[quote=“strop”]I did think about the safety, and in the end, prisoner’s dilemma won.
Given that this is a competitive challenge, I could safely bet that the majority of people would want to maximise their competitive edge by saving on weight where it was not specified necessary. Safety, while in a real world setting is important, was not specified as a factor in this simulated world, therefore I could also bet that most other people would also think the same way and ultimately choose not to add any safety measures. From that point of view I’m surprised that anybody selected it at all.
Also it would have been rather unfair not to specify something and then include it as a factor in the game mechanic. It creates a lot of drama precisely because this is a competitive event! (You should have seen what happened in the first major tournament, when the host belatedly learnt about how the aero fixtures worked and had to change the rules 2 days before deadline…)[/quote]
Basically, I won’t give out any penalties for low safety if the majority selected ‘‘None’’ Safety. And by the looks of it, the majority have chosen no safety. So don’t worry about penalties.
Yeah, I’m not exactly sure what the challenge is based on… I kinda just read through the inital post and signed up as there was next to no time left.
Are you basing it on lap times?
Yeah, I’m not exactly sure what the challenge is based on… I kinda just read through the inital post and signed up as there was next to no time left.
Are you basing it on lap times?[/quote]
It is based on many factors, for example: Weight of the car, top speed, economy, MTBF, and some other factors.
[quote=“Hallowenman”][size=150]– New Entry Registered –[/size]
The Automation Endurance Challenge - Entry Name of your team:infiniti racing Name of team members:harizvet1 Class(es):GT2[/quote]
Just put the files into the game, and the game won’t start. Removed the files, the game starts. So the files for Infiniti Racing doesn’t work. Anyone experienced this before?
I vote we change the title to Automation Death Race as my company and maybe others chose to offer the driver’s position to death row inmates to save on the weight of any safety features what-so-ever, and the cost of hiring an actual race driver.
[quote=“Microwave”]Oh, ok.
Are the final results only going to be 1st, 2nd and 3rd?[/quote]
Nope, I will try to make a beautiful result list for each class! (Can’t promise a beautiful results list… but there will be a list showing everyones result and position)
Most of the files I recieved looks like this: Downloaded a WinRAR Zip file with all the files in it. Inside there is a folder for each class, for example: (GT1) (GT2) (Protoype) with three folders inside called: (Engine) (Model) (Platform). Some just sent me files, not explaining which files is the model file, which one is the platform file and whichone is the engine file. This might be the reason for why I can’t get harizvet1’s files to work (because I might have placed the min the wrong folders), but if not, then there still is a problem with some of the files.
Platforms are named like this: Exapmle Platform Rev 1.lua
Models are named like this: Example Model Rev1.lua
Engines are named like this: Example EngineRev1.lua
[quote=“Pleb”]Platforms are named like this: Exapmle Platform Rev 1.lua
Models are named like this: Example Model Rev1.lua
Engines are named like this: Example EngineRev1.lua
(I’m 90% sure )[/quote]
I think thats correct, and I think thats how I placed the files aswell. I checked the log file after the game didn’t start. It said:
Can’t get the valve count, if we don’t have a head set
Can’t get VVT parts, if we don’t have a head set
Can’t get VVT parts, if we don’t have a head set
Can’t get the fuelSystem, if we don’t have the fuel system type set
Can’t get the fuel system config, if we don’t have a block set
Can’t get the aspiration parts, if we don’t have the aspiration type yet Can’t get the valve count, if we don’t have a head set
Can’t get VVT parts, if we don’t have a head set
Can’t get VVT parts, if we don’t have a head set
Can’t get the fuelSystem, if we don’t have the fuel system type set
Can’t get the fuel system config, if we don’t have a block set
Can’t get the aspiration parts, if we don’t have the aspiration type yet
Can’t get the aspiration options, if we don’t have the aspiration type yet
Can’t get the valve count, if we don’t have a head set
Can’t get VVT parts, if we don’t have a head set
Can’t get VVT parts, if we don’t have a head set
Can’t get the fuelSystem, if we don’t have the fuel system type set
Can’t get the fuel system config, if we don’t have a fuel system set
Can’t get the aspiration parts, if we don’t have the aspiration type yet
Can’t get the aspiration options, if we don’t have the aspiration type yet
Can’t get the aspiration options, if we don’t have the aspiration type yet
Yup, that definitely looks like you’ve misplaced them.
Are you gonna delete all the files after this is done? You’re gonna have a hell of a lot of new cars and engines.
[quote=“Microwave”]Yup, that definitely looks like you’ve misplaced them.
Are you gonna delete all the files after this is done? You’re gonna have a hell of a lot of new cars and engines.[/quote]
Yes I am deleting them from my game folder (I saved all of them in a seperate folder before all entries were registered).
But it is easy: I simply add one engine, model and platform at the time. So basically I just add the files for one car at the time, launch the game, write down all information I need,
close the game, remove the files, add the next car, and so on. This might take some time to go through, but no mess in my game folders
Advanced safety in racing cars, you have to be kidding me right? When was the last time you saw airbags in a race car? The only thing they have is a rollcage and suitable safety belts. Hell, nowadays rollcages are even being replaced in prototypes by the carbon fibre monocoque having a strong enough roof to withstand rolling over.
Ok, besides for that rage, my apologies for putting all the categories in the same engine/platform/model folders, I thought it’d be easier like that since it only requires one extraction to get all 3 cars in your game.
You can do that, my untamed racing driver (that Dragawn has some rather appropriate concerns about, if you read his profile) has no sense of self preservation whatsoever
[quote=“Dragawn”]Advanced safety in racing cars, you have to be kidding me right? When was the last time you saw airbags in a race car? The only thing they have is a rollcage and suitable safety belts. Hell, nowadays rollcages are even being replaced in prototypes by the carbon fibre monocoque having a strong enough roof to withstand rolling over.
Ok, besides for that rage, my apologies for putting all the categories in the same engine/platform/model folders, I thought it’d be easier like that since it only requires one extraction to get all 3 cars in your game.[/quote]
hans devices, the isolated driver cell designed into the monocoque, isolated double walled fuel cell, in some forms of racing there are separate front and read crumple zones. These are just the few I can think off hand, advanced safety doesn’t have to just mean airbags. even the 24 hours of LeMons has a safety checklist that you have to install.
[quote=“Dragawn”]Advanced safety in racing cars, you have to be kidding me right? When was the last time you saw airbags in a race car? The only thing they have is a rollcage and suitable safety belts. Hell, nowadays rollcages are even being replaced in prototypes by the carbon fibre monocoque having a strong enough roof to withstand rolling over.
Ok, besides for that rage, my apologies for putting all the categories in the same engine/platform/model folders, I thought it’d be easier like that since it only requires one extraction to get all 3 cars in your game.[/quote]
hans devices, the isolated driver cell designed into the monocoque, isolated double walled fuel cell, in some forms of racing there are separate front and read crumple zones. These are just the few I can think off hand, advanced safety doesn’t have to just mean airbags. even the 24 hours of LeMons has a safety checklist that you have to install.[/quote]
That is correct. Advanced safety isn’t just airbags. When it comes to racing it can be different things.
Edit: But as I said: Don’t worry about penalties, no one will get one, as the majority has chosen ‘‘None’’ at safety. It won’t be fair to penalise the majority of the field for low safety when it wasn’t a criteria for your cars.
They have special safety features yes, but most don’t add significant weight, except for automated fire extinguishers, and maybe the material for the firewall, all have been enforced by the race organisations though, racing teams who voluntary install more are pretty rare, since it requires extra budget and these few extra kilos that can make the difference. As for crumple zones, I’m not sure where they’re put in this game, automatically era correct chassis or indeed at the safety options. For a normal head-on collision I’d take a stock Volvo above a racecar any time of the day though, but racing cars indeed have more roll and fire protection, which is needed in their specific use.
I’m curious how to stimulate that for future series though, standard seems about right weight wise to me considering the rollcage, but racecars are more stripped out than any road car…
On the note of specific weights, in the coming release, I think you’ll be able to see exactly how much weight each interior/safety/insulation component contributes to the car and how the quality and specification affects this, as well as production and material costs. It has also been rebalanced significantly… I was pleasantly surprised just how little the advanced safety really weighed, and it seems relatively commensurate! So in future challenges of this nature, I expect it will be easier to set limits and include safety protocols where required.
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