All that quality slider abuse makes my Znopresk gland hurt so badly
Intresting work however.
All that quality slider abuse makes my Znopresk gland hurt so badly
Intresting work however.
You seem to have made a typo which makes my Skoda 50 times more powerful.
[quote=âKubbozâ]You seem to have made a typo which makes my Skoda 50 times more powerful.
God damnit, first the hp:kg thing, now this xD good spot.
Yeah I know⌠The engine sliders are still all 15+
Except for the race headers. Thereâs actually very little in terms of performance boost up there so I think itâs more like 11 or 12 <_< as for the rest, body got dropped to 10, brakes to 11, entertainment and driving aids to 10 (because damn high tech on entertainment makes it heavy), and suspension to 6 or something. Lap times were only minimally affected, and yes, the tech sliders are still way up there, but as a result the cars have total costs of like 120000 and 135000, prod. Units 2000 and 2400 respectively, which is a lot less than my usual 200k+ and 4000 unlts.
Bottom line is, FR cars are hard to make super fast. I might next look to see just how cheap a hypercar can be, but I wonât expect it to be a GG product >_>
I should commission to GG the tuning of the âeveryone supercarâ Znopresk Zeus
If you are serious about that, I would be honoured to. Itâd be the obvious step to tuning something fast but affordable⌠a more realistic dream for the real world!
Iâll send you the car (and probably Iâll rebuild it) once the new game update is available.
Deal?
[quote=âNormanVauxhallâ]Iâll send you the car (and probably Iâll rebuild it) once the new game update is available.
Deal? [/quote]
Ok! Any restrictions you wish to place on it to honour the Znopresk spirit, Iâll honour them.
Though I donât have any time at the moment so itâll probably be some weeks before I really get to it. But thanks!
Hi guys. Been a while, but itâs always a while between me coming up with new stuff. Also, as I said elsewhere, I was planning to hold a BSLL2 soon, but due to too many work commitments, Iâll have to postpone it, probably until this time next year. Besides, as far as story writing goes, BSLL events are actually quite important to the direction of this company, and Cen and I need to catch up with the plot lol. Also, not writing BSLL2 allows me to actually finish the thing that I really need to be finishing, that Mille Cavalli Shootout from last June
But before that, I do have something for you. You can see where it came from, based on the conversation right above, in this thread. It occurred to me that our economic situation as a whole could stand to really hurt the bespoke car companies, particularly in Australia, and that Gryphon Gear, with its low profit, high overheads, low unit turnover, would be especially vulnerable when a volatile market implodes. Iâm no economist, but Iâve attempted to explain why, and thus the rationale for this new partnership in a short story below. I tried to make it a bit entertaining, but I honestly donât know how entertaining or dramatic you can make talking about economics
Anyway, if stories are too much for you, just skip ahead to the car presentation at the end of the post.
A few notes/disclaimers:
[ul]]There are a few expletives in the story. I donât censor stuff often./:m]
]Sadly, I had a story to go with the Mercury presentation but never posted it. It took place between the end of the first BSLL and this story. Some of the dynamics and the reactions to certain things would probably make more sense if I had posted it, but Iâll have to settle for posting it later./:m]
]The charactersâ opinions are their own, and not necessarily that of the author. Except Strop. Itâs fairly safe to say that Stropâs opinion as voiced in stories tends to match my own /:m][/ul]
[size=200]T[/size]he gang knew something was wrong when they piled into the darkened board room for their Quarterly Meeting and the only Board Executive there was Dan. Little mousy Dan, in her powerdressing finest, smacking the end of her riding crop in her palm.
Immediately Stropâs hair prickled on end, pupils dilating, and he would have bolted from the room if not for that big lug Boden, who was in the laborious process of squeezing himself through the door. Pushing through the palpably heavy atmosphere, they sat down one by one: Strop, chief designer and concept artist; Hannah, founder and chief engineer; Boden, Hannahâs husband, head of mechanics and fabrication; Tesla, former âtool bitchâ turned second-in-charge of mechanics; Hunter, overqualified materials specialist; Luca and Isla, twins and floor managers of Gryphon Gearâs two production lines; Noah, head of electrics, who was dragging along resident computer nerd Waxwell. Kai, their semi-tame test driver, shuffled in and diffidently plonked himself into the chair at the far end, swung his feet onto the table, and promptly fell asleep. Finally, the well-antlered manager behind the scenes, Assistant to Dan and Executive Liaison, dubbed the Deerector, slid into a seat on the opposite side of the table and glared at them balefully.
