Does this mean you’re going to manually demerit stuff that seems less daily-able due to a speedster config?
I was thinking of landau conversions etc. of car bodies which don’t have a convertible. It would not be automatic, more like a manual softtop or hardtop to put on when it rains…
I will accept it, there will be a penalization for that. Let me get back to this in a day or two and I’ll sort it out.
More or less. This’ll just be a consideration during the judging for being a speedster than having its own scaling, since it’s literally roofless as opposed to having a DIY or makeshift one.
UPDATE
@AndiD and anyone else looking to submit DIY roof chopped convertible conversions, I will manually demerit cars like these as adding one more variable to the calculator would just complicate it for a lot of other people trying to use it.
How I’ll distribute the penalizations:
Professional Quality Conversion: ≥+6 trim quality and ≥+2 interior quality
Amateur Quality Conversion: ≥+4 trim quality ≥+1 interior quality
Poor Quality Conversion: ≤+2 trim quality
*Subject to change
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Environmental Resistance:
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Professional: -10%
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Amateur: -20%
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Poor: -30%
- Comfort:
- Manual Soft Top:
- Professional: -15%
- Amateur: -20%
- Poor: -25%
- Manual Hard Top:
- Professional: -10%
- Amateur: -15%
- Poor: -20%
Complete Open Tops/Speedsters: Will be judged subjectively, since that’s a completely different niche of cars.
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Oni "lore"
Since this is technically the first post from this new company I have, I’ll introduce it a bit. Back in the 70s Zephorus was running into issues with producing all kinds of cars, how could it retain it’s prestige while making economy and commuter cars? Thus an offbranch was formed, to take care of all the lower prestige (and quality) cars, to allow Zephorus to keep producing sports and super cars.
ahem this should solve a lot of my issues of “Zephorus shitbox” that can’t really exist. Now they can!
For Sale: 1999 Oni Tachi 200 - Rare Classic Sports Car
Price: $18,677
Description:
Up for sale is a rare 1999 Oni Tachi 200, a stunning classic sports car that combines sleek design with thrilling performance. This hardly seen Oni is a head-turner, boasting a streamlined body and mid-engine layout that pays homage to the golden age of supercars. The story goes that Oni “borrowed” some engineers from Zephorus to attempt 200mph with 200hp, all while keeping fuel efficiency better than other sports cars of the time. A remarkable feat of engineering that was ahead of its time, unfortunately too expensive to mass produce.
Having test driven the car for the advertisement photos, it’s excellent on the twisty mountain roads and doesn’t hurt your wallet when you go to fill it up afterwards. Surprisingly practical, and no end of attention when you park it up.
Key Features:
- Engine: Torquey 2.0 inline 6 Turbo delivering 207 horsepower.
- Performance: 0-60 mph in just 4.66 seconds, with a top speed of over 200 mph.
- Economy: 60mpg+ (4.59L/100km) combined, even while driving spiritedly
- Transmission: 6-speed manual, perfect for driving enthusiasts.
- Condition: Well-maintained, with original paint and interior in excellent condition.
- Mileage: Low mileage for its age – only 35,000 miles.
- Ownership: Clean title, no accidents, and always garage kept.
Additional Details:
- Torque: 342 Nm peak, providing a responsive and thrilling driving experience.
- Weight: Near-perfectly distributed 742kgs at 44/56 balance for superior handling and cornering.
- Adjustable Suspension: Adaptive dampers to provide the best driving feel, no matter the situation.
- Rare Model: Limited production run, making this car a collector’s dream.
Special Features:
- Streamlined: Hidden headlight and windscreen washers. Flush handles, special gullwing doors and glass roofline. Detachable rear wheel aero covers.
- Luggage Space: Front & Rear storage space.
- Ultra lightweight: Complete fibreglass bodyshell, lightweight aluminium chassis, magnesium wheels and alcantara interior.
- Drag: A claimed 0.181Cd and 0.243m of frontal area.
