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Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 01:37

236P23

Production years: 1949 through 1965
Shared specs:

Pushrod inline 6, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 72mm
Stroke: 94.4mm
Displacement: 2306cc

Cars used in:

1949-1960 Foreia mk1
1960-1974 Foreia mk2 (pre-facelift only, 233L trims only)

Ce2 (1949-1960)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 6.6:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin Single barrel eco carb
4700rpm redline
Leaded 92
Cast log exhaust header
Two baffled mufflers

Used in: 1949-1960 Mk1 Foreia 232

Ce3 (1949-1960)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 6.9:1
Naturally aspirated
Triple Single barrel eco carb
4800rpm redline
Leaded 92
Short cast exhaust header
Two baffled mufflers

Used in: 1949-1960 mk1 Foreia 233L

C4 (1949-1960)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.0:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin two barrel carb
5000rpm redline
Leaded 92
Tubular exhaust header
Two baffled mufflers

Used in: 1949-1960 mk1 Foreia 234C / 234D

Ce3-92 (1960-1965)

(for 92hp, no change in technology worth mentioning)
Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.0:1
Naturally aspirated
Triple single barrel eco carb
5200rpm redline
Leaded 92
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in: 1960-1965 Mk2 Foreia 233L

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 09:49

154P15

Production years: 1955 through 1975
Shared specs:

Pushrod inline 4, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 72mm
Stroke: 94.4mm
Displacement: 1537cc

Cars used in:

1955-1965 Mesaia mk1
1960-1974 Foreia mk2 (pre-facelift only, 152 only)
1965-1975 Mesaia mk2

Ce2 (1955-1965)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.1:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin single barrel eco carb
5000rpm redline
Leaded 92
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in: 1955-1965 mk1 Mesaia 152L

Ce2U (1965-1975)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.1:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin single barrel eco carb
5400rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in: 1965-1975 mk2 Mesaia 152M / Gendarmerie special order

Ce2-65 (1960-1965)

(for 65hp, extra punch needed for the weight of the car)
Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Heavy duty forged rods, Forged pistons
Compression ratio: 7.4:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin single barrel eco carb
5400rpm redline
Leaded 92
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in: 1960-1965 mk2 Foreia 152

DC2 (1960-1965)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Heavy duty forged rods, Forged pistons
Compression ratio: 8.8:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin DCOE carb
5800rpm redline
Leaded 92
Tubular exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in: 1960-1965 Mk1 Mesaia 154S

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 10:14

154P13

Production years: 1955 through 1975
Shared specs:

Pushrod inline 4, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 72mm
Stroke: 80.2mm
Displacement: 1307cc

Cars used in:

1955-1965 Mesaia mk1
1965-1975 Mesaia mk2

Ce2 (1955-1965)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.1:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin single barrel eco carb
5000rpm redline
Leaded 92
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in: 1955-1965 mk1 Mesaia 132

Ce2U (1955-1965)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.1:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin single barrel eco carb
5500rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in: 1965-1975 mk2 Mesaia 132

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 10:28

123P8

Production years: 1955 through 1975
Shared specs:

Pushrod inline 3, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 64.8mm
Stroke: 80.2mm
Displacement: 794cc

Cars used in:

1955-1985 Plebia mk2

Ce (1955-1965)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.0:1
Naturally aspirated
Single barrel eco carb
5100rpm redline
Leaded 92
Short cast exhaust header
Two baffled mufflers

Used in: 1955-1965 mk2 Plebia 81

CeU (1965-1975)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.0:1
Naturally aspirated
Single barrel eco carb
5500rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in: 1965-1975 mk2 Plebia 81

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 10:49

123P10

Production years: 1955 through 1975
Shared specs:

Pushrod inline 3, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 72mm
Stroke: 81.8mm
Displacement: 1000cc

Cars used in:

1955-1985 Plebia mk2

Ce (1955-1965)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.0:1
Naturally aspirated
Single barrel eco carb
5200rpm redline
Leaded 92
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in: 1955-1965 mk2 Plebia 101M/101L

CeU (1965-1975)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.0:1
Naturally aspirated
Single barrel eco carb
5600rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in: 1965-1975 mk2 Plebia 101M/101L

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 10:57

236P20

Production years: 1960 through 1965
Shared specs:

Pushrod inline 6, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 72mm
Stroke: 81.8mm
Displacement: 1999cc

Cars used in:

1960-1974 Foreia mk2

Ce3 (1960-1965)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.2:1
Naturally aspirated
Triple Single barrel eco carb
5200rpm redline
Leaded 92
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in: 1960-1965 mk2 Foreia 203M

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 11:04

133S10

Production years: 1965 through 19??
Shared specs:

Bore: 77.1mm
Stroke: 71.5mm
Displacement: 1000cc

Cars used in:

1955-1985 Plebia mk2

C2U (1965-1975)

Specs:

Internals: Forged crank, Heavy duty forged rods, Forged pistons
Compression ratio: 7.6:1
Naturally aspirated
Two barrel carb
6200rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in: 1965-1975 Plebia 102S