âIâll get straight to the point,â Dan snapped, cutting through the confusion before anybody could ask her what was going on. âWeâve done well up to this point, but financially, Australiaâs going to go to shit for a couple of years, and thatâs going to hit us hard.â
Hannah, arms folded, was first to comment: âDan, havenât we been seeing this coming since we started this company? Why this now?â
âBecause itâs worse than even we thought.â Dan tapped the board and it lit up, flooding the room with a flourescent glare and making everybody cringe. âThis pie chart shows us where our money is coming from.â She jabbed the especially dominant red slice of the pie with her riding crop. âAnd suffice to say about two thirds of our sales come from China. More specifically the nouveau riche who have ridden Chinaâs boom and suddenly have so much money they want to buy everything we have for sale. It works for us, because we think we make the fastest cars in the world, to them, we make mega status symbols, and thatâs what these guys want.â
Not accustomed to the abstract concepts of economics, Hannah frowned. âWhatâs your point? That if the market goes arse up weâll lose all of our customers?â
âSort of, but worse.â Dan tapped the screen again. âThat was just to point out that we as a company are dependent on the Chinese just as much as Australia as a whole is dependent on China. Weâre their number one source of raw material exports because theyâve been industralising. Thatâs one reason why we didnât feel the effects of the 2008 GFC nearly as bad as elsewhere around the world.â
âBullshit,â Hannah bristled, almost rising out of her chair. âWe felt it alright. Or at least I did, even if you didnât. All our local car manufacturing and fruit companies wouldnât just go under if we werenât in trouble would they?â
At this, Danâs demeanour almost softened, but she remained even. âYouâre right, Hannah. I never forgot what you went through, or why weâre even here in the first place. But thatâs the truth, and thatâs why itâs worse than we think. Holden, Ford, Toyota and Mitsubishi pulling out of Australia just goes to show how little weâve done to create a viable export industry outside of cows and coal. The cows is, well, thatâs a story for another time. As for the coal, letâs just say if Chinaâs running out of steam, and most of the number crunchers think it is, then most of Western Australia is going to turn into a ghost state faster than you can say FIFO. Hell, itâs already happening.â Dan pointed to the graphs labelled Mining Export Profits and ChiNext Index, both of which featured a precipitous dip after a surging boom, like the power graph on an 90s VTEC engine. âExport dries up further. Consumer confidence will be shattered. Nobody will buy anything, and since our governments in their vote chasing wisdom didnât invest in the future, our future, which is becoming our present, is going to be fucked, because our own economy finally goes into a long overdue recession, and this time, itâs going to be a deep one.â
With the exception of Kai, who was asleep, and Waxwell, who was playing with his phone, most of the rest sat in silence, too oppressed by the intensity of the talk and the Deerectorâs censoring glare to say anything, so they left it to Hannah, who was currently rubbing her forehead. âI thought you said you were getting straight to the point Dan.â
âI am. But if I didnât say all of this now, youâd drag it out of me after what Iâm about to say next, only you wouldnât be listening. I know you guys.â
Hannah and Dan glared at each other. âWeâre not going to like what you have to say are we.â
âNo.â Dan took a breath, drawing an imperceptibly raised eyebrow from Strop- a moment of nervousness? But he didnât even have time to process that nor brace for impact before Dan made the pronouncement: âWe canât make any more million dollar cars.â
Somebody had thrown the windows open, the glacial gust of Melbourneâs rain laden wind blowing through the room and dropping the temperature a good ten degrees. Everybody stiffened as one, and even Kai woke up, jerking upright in his chair. âDid you just say no more Mephisto? No more Mercury?â
âESPECIALLY no more Mephisto,â Dan emphasised. Kai threw up his hands in disgust. âThis canât be! Hannah, do something!â
Hannah needed no instruction, for she was already fuming. âThe Board put you up to this didnât they, thatâs why they arenât here now. You call them up right now so I can give them a piece of my mind and tell them where to shove that suggestion of theirs!â
Dan sighed and maintained her glare at Hannah. âItâs not a suggestion. And yelling at the Board wonât save our company. I for one agree with them.â Boden reflexively put his hands on his wifeâs shoulders, but she shook them off, jumping up and knocking her chair over where it clanged on the floor, making everybody else jump.