If you’re looking for a classic sports car with timeless appeal and exhilarating performance, the Oni Tachi 200 is for you. Don’t miss out on this opportunity to own a piece of automotive history!
Contact Information:
- Message me for more details or to schedule a test drive.
- Serious inquiries only, please.
- I may give out the car file after the competition is done.
These cars are not a real product of any manufacturer, any likeness or other similarities to real brands is purely coincidence. Actual model may change in final submission.
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Reminds me a lot of the VW XL1 but better
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I’m thinking of entering something along the same lines, but with the focus more firmly on cornering and even lighter weight than outright top speed.
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Can you fix the post title to show that entries are now open?
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… and replace the deliberation countdown clock with a submission countdown clock…?
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The Tachi 200 is basically what the offspring of an Audi A2 and OG Honda Insight (minus the hybrid system, and with a more powerful engine) would’ve been if it weren’t just a hypermiler, but a hypermiling hypercar:
It goes to show that when it comes to vehicular dynamics, light weight will always trump raw power and grip every time - even in cars that aren’t dedicated performance cars.
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righto, here we go
omg hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 
do yoy like the CARS ?!?!?!? 
gereat news 
the two thousand and two (2002) YANGWOOOOOOOO RIBBIT SUCS (Street Utility Cabriolet Sports)
what a peculiar little car
and he is in MANY COLOR??!?!???!? wowoe
now he is FAR??? 
WAAHT??? basket 
faerme 
okay okay here's some actual lore (and also more pictures)
In 1999, the CEO of Yangwoo, John Yangwoo (pronounced the American way, Jjangwuhhh (with Texas accent)), started secretly putting crack cocaine in the car designers coffees. In 2000, the first sketch of the Ribbit SUCS was made. It only took two more years, and the Ribbit SUCS was unveiled. At the same time, the all new 2002 Ribbit was also unveiled at, uhh… The Yangwootown Motor Show. Despite Yangwoo being South Korean, Yangwootown is actually located in western Serbia.
Pictured above is the 2002 Yangwoo Ribbit, the regular model. Despite being called the Ribbit SUCS (Street Utility Cabriolet Sports in case you already forgot), it did not share any body parts with the regular Ribbit. In fact, they had nothing in common, not even the wheelbase.
The Ribbit had fairly successful production run, lasting from 2002 to 2007. The Ribbit SUCS on the other hand was only built for 2002 model year, they ended up producing total of 12,847 units. The Ribbit SUCS was only offered with 1L engine and CVT transmission. You had a whole bunch of different color choices though.
You couldn’t choose the body color, psh, that’d be stupid! Or the bumper color, those were gray plastic. In order to keep the weight and costs down. However you could change the hood and door color! There were plenty of exciting colours, like uhh… I don’t know, yellow or something.
But Hilbert, what if it rains? Won’t my valuable groceries get wet? No no no, of course not! There was a manually retractable soft top over the front seats, and a removable aluminum canopy for the rear. Color coded, naturally.
The lower, white part opened like a regular car door. But the yellow part with the window opened upwards like a traditional car trunk.
The spare wheel.
Moving on.
We have now moved on.
End of everything.
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It definitely takes talent to make a car Pluriel-like, but even more unhinged. Who else could succeed in that? 
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That’s the most accurate description of FB marketplace I have ever seen. Unironically.
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2000 AVG E70
Ah yes. AVG. Those French guys who cant make a reasonable car, even if they tried.
One day the executives woke up and wondered.
“What if we made a luxury car disguised as a shitbox which also happens to be classified as a sports car?”
Well this… Horrible… Whatever it is. Hellspawn? Demon? I guess its a car. Is the result.
This absolutely horrible disgusting hellspawn called the AVG E70 is the creation of the designers at AVG, trying to make something that combines luxury, sports, and a cute vibe. It clearly does not succeed in any of these.
Underneath the car is quite special, if not really able to be considered a sports car. Who came up with the classification for this car? They should be fired.
Anyways. It happens that besides being a delux-sport-cute-shitbox they also wanted to reach an unnecessary fuel economy.
Which leads to the extremely sad and depressed 660CC Inline 3, producing a grand total of 56 horsepower on 91 RON Fuel.
It has all the goodies though, including VVL and Direct Injection, to keep it advanced. Have fun repairing it though.
This “engine” (might as well push it) sends it power to the front wheels using a CBT CVT gearbox, another one of the goodies of this car.
Performance specs are far from anything special and definitely not a “sports car”.
0-100kmh is hit in 13.1 seconds, and the car can hit a dangerously fast 194kmh. No one knows how they hit this speed but it is assumed this was achieved by dropping it off a cliff, which is deserved.
Past the performance, it has all the good interior and driving bits. Premium Seats, Premium SatNav, Active Suspension, Electronic Stability Control, Advanced Safety, the whole shbang.
This leads to the car being quite nice to drive (90 Drivability) and quite comfortable (58 Comfort), and it was praised when it came out for these things, especially considering its small size and it having 5 seats.
The thing most praised originally was the staggering US MPG of 75.9. In a “conventional” car this is quite impressive, even though it is most definitely not the most available. It is in a nice package though. And sports car according to the designers.
Now here’s the problem. Why would you want this? If you want a car that is just a family runabout, you buy something normal. If you want a sports car, you buy a sports car. If you want a luxury car, you buy a luxury car. If you want a cute car, you buy a Yangwoo. If you want nonsense you buy a BetterDeals.
All of this leads to this car being not good at anything specific, and it not being made clear why it exists. Especially since it looks like a crushed egg which someone attempted to put back together.
This makes the car especially undesirable, considering the stupid original dealer price of 29 THOUSAND DOLLARS.
Unsurprisingly, the car sold terribly. Only a few thousand were sold, as the car was both expensive to produce and expensive to buy.
This means they show up rarely online, due to their rarity.
Luckily for you, this used model is being sold for $9889! god forbid i get binned by being a few dollars off again
NOTE: I absolutely hate this car and it was painful to make.
Oh and a race version.
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2005 KMA K310 XL and XLC
Driving enjoyment and fuel economy are normally mutually exclusive, but the K310 was built to prove otherwise. Two versions were built: the XL (right) and XLC (left).
The XL’s mid-mounted 100bhp 1.0L naturally aspirated inline-three drove the rear wheels via a five-speed manual gearbox and viscous LSD. Combined with its lightweight all-carbon construction, this was enough to send it to 60 mph from a standstill in 5.7 seconds, with a top speed of 156 mph. Moreover, its miniscule kerb weight of 575kg (achieved through use of smaller disc brakes and forged magnesium wheels) gave it surprisingly good handling and braking, despite using a bespoke compound of economy-focused tires.
With this tire compound, the XL trim could return 75 US mpg on the combined cycle, a figure aided by heavy use of streamlining and an aerodynamically shaped flat floor. Most impressively of all, it still came with airbags, a CD player, and a full set of driving aids, but some members of the project team believed even the base XL was too soft, as light as it was, so the XLC (the C standing for Competition) was born. The unassisted steering remained untouched, but the suspension (still by pushrod-actuated dual wishbones at each wheel) was given a sportier tune, and a six-speed manual transmission was fitted alongside a helical LSD in place of the standard viscous unit and 5-speed gearbox… In addition, the engine gained 10 horsepower - not a lot in absolute terms, but punchy in such a light car.
More significantly, the XLC went on an extensive weight loss routine, shedding the sound system, ABS, driver aids, and (optionally) the CD stereo, saving 60kg in the process. Switching to carbon-ceramic brakes also helped, but remarkably, the K310’s fuel economy wasn’t too severely reduced, with the XLC’s figure of 66.6 still being superior to most of its rivals. The 0-60 sprint now took 4.9 seconds, with the top speed increasing to over 160 mph - but this missed the point of the K310, which still lived for the corners, and attacked them with even more vigor to boot.
