as I’m hoping to make Mourmin Moteur’s meta RR high-revving 400CC engines.

Would companies be wondering about it? I’m not specifying what companies do or don’t wonder about.

Would consumers worry about it? I’m not specifying either because that’s part of the fun, but you can find potential hints in the various reviews and the challenge brief for this round.

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is anyone even going to read this? I guess I'll just put a spaceship here (_)(_)=====D~~

The late 60’s; Planar doesn’t come to Araga?


The lore (aka my excuse for not doing Planar in ALC)

In the mid 60’s, P&A was in upheaval. Failed alliances and executive changes all culminated in a rebrand to Planar in 1965. In even more of an upheaval, however, was Planar’s Aragan division.

Following the Aragan government’s shock decision to replace ALL cars with newer, safer models come 1965, Planar was in a pickle. Aragan sales weren’t high enough to justify extensive re-engineering in-house while the company was in crisis, so they instead contracted Australian safety system manufacturer Minex to modify and sell their cars in Araga, thus introducing the Minex brand to the world at large.

Their initial cars were merely rebadged and modified P&A’s/Planars, but the company would soon grow to have its own styling cues.


The 1965 Minex Paceman M3 1500

Minex’s first car, the M3 Paceman was brought into Araga as a hire car. Being the P&A Paceman, it was essentially just a 1955 car modernised and brought up to safety standards, which left it as a cheap option that Minex felt was perfect for the hire market.

The interior was updated with newer materials and slightly more contemporary styling, with the intention that the car would be comfortable enough, but still cheap.

The engine, however, was where it was really cheapened. The Rotomax R4015 was very long in the tooth by 1965, and a measly 40kW from its 1500cc was never going to set the world on fire, but it was at least easy to access in the rear of the car!


The 1967 Minex Danazine F6H and F6L

The Minex Danazines, much like their Planar counterparts, were styling updates for the existing Sportsman Mk.III. The difference with the Minex examples, however, is the more advanced safety to satisfy Aragan design rules, as well as a mild tune to the engine giving it more performance.

A major difference in how Minex sold their cars, however, was that they wanted to be seen as a true luxury powerhouse from the start, so they imported the stretched F6L “Diplomatic Package” limousine as a regular car, complete with all their safety upgrades from the base car. All of their work resulted in a big price rise though, with the F6H costing $34,600 AMU, and the F6L a whopping $51,800 AMU!

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What do you mean exactly, I am confused. Also, this gives cars of over 3000cc extremely high tax rates. I assume this was intentional, but just checking.



Need to hire a car? Kinda hard to go wrong with an AMCW AeroCoupe GT.

A powerful 2.8 liter engine thrusts this car forward, while the sliding cloth top allows for a “convertible-like” experience while maintaining all the safety of a typical closed-roof coupe. It’s sleek and somewhat sporty, and it seats four people.

Whether it’s a pleasant Sunday drive, or a day of carving canyon corners, the AeroCoupe can do it all.

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This gives cars with a displacement over 3000 very high tax rates

There was a typo in the post; the displacement-3000 was supposed to be divided by 1000, to be a figure in litres. This has been corrected.

As for the waiver on new vehicle taxes, the displacement applied twice in ALC2 - the amount on the graph as an annual cost, and a multiple of that amount as an addition to the purchase cost. The latter part has been waived for this era, and displacement will not impact purchase cost (but will still impact annual cost).

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Thank you for clearing this up! By the way you’ve been a delightful host and I very much enjoy your reviews.

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