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 12:05

184S16

Production years: 1965 through 19??
Shared specs:

Direct acting SOHC Inline 4, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 78.7mm
Stroke: 82.2mm
Displacement: 1599cc

Cars used in:

1960-1974 Foreia Mk2
1965-1975 Mesaia Mk2
1974-19?? Foreia Mk3
1975-19?? Mesaia Mk3

Ce2U (1965-1975)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.0:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin single barrel eco carb
5900rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1965-1974 Mk2 Foreia 162
1965-1975 Mk2 Mesaia 162L

Ce2UE (1974-19??)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.1:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin single barrel eco carb
6300rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1974-19?? Mk3 Foreia 1.6 BL
1975-19?? Mk3 Mesaia 1.6 GL

DCU (1965-1972)

Specs:

Internals: Forged crank, Heavy duty forged rods, Forged pistons
Compression ratio: 8.4:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin DCOE carb
6700rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Tubular exhaust header
Two baffled mufflers

Used in:

1965-1972 Mk2 Mesaia 164S

ME (1978-19??)

Specs:

Internals: cast crank, cast rods, hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 8.3:1
Naturally aspirated
Mechanical fuel injection, single throttle body
6900rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Tubular exhaust header
One straight through and one reverse flow muffler

Used in:

1978-19?? Mk3 Mesaia GTI

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ME-US (1978-19??)

Specs:

Internals: cast crank, cast rods, hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.2:1
Naturally aspirated
Mechanical fuel injection, single throttle body
6500rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
One straight through and one reverse flow muffler

Used in:

1978-19?? Mk3 Mesaia 1.6 CLI US

Mpi (1982-19??)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Forged pistons
Compression ratio: 8.1:1
Naturally aspirated
Multipoint EFI
6300rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1982-19?? Mesaia 1.6 GLi

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 12:24

184S18

Production years: 1965 through 19??
Shared specs:

Direct acting SOHC Inline 4, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 84.2mm
Stroke: 82.2mm
Displacement: 1831cc

Cars used in:

1960-1974 Foreia Mk2
1974-19?? Foreia Mk3
1976-19?? Ochlosia Mk1

Ce2U (1965-1974)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 6.9:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin single barrel eco carb
5900rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1965-1974 Mk2 Foreia 182M

Ce2UE (1974-1983)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.1:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin single barrel eco carb
6300rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1974-1982 Mk3 Foreia 1.8 GL
*1976-1983 Mk1 Ochlosia 1.8 Van

ME (1978-1982)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.5:1
Naturally aspirated
Mechanical fuel injection, single throttle body
6400rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1978-19?? Mk3 Foreia 1.8 GL Injection

Mpi (1982-19??)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Forged pistons
Compression ratio: 8.2:1
Naturally aspirated
Multipoint fuel injection, single throttle body
6500rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1982-19?? Mk4 Foreia 1.8

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 12:31

236S21

Production years: 1965 through 1974
Shared specs:

Direct acting SOHC Inline 6, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 73.6mm
Stroke: 82mm
Displacement: 2093cc

Cars used in:

1960-1974 Foreia Mk2

Ce3U (1965-1974)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.0:1
Naturally aspirated
Triple single barrel eco carb
6200rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1965-1974 Mk2 Foreia 213L

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 13:17

236S23

Production years: 1965 through 19??
Shared specs:

Direct acting SOHC Inline 6, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 73.6mm
Stroke: 90.8mm
Displacement: 2318cc

Cars used in:

1960-1974 Foreia Mk2
1974-19?? Klinos Mk1
1978-19?? Coupe / Tetra

DCU (1965-1972)

Specs:

Internals: Forged crank, Heavy duty forged rods, Forged pistons
Compression ratio: 7.8:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin DCOE carbs
6200rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Tubular exhaust header
One reverse flow and one baffled mufflers

Used in:

1965-1972 Mk2 Foreia 234S

Ce3-US (1972-1974)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.1:1
Naturally aspirated
Triple single barrel eco carb
5700rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
One reverse flow muffler

Used in:

1972-1974 Mk2 Foreia 233L (US export)

ME (1978-19??)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.6:1
Naturally aspirated
Mechanical fuel injection with single throttle body
5900rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
One baffled and one reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1978-19?? Mk1 Klinos GLSi
1978-19?? Mk1 Coupe CS

MTE (1978-19??)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Heavy duty forged rods, Hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 6.0:1
Single, journal bearing turbo @ 0.76bar
Mechanical fuel injection with single throttle body
5900rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
One baffled and one reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1978-19?? Mk1 Klinos Excellence
1978-19?? Mk1 Coupe Turbo

MT (1981-1984)

Specs:

Internals: Forged crank, Heavy duty forged rods, Forged pistons
Compression ratio: 6.0:1
Single, ball bearing turbo @ 1.03bar
Mechanical fuel injection with single throttle body
6600rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
One straight through and one reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1981-1984 Coupe Tetra evo 1

MpiT (1982-1984)

Specs:

