The track and screenshots are from 03/2015 that’s normal.
The screenshots were also taken with a 1000hp turbo, I would be surprised if anyone get even near 400km/h.
[quote=“AirJordan”]I have no problem with my car having just an intake grill 
EDIT: I made and tune a car according to rules that could be competitive and I can assure you that there is nothing remotely production with this car 
I am not sure that banning race stuff makes any sense if your only other limitation is cost
either way, if rules are here to stay, I have a car for the job (will try later with turbos also but I’m not that good with them)[/quote]
Seems I got a bitout of touch with developments.
I think is not a big deal and cars get 10% less power.
If the race takes place and there could be other ones, I will keep this in mind.
There is a problem. How is the total reliability calculated?
It seems it’s possible to build cars with 0 reliability for the engine, and still have the required reliability 
But I want cars to have 50 reliability for the engine and car.
I everyone agrees I will change the rules that both > 50
engines with 0 reliability makes no sense imo
aaaaaand here goes my half a second… oh well 
I dont want to spoil the comp with rule changes. Was that a bad idea?
I have no submissions, so just tell me what to do. We can have a lower reliability but the cars must be able to finish a certain number of laps.
A race would have 306 km, average reliability = 0.3 * 1000 km = 50% chance to fail
I hope it was also clear how I specified the cost limit. I mean the Total Expense per car, for a Tiny run. It can be found under Detail stats.
There is also total cost under “Overview”, but I dont know what that reflects.
Ok, I have the first entrant, thanks to Awildgermanappears!
The following detail leaked: his car is admiral blue!
Entries will be run in reverse order.
[quote=“BurningBridges”]I dont want to spoil the comp with rule changes. Was that a bad idea?
I have no submissions, so just tell me what to do. We can have a lower reliability but the cars must be able to finish a certain number of laps.
A race would have 306 km, average reliability = 0.3 * 1000 km = 50% chance to fail[/quote]
If your avrage reliability is 0 than you have 50% chance to fail? And the same just for the engine? I am sorry for so many same questions
Good question …
Average 50 means imo 50,000 mean kilometers to failure
chance to fail is = 1 - e ^ -(T/MTBF) (de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_Time … n_Failures)
T is 0,3 (race length = 300km)
if MTBF is 50, the resulting chance to fail is 0.01 = 1%
if MTBF is 0.3 it is actually 62%, not 50%
I think 1% is actually a good value, no one would expect his car to fail.
There seems to be no limit on Fuel Octane, Or Safety for that matter. Are either of these concerns?
No, not as far as i am concerned
I will not change anything now since there have been the first entries.
But some things I found while playing with my own concept car, there should be new rules for the next race
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Minimum Engine Cooling = Cooling required
This is simply, because cooling has an immense influence on the lap time, and I dont want the winner be decided by the cooling slider. -
What about turbos? First everyone demanded a handicap factor of 2:1, now everyone seems to enter with a N/A
Mission accomplished?
I tried a inline 4 turbo and ended up with barely 30% less hp than while being more heavy and unreliable.
If there is no evidence that a 1000cc turbo can even compete with the 2L engines, the handicap factor will be adjusted for the next race.
I suggest that everyone who wants to enter a larger turbo can, and will be run on their own.
At least that’s what I am gonna do, build a 1250 turbo to see if it can beat my NA car.
I would suggest 1250 cc as opposed to 1000. Thats a handicap of 1:1.6 instead of 1:2
This can be made use for very even numbers, the classes could be:
Have a look at Group B mate. The ratio is around 1.7/1 and seemed to be optimal.
Sounds all right.
Perhaps 1.666… that’s better to calculate.
The ability to simply upscale engines is gone either way, perhaps thats even better.
Are sports compound tires allowed or is it just hard long life tires?
Everything is allowed except semi slicks, and all quality sliders can be changed except one (tyres).
Group B is different and the handicap factor is so low that we would go back to where I started (I had 1:1.5 initially)
How about this for classes? The advantage is that the handicap rises for the larger engines.
hmm. i actually find the 1l vs 2l is rather ok.
im getting roughly the same peak output but much lower drivability, but also lighter engine with turbo, and vice versa with NA
I will listen, but only if you send me the first 1L Turbo car that is competitive 
So far everyone has just said Turbos should be penalized. So far I am unconvinced. Even with 0 reliability my own turbo is 30% weaker, the 2L car can go circles around it.
[quote=“koolkei”]hmm. i actually find the 1l vs 2l is rather ok.
im getting roughly the same peak output but much lower drivability, but also lighter engine with turbo, and vice versa with NA[/quote]
Same here!