Erin and ErinSport - Historical Thread ['62 Erin Ghaleda]

It was very cheap in markets outside the West (although maybe some fringe areas like Scandinavia, Australia, NZ and possible the UK come to think of it but only extremely limited numbers which would have been more a compeditor to the Nasaro.)

Once it arrived proper it was given a mild facelift, new engine and loaded up as a premium car but by then it would be looking a bit long in the tooth and facing the brand new Scarlet!

Awesome, twin popup headlights definitely suit that design. Although you could also go the NSX style if you wanted rectangular but still circular style.

Well, now Iā€™m really curious to see the Mk 2 Scarlet revealed!

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Ah, you shall have to wait. Still deciding on what sort of headlights the Mk 2 should have anyway :wink:

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Since thereā€™s a gap in 1986 for Cavallera I might as well create a competitor :yum:
ā€¦buuuut it wonā€™t happen until UE.

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@ramthecowy I look forward to it! And donā€™t worry, everything will be getting a makeover in UE4 anyway.

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1 Visto CSB Edition please! I like zippy small hatches.

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So, you wanted to see the competition, and here it is :slight_smile: (although I should have made the less powerful 2.7 trim maybe)

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Is it a Rally Car though?

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@szafirowy01 Iā€™ve left my comments on your main thread, this gets my approval for competition :wink:

@Awildgermanappears Well I mean the Scarlet never entered into rallying, but I like the idea of a rally-origins rival

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I reckon that the Albury Crusader Mk1 could be a legitimate rival to the Scarlet Mk 1. It was introduced a full year before the original Scarlet came out, after allā€¦

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@abg7 Yeah, with those specs, they were certain to rival one another. The Scarlet is lighter, the but the Crusader is more comfortable

I should ask, would the MBS Fenice be worthy competition for the Scarlet Mk 2?

Oooh, I should think so. And soon enough weā€™ll be able to find out just how goodā€¦

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How is that happening?

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Well Iā€™m gonna release the Mk 2 of course!

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OH YES :cold_sweat:

#1991 Erin Scarlet (Mk 2)
I think this might be the most requested car Iā€™ve ever made. 3 entire people have asked when I was going to release thing so far. Three!


Overview
1991 saw the original Scarlet end production and a new one replace it, marking the beginning of Erinā€™s 90s rennaissance. In the 5 years since it debuted, however, a lot had changed - a wave of new Japanese rivals challenged its position in the sports car hierachy and its arch nemesis the 911 was better than ever.

Erin responded with what was essentially an evolution of the original car that improved in multiple ways and turned the Scarlet into a true high-end sports car.

Design and Styling
From the outside, the Mk 2 was very similar to its predessor, but donā€™t let that fool you. The front was tidied up, more distinguishing features like side vents flared wheel arches were added to the sportier X trim and, underneath, the car had been completley reworked. Various steel alloys developed from the Group C Development Program made there way onto the chassis of this car, while computers were utilised once more to improve on the sleek, aerodynamic shape.

The result a reworked version of the original that was cleaner on the outside and more advanced underneath. That said, there was one distinguishing feature: the strip rear light. Itā€™s the only car in Erinā€™s history to have such a feature.

Detail shot showing some of the extra fixtures found on the X trim

Power and Performance
The entry-level Lex trimā€™s 3.0l i6 (formerly the S trim) was replaced by the 2nd Gen 3.3l V6, a new version of the legendary engine that powered the Nasaro X, while on the X trim, another legend was born: Erinā€™s 3.8l V8. It would see service on the Mk 2 and Mk 3 Scarlets, as well many of the race versions that competed in the 90s, and was recently redesigned for the Mk 4 Scarlet.

Producing 296 hp, it rocketed the car from 0-60 in 4.8 seconds and could push it all the way up to 170 mph - the only 911ā€™s that could keep up with that were the turbo charged models. Whatā€™s more, the X trim was 50kg lighter than the Lex trim, and was far sharper than the previous model. The Mk 2 X is often seen as the sharpest of all the Scarletā€™s as a result; it was a car that truly rewarded being pushed to the limit.