All this engineering excellence, however, came at a price, with the base model starting from $50,000 AMU in period, and the XLC adding another $7,000 AMU to that price (for an all-up price of $57,000). As such, production only lasted until 2010, and even then, it continued at a snail’s pace, with 1,000 examples (split 50/50 between the base XL and sportier XLC) being built over five years.
Although the K310 XL shown here is not (yet) for sale (and rightly so - it’s unlikely that anyone will even want to sell such a clever piece of engineering), the K310 XLC next to it most definitely is - it’s currently being listed for $19,104 AMU. Having covered only 15,000 miles since leaving the production line, it has a full one-owner service history containing very few (and minor) mechanical issues, with no faults whatsoever, and no signs of paintwork or bodywork damage. It may not be the fastest of its kind, but it’s one of the lightest and most frugal - qualities that will help it outlast heavier opposition on many race tracks, and then outsmart them on the roads, time and time again.
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Seeing the entries so far, by now I’m tempted to put an idiotically large engine into something not even looking sporty. You know what, I actually have a car somewhat fitting this exact description 
Loudmobile?
For Sale: 1992 Solara NXW Concept
This station wagon concept by Van Zandt dates to an era when the future of family transportation was less certain and SUVs were far less ubiquitous. Van Zandt put a few of these on the trade room floors at the time, teasing a future lineup that never quite materialized.
Titled the Solara NXW, the NeXt Wagon concept is more retro-futuro nowadays, but the Solara nameplate and plethora of window action at least speak to the history of solarium family movers in the 50s and 60s. Parts of the design are rooted in its time, but hints of future trends show through as well.
The idea was to be a daily family driver that met practical and efficiency goalposts to beat out larger competitors like minivans and SUVs. What it lacked was the moment in time to win that fight in the domestic market. Nothing became of the Solara, but the engineering advances made their way into later models, especially the Cruzero and Avant lines.
This example might just be one-of-a-kind in the year 2024. It’s not clear how many were preserved for posterity. It’s quite a functional vehicle nevertheless. The model was fairly developed before it was scrapped, so it’s not exactly a tech demo, more like a production vehicle and roadworthy still today.
Seeking a good home for this fun and weird wagon - $6,168 minimum offer
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1996 Pittsburgh Callahan Type S Maxi - $16,695
Location: Asheville, NC.
Price: $16,695
Condition: Excellent
Title Status: Rebuilt
Drive: FWD
Fuel: Gas
Transmission: 6 speed manual
Up for sale is this Ex-WRC Callahan, originally ran by M-Power Rally for Pittsburgh Europe for the FIA 2 Liter class.
This particular example has had a solid career in WRC and later ERC, NACAM, and ARA events.
The car has been restored to WRC spec, and shows no sign of rust on the body panels and chassis. It is also fully road legal in the US and Canada, which is a requirement for running road rallies at all.
This car has new brakes, new shocks, new control arms, a replacement brake light, and is currently equipped with street legal Duchemin Apex Sport tires. The cup holders, however, were installed by the original owners.
Does not come with beer, but rally tires can be thrown in for another $2k.
This is an excellent choice for someone starting out in rallying, or wants a road legal race car that isn’t a pain to live with.
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2002 Billancourt Cité Beach Car
Based on the Billancourt Cité MK1, Italian coachbuilder Della Costa creates a fun and interesting beach runabout, based on the idea of the Jolly cars of old. The roof and doors are completely removed, with only a canopy available for outdoor storage, but not for driving. A tubular structure is installed to reinforce the body and prevent flexing.
Only 105 are known to have been built – this particular example comes with the Billancourt Sport 1.4 litre, 16-valve engine making 115 hp, and is finished in gloss Hyena Orange with contrasting light grey plastic trim, as well as a matching interior.
The body and chassis are in pristine condition, though it presents some light mechanical wear and tear, it is generally reliable and hasn’t had any major issues. It is very economical and cheap to run and service.
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