Internals: Forged crank, Heavy duty forged rods, Forged pistons
Compression ratio: 7.0:1
Single, ball bearing turbo @ 1.03bar
Multipoint EFI with single throttle body
6700rpm redline
Unleaded 95
Short cast exhaust header
One straight through and one reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1982-1984 Coupe Tetra evo 2

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 14:34

236S22

(destroked 236S23, necessary to fit hypereutectic cast pistons on 1974 tech and still get a decent redline)

Production years: 1974 through 19??
Shared specs:

Direct acting SOHC Inline 6, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 73.6mm
Stroke: 84.9mm
Displacement: 2167cc

Cars used in:

1974-19?? Klinos Mk1
1976-19?? Ochlosia

Ce3UE (1974-19??)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.1:1
Naturally aspirated
Triple single barrel eco carbs
6200rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1974-19?? Mk1 Klinos GLS
1976-19?? Ochlosia Camper

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 14:43

123P9

Production years: 1975 through 1985
Shared specs:

Pushrod inline 3, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 69mm
Stroke: 80.2mm
Displacement: 899cc

Cars used in:

1955-1985 Mk2 Plebia

CeUE (1975-1985)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.0:1
Naturally aspirated
Single barrel eco carb
5800rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1975-1985 Mk2 Plebia BL

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 14:50

133S11

Production years: 1975 through 19??
Shared specs:

Direct acting SOHC inline 3, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 81mm
Stroke: 71.5mm
Displacement: 1105cc

Cars used in:

1975-19?? Mk3 Mesaia
1955-1985 Mk2 Plebia
1985-19?? Mk1 Dima

CeUE (1975-1985)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.0:1
Naturally aspirated
Single barrel eco carb
6400rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1975-1982 Mk3 Mesaia 1.1 BL
1975-1985

Spi (1982-19??)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.3:1
Naturally aspirated
Single point EFI
6400rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1982-19?? Mk3 Mesaia 1.1 BLi
1985-19?? Mk1 Dima 1.1 CL

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 14:54

184S13

Production years: 1975 through 19??
Shared specs:

Direct acting SOHC inline 4, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 75.8mm
Stroke: 72.1mm
Displacement: 1300cc

Cars used in:

1975-19?? Mk3 Mesaia

Ce2UE (1975-1985)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.1:1
Naturally aspirated
Twin single barrel eco carb
6200rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1975-19?? Mk3 Mesaia 1.3 CL

Mpi (1982-19??)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.9:1
Naturally aspirated
Multipoint fuel injection
6200rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1982-19?? Mk3 Mesaia 1.3 CLi

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 15:03

133S13

Production years: 1978 through 1996
Shared specs:

Direct acting SOHC inline 3, cast iron block, cast iron head
Bore: 81mm
Stroke: 84.1mm
Displacement: 1300cc

Cars used in:

1955-1985 Mk2 Plebia
1975-19?? Mk3 Mesaia
1985-19?? Mk1 Dima

Spi (1978-1985)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.4:1
Naturally aspirated
Throttle body fuel injection
6300rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Tubular exhaust header
One straight through, one reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1978-1985 Mk2 Plebia IS

Spi-US (1978-19??)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Hypereutectic cast pistons
Compression ratio: 7.4:1
Naturally aspirated
Throttle body fuel injection
6300rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
One straight through, one reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1978-1991 Mesaia 1.3 US

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Mpi (1985-1991)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, Forged pistons
Compression ratio: 8.2:1
Naturally aspirated
Multipoint fuel injection
6500rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1985-1991 Mk1 Dima 1.3GL / Dimatic 1.3 CL/GL

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Mpi Euro 1 (1991-1996)

Specs:

Internals: Cast crank, Cast rods, low friction cast pistons
Compression ratio: 8.0:1
Naturally aspirated
Multipoint fuel injection
6300rpm redline
Unleaded 91
Short cast exhaust header
Catalytic converter + Two reverse flow mufflers

Used in:

1991-1996 Mk3 Mesaia 1.3 BL

AutomationGame-Win64-Shipping_2018-11-02_13-35-07744×919 78.4 KB

Private_Miros · 30 April 2018 16:16

FAAL Senior Legal Compliance Management - Intellectual Property - internal communication to FAAL Communication Head of Department

Dear colleague,

In relation to your recent communication regarding the FAAL engines, the legal department wishes to notify you that a product cannot both be a non-registered trademark, indicated by ™, as well as a registrered trademark, indicated by ® .

I also wish to stress that this indication or registration is only valid in the US. Individual registrations should be filed in individual nations or regions, perhaps beginning with enregistrement de marque in France. A Community Trade Mark/EU Trade mark is available from at the latest 1994.

Kind regards,
Legal-IP

Knightophonix · 30 April 2018 16:22

abg7 · 2 May 2018 10:52

That’s quite an impressive list of cheap, easy-to-build engines you’ve got there - unpretentious, not too complex and just enough power for the cars in which they are installed. But the engine for your upcoming Group B homologation special is unlikely to be any of those things…

Knightophonix · 2 May 2018 11:04

Looks at my incoming Group B homologation special
…
y-yeah… no frills… and easy to build… yeah! Exactly! hehe! heh…