âYou say you havenât forgotten what I went through, but have you forgotten what this company means!?â she shrieked. âThis is an Australian company. Weâre resilient! Weâre determined! Weâll rise from the ashes of the past and be who we are and whoever doesnât like it can get stuffed. And now youâre saying we canât be who we are?â
âHannah, could you keep being who you are if you ceased to exist?â
âThatâs not the point!â Hannah would have jabbed her pointy nail directly into Danâs nose if not for Bodenâs restraining hands. âYou can draw all your pretty graphs to paint doom and gloom all you like, but weâve worked our asses off to come this far in just a couple of years. I know our bottom line is good. We turn a profit. We have plenty of contacts and sponsorships. And all our people are good people who came together under this vision and like hell Iâll let the Board change that or lay anybody off!â
âWhich is precisely why itâs our responsibility to respond to the situation to alter our business model to one that ensures our survival,â Dan hissed back.
âWait wait hold up for a minute,â Strop belatedly found both his voice and his cojones. âDo you mean to say that weâll be going back to scrounging a living off making sportier versions of affordable shitboxes? Because I donât think any of us would be cool with that.â
âNo, if you would let me explain-â
But Hannah, too fired up to wait, jumped in first. âDo you realise just how much impact such a shift will have on all of our staff? How much weâd lose in operations, shuffling logistics? Thereâll always be customers for our cars and weâve already sold out our entire production run of Mercury and Daeva in preorders and you want us to cancel that?â
âSorry for the interruption.â This time it was Luca and Isla, barely audible in the rising volume of the argument. âThe production of Mercury and Daeva need to be stopped when?â
âI bet you I know where this is really going, this is a bait and switch isnât it. Youâre going to say actually no, thereâs a way to save the production line and cut the racing team arenât you. You canât fool me, I know the Boardâs been opposed to our racing from the get-go and-â
âIf we stop producing cutting edge tech we might as well be dead in the water, because itâll be a capitulation and all come snowballing downâŚâ That was Hunter, for whom the penny had just dropped that his tenure in particular was in potential jeopardy.
âNo Mephisto is simply unacceptable. Unacceptable! Where will the rock stars get their two thousand horsepower cars from then? That shop that does up Gallardos??â No prizes for guessing who that was.
By this point, most everybody had gotten to their feet and were inching closer to Dan while barraging her with their questions. As commanding a presence as she was, she was also the second shortest there, and against nine raging beasts (okay, more like one furious, one merely angry, two concerned, four confused, and one not even paying attention), her diminutive stature placed a hard limit on her effectiveness. She drew her arm back, about to resort to the crop, when a hand reached out and closed around the crop. Momentum broken, Dan looked up, as did everybody else, to find the Deerector had also risen, towering antlers nearly scraping the ceiling. Second in stature only to Boden, but with a multitude more pointy bits and a far more curmudgeonly demeanour, everybody collectively agreed that it was wiser to stop arguing.
âEverybody,â the Deerector spoke with barely more than a murmur. âI suggest you all resume your seats, so that Dan may finish her explanation, after which you may ask questions.â
Sufficiently muted, in Hannahâs case muted but fuming, everybody did as told, and Dan kept going as if nothing had happened. âThank you. To address Hannahâs point about our present finances, our problem is that since the conglomeration of local parts manufacturers went arse up along with the big players since everybody started outsourcing parts, labour and finally product, even if we assemble everything locally and make many of the parts ourselves, we still import materials from everywhere. Our engines are the biggest culprit, since we subcontracted the one major firm in Germany who makes magnesium blocks, and thatâs just one example. All that is probably going to get a hell of a lot pricier. And yes, weâre a surprisingly profitable outfit, but thatâs only relative to bespoke small businesses like us. The real profit margin is tiny, and the moneyâs still going to dry up. And if it does, thatâs when we lose people, but we canât afford to lose anybody because we still need to keep up our capacity or weâll definitely be finished. We just have to find the demand elsewhere.â
âAnd the racing team? What about the racing team?â Hannah quizzed.
âSince weâre well invested in WEC now, and thatâs the healthiest FIA code at the moment, the racing team is valuable to us, and therefore safe.â
There was a collective sigh of relief, but simultaneously a ripple of disquiet. âI knew it,â Strop lamented. âThe factoryâs gonna be ricing up shitboxes.â
âNot so fast,â Dan pointed the crop at Strop, shutting him up instantly. âTo answer Luca and Islaâs question, first, we will honour all those preorders, so we will continue production of Mercury and Daeva until all 25 Mercuries, 30 Aesmas, and 20 Indras are completed. After that, however, is the tricky part. Given the way you all, and I too, feel, we should find a way to deliver superior performance, except for a lot less.â
âPlease explain,â Strop paused deliberately, âHow this doesnât mean weâre going to rice up shitboxes.â
âYeah, and how they arenât going to be cars I want to drive directly into a ditch?â Kai added.