The original 3.8l V8

Results
The Mk 2 was well received by the automotive press, with its only real criticism stemming from it being harder to drive than the previous generation. Despite this increased difficulty, it sold almost 20% more than the Mk 1 in the same 5 year period.

Its biggest impact, however, didnā€™t come from the road going version. It came from the race version.

Finally, in 1992, after over 15 years, Erin re-entered GT car racing properly with a homologated 2 door coupe. It would be the start of the career of Erinā€™s most successful GT racer, beginning over in America in the IMSA Supercar and IMSA GTU series before making its Le Mans debut in 1993 and pushing the 911 rivalry to its max in 1994 with the start of the BPR Global Endurance Series.

Thereā€™ll be more on this later, see end of post.


Specs and Stats
Lex Trim - No longer a GT-esque trim, but rather a soft-sports car. Balances comfort with performance in sublime fashion.
$22680
~$41700 in 2016

X Trim - Everything you could ever ask for in a sports car - sharp, powerful and exceptional to drive.
$29760
~$54750 in 2016



There we have it then! The Mk 2 has finally been released. Been waiting to release this car for well over a year and a half, just never got round to itā€¦

As for the ErinSport/GT versions of this car, Iā€™ll be doing a full post on the history of the Scarlet in GT racing, tracking it through the 90s and early 2000s. Iā€™ve got quite a lot of things to incorporate into that post so that wonā€™t be for a little while, at least until Geneva is finished (do come along please if you havenā€™t already shown interest!)

Comments, critique, complaints, constraints, constitutions, constituents, constabularies and Confucianism theories are all welcome! And as before, please post/link any rivals to this car :smiley:

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Hurrah! The Scarlet Mk 2 has been revealed! Looks absolutely great as a high end sports car. I doubt that the MBS Fenice would ever be able to compete with thisā€¦unless you want to take it to a rally course :smiling_imp:

The post might be a bit longā€¦might (the rally spec of the Fenice is at the bottom)

http://discourse.automationgame.com/t/oam-eadc-mbs-rally-years/18572/95?u=dorifto_dorito

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Well, I can name one rival to the Erin Scarlet, at least to some degree. Theyā€™re not 100% in the same class, but First meets Last in a duel of engines. Erinā€™s debut of the 3.8L V8 against Stormā€™s finale for the old Cast Iron 6L V8.

(Yes, I did open the game to get the modern stats, so compared to the ā€˜oldā€™ MK2 Envy, there will be some discrepancies based on the fact that some balancing has happened between then and now.)

Sure, the 10.5 US MPG is appalling in comparison, butā€¦ the Envy MK2 boasts 532 horsepower from a twin-turbocharged 6 liter V8, all cast iron. It was the car that showed us that we had to innovate or die, because technology was marching forward, and our engine was an anchor to the past.

It appears, other than a few odd stats, that the Envy splits the trim-lines. Itā€™s less drivable overall, but thatā€™s 6L of turbo-V8 talking. Flipside is that itā€™s sporty, surprisingly comfortable, can do 193 mph despite her all-steel construction (Corrosion Resistant both in chassis and panels), and while it sold for $31,050 @50%, it appeared a year earlier (1990). Also, the Envy only came in SymTrak AWD. Unfortunately, the weight combined with the Envyā€™s power makes for a thirsty car.

Rival? Maybe, but more likely a slightly different class rival than expected.

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@Dorifto_Dorito Iā€™m fairly sure the Fenice would certainly be a competitor to the Lex trim, if not both. That could change if MBS ever made a road-going homolgation specialā€¦ :smirk:

@Madrias The Envy Mk2 almost seems to be more of a muscle car than sports car, but that doesnā€™t mean they couldnā€™t be rivals, especially with 500+hp under the bonnet! I think itā€™d be a classic case of American v European (I think Storm are American? Correct me if Iā€™m wrong!)

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Sadly we never didā€¦but hey theres the 1985 MBS Vole MkIII homologation special :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: