CTC - Car Tycoon Challenge #4 - 1977 [RESULTS]

are any mods permitted, Martin?

Graphic mods are okay, yes. I try to keep my game up to date :slight_smile:

[quote=ā€œDer Bayerā€]

Tech Pool is ā€œfree Qualityā€, like you have in some scenarios. You could edit the .lua file and give yourself some free quality, but thatā€™s cheating. Use of quality is fine of course.[/quote]

I see. Thanks for clarifying.

no scorecalc sheat this time?

How are we sending the cars? The .lua file is our name? Where do we type the carā€™s name?

Errā€¦ yes, there is. Second point in the ā€œHow do you participateā€ list.

First point in the ā€œHow do you participateā€ list: ā€œBuild a car in Automation (with the right manufacture year 1977) and save it with your nickname as as car name (attach a ā€œ2ā€ to you second car, e.g. ā€œnickname2ā€).ā€ Same for the .txt file.

Itā€™s all in the same file, you should have pages listed at the bottom. You can switch to calculator sheet there.

BTW is it just me or is it particularly hard to score high (compared to other groups) in mid sport? Whatever improvements I make my buyer score barely improves there, meanwhile trackday, GT and supercar gain whole bunch of points. Even slashing my price to completely unsustainable levels doesnā€™t seem to do all that much to improve MS group score so itā€™s not like Iā€™m overpricing it. Honestly Iā€™m scoring better in L$$$ than in MS. Even my family car with barely any sportiness is only few points behind, even at same price! I must be doing something wrong I guess.

In Mid Sport you need a pretty balanced car, so it is a bit harder to get high scores, especially because you have to find a good compromise between tameness and sportiness. But the absolute numbers donā€™t mean anything at all, just the differences to the competition.

Hmm two cars per player, now that opens a lot of possibilities. Decisions decisionsā€¦

And just to be sure following the debate about tech, is it ok to unlock better options by using higher quality, of course all legitimely in game? I recall some options can be unlocked with quality and some only with year.

[quote=ā€œxwingā€]Hmm two cars per player, now that opens a lot of possibilities. Decisions decisionsā€¦

And just to be sure following the debate about tech, is it ok to unlock better options by using higher quality, of course all legitimely in game? I recall some options can be unlocked with quality and some only with year.[/quote]

Quality is fine, techpool is not.

The reason I brought up the point is that with the current version of the game, the only way you should be able to get techpool is through lua file editing. However, I found a way of getting techpool without lua file editing which someone could very easily do by mistake and end up unknowingly getting their car banned.

I get that, my car is actually fairly balanced. Itā€™s not a race car with sub 10 comfort or something like that. Thing is making it more balanced across the board (like adding luxury interior (out of all things), putting quality into safety, improving prestige in general) improves other groups much more than the group I actually aim at and not to mention this stuff isnā€™t exactly free, it becomes rather pointless improvement if I simply price myself out of the target group. Tameness/sportiness balance seems pretty good, exchanging one for another doesnā€™t really change my score in MS. Iā€™m just trying to figure out if Iā€™m doing something wrong or if is this particular group simply scoring lower compared to other groups in general (then again Iā€™d expect difference between this and sub 10 sportiness family car to be little bit bigger). I guess I could also check if I didnā€™t somehow mess up my calculation sheet by accident.

From what I see in the current entries, scores are not significantly lower in that category. You must be doing something wrong then. :stuck_out_tongue: :wink:
Maybe in the future Iā€™ll increase the weigt on sportiness a bit more, but letā€™s see how the results turn out in this round.

And of course the scoring point scheme in the spreadsheet has changed so much since the last version that itā€™s difficult for me to tell if Iā€™m making something right.

I mean, I have an inklingā€¦ but thatā€™s about it. :laughing:

(and thatā€™s half the fun. Will this work, or will this crash and burn?)

[quote=ā€œReaper392ā€]

[quote=ā€œxwingā€]Hmm two cars per player, now that opens a lot of possibilities. Decisions decisionsā€¦

And just to be sure following the debate about tech, is it ok to unlock better options by using higher quality, of course all legitimely in game? I recall some options can be unlocked with quality and some only with year.[/quote]

Quality is fine, techpool is not.

The reason I brought up the point is that with the current version of the game, the only way you should be able to get techpool is through lua file editing. However, I found a way of getting techpool without lua file editing which someone could very easily do by mistake and end up unknowingly getting their car banned.[/quote]

Iā€™m fairly sure I could get better profile tyres in the first ctc challenge just by increasing quality without ever touching the year, not sure about other thigs as I donā€™t have access to the game right now. But I would consider getting new options this way legit, thatā€™s why Iā€™m asking.