âThat last request sounds impossible, seeing as you appear to be fond of crashing all cars into a ditch, Mister Kristensen,â the Deerector snarked. Kai blew a raspberry at him.
âThe last part is your job,â Dan deadpanned. âAs for the main question, weâll just have to redefine affordable supercar.â
âWhat, like the R8?â Strop stuck his tongue out. âEwww.â
âAnd so, like, corporate,â Noah shuddered.
Dan rolled her eyes. âWell, I didnât say build a fucking Audi now did I?â
âDan, I donât see how this solves our issue of having to change our assembly line structure or processes,â Hannah reiterated.
âExcept if we donât.â Dan slapped the board again, and the image changed. Up came a new logo, one that looked like a big fancy Ĺ˝. âSurely you have all heard of Ĺ˝nopreĹĄk Avto.â
A barely suppressed snigger echoed through the room, for it was a running joke that Žnopreťk and Gryphon Gear were completely opposite things. In her traumatised panic, Hannah missed the joke.
âYou donât mean to say the Boardâs proposing a merger with a supercompany do you?â
Dan placed her hands on her hips. âPlease stop jumping to conclusions, Hannah. I know they have nothing in common with us. But if you remember our little April Fools joke, the T- To- the TømtĂŚ.â
âOh yes, the car I loved so much I did drive it into a ditch!â Kai grinned.
âYes, that one,â Dan muttered. âAnyway, other manufacturers apparently didnât get the memo so it ended up being run in a car comparison, where it actually held its own, which is pretty fucking amazing to say in the least. Ĺ˝nopreĹĄk Avto were there, and more recently we were contacted by their office to see if we were interested in a partnership.â
âOh lordy, we really are ricing up the Zest,â Strop groaned.
âFor Dogâs sake Strop would you shut up about ricing!â Dan slapped the board especially hard, making Strop startle and almost whinney. âBesides itâs not the Zest. Itâs the Zeus, Znopreskâs one attempt at an affordable supercar. And theyâre extremely good at making affordable without compromise, so I suggest you all start taking notes from them. But theyâve realised that their car may have oodles of power, but doesnât quite get up to speed elsewhere, so theyâve come to us to take a look at how much we can wring out of it without wrecking its Ĺ˝nopreĹĄk-ness. In fact, we should be taking delivery of one right about,â Dan glanced at her watch, âNow.â
There was a stunned silence as that sunk in. Dan had everything planned all along, and they didnât even suspect it until it was already sewn up. Then somebody started applauding, slowly. It was Waxwell, who was still looking at his phone.
âWell played, Dan. Well played. Itâs such a shame you arenât on the internets, you would make such an epic troll.â
Dan winked at Waxwell. âWho says Iâm not?â
The Zeus pulled into the warehouse, engine burbling and cutting off. As it ticked, the door opened and out stepped Kai, tame racing driver, to brief the rest of the core team.
âSo howâs it feel?â Strop asked. âDid you want to crash it?â
âAlmost,â Kai stuck his tongue out. âBut not quite. Acceleration is okay, for an NA. Itâs a bit, how to say it, stodgy in the corners, just progressive understeer. Good for regular people who think they can drive fast but they canât, you know? Safe. Predictable. Boring. But it has some potential.â
âPolymer panels. Thatâll explain some of the low costs.â Tesla had the car on the rack already, muttering numbers as she paced the perimeter with measuring tape and calipers. Boden, similarly, had unscrewed the undertray and had his horns buried in the engine bay.
Strop nodded to himself. All said and done, the Zeus was a car that genuinely interested him. It had many potential titles, including best car for under 100K, the R8 beater, the European answer to the pony car⌠not to mention that for its simplicity in form, it had a certain elegance, a counterpoint to the glaring menace and outright Fuck You of his own designs for Gryphon Gear.
âWhat do you think?â On cue, Dan sauntered up, idly tapping her riding crop against her thigh. âCan you do something with this?â
âOf course!â Strop laughed, trying to hide his nervousness around the crop. âI mean, itâs got