Here are my two entries for CTC4

Entry 1
In 1976 MGCC face lifted their 1973 Mirage Model with a new look grill, revised front and rear lighting, , flush door handles, new interior designs and a refreshed engine range.
For MY1977 their highest trim level was re-introduced, the ā€œSuper-6ā€ featuring a revised 6 Cylinder engine as denoted by the trim name.


Entry 2
MGCC introduced the Mark II Angio. This was an all new design which carried over nothing from its predecessor but sported the new family look introduced on the '76 Mirage as well as some of itā€™s own ā€˜quirkyā€™ styling.
The 1.2s is aimed at the budget conscious, but not limited, driver and slotted in above the lower spec 1.0e


Iā€™m all entered in this comp as of nowā€¦

But Iā€™ll keep my cars secret so you get a bigger ( or lesser :laughing: ) shock on reveal day! :sunglasses:

Fingers crossed I actually make money this time :unamused:

Made a bunch of candidates, donā€™t know which of the two Iā€™ll pick yet. Showing them off anyway. All are loosely based on real life cars, my usual M.O. :stuck_out_tongue: Like Grand Theft Auto, the names are parodies of their real-life counterparts.




Itā€™s time for Ardent Motors to put forth its entries.

First, we have the Ardent Olympic.


Ardent brings a personal touch to luxury with the Olympic. Propelled by a buttery smooth yet powerful TB8-D-GT Taurus V8, this premium coupe is ready to carve up winding roads by day and soak up the limelight when it hits the town. That is, if you feel so inclined to stop in town. With a remarkably quiet, supple ride provided by Ardentā€™s engineers, and standard features such as a digitally tuned AM/FM/Cassette radio with 12 presets and equalizer, leather sport-back bucket seats, air conditioning, and an automatic transmission, you may find the journey to be the worthier part of your adventure. Your dreams are at your fingertips. You just need to reach out. When choosing your next vehicle, be more than savvy. Be Ardent.

Then thereā€™s the Ardent Piper SE.


So much more than 2 doors. Thereā€™s a new bird in town for 1977, joining the 2-door Piper sedan. Ardentā€™s new hatchback body gives you more versatility than before. Rear seat passengers will appreciate the enhanced head room, while the driver will enjoy a smooth, even ride. Motivated by the same tried-and-true squarebore CA4-A 4-cylinder Cygnus-series motor, you wonā€™t have to worry about breaking the bank at the pump. Or the garage. Also new for 1977 is a new top-of-the-line SE trim. It includes all of the same standard safety and comfort features of the DL, plus a tachometer, in-dash clock, AM/FM/Cassette radio, and more. Truly, this makes the Piper SE to be the whole package. And more. So when choosing your next vehicle, be more than wise. Be Ardent.

[quote=ā€œxwingā€]

Quality is fine, techpool is not.

The reason I brought up the point is that with the current version of the game, the only way you should be able to get techpool is through lua file editing. However, I found a way of getting techpool without lua file editing which someone could very easily do by mistake and end up unknowingly getting their car banned.

Iā€™m fairly sure I could get better profile tyres in the first ctc challenge just by increasing quality without ever touching the year, not sure about other thigs as I donā€™t have access to the game right now. But I would consider getting new options this way legit, thatā€™s why Iā€™m asking.[/quote]

Yes you can get lower profile tyres by increasing the quality. As far as Iā€™m aware this is OK

There is another bug with this though. You have to increase the quality of the tyres by 4 to ā€˜unlockā€™ the next lowest tyre profile. However, if you then reduce the quality back down to three or even two you keep this lower profile tyre. Increasing the quality from two to three removes the low profile tyres again. Iā€™ve not explained it very well so if youā€™re confused just watch the minimum tyre profile as you increase it from 0-4, then decrease to 2, then increase to 3.

[quote=ā€œReaper392ā€]

[quote=ā€œxwingā€]

Iā€™m fairly sure I could get better profile tyres in the first ctc challenge just by increasing quality without ever touching the year, not sure about other thigs as I donā€™t have access to the game right now. But I would consider getting new options this way legit, thatā€™s why Iā€™m asking.

Yes you can get lower profile tyres by increasing the quality. As far as Iā€™m aware this is OK

There is another bug with this though. You have to increase the quality of the tyres by 4 to ā€˜unlockā€™ the next lowest tyre profile. However, if you then reduce the quality back down to three or even two you keep this lower profile tyre. Increasing the quality from two to three removes the low profile tyres again. Iā€™ve not explained it very well so if youā€™re confused just watch the minimum tyre profile as you increase it from 0-4, then decrease to 2, then increase to 3.[/quote]

This is already monitored by Der Bayer iirc, his anti-cheat script looks for this sort of ā€œfree techpoolā€, or atleast as far as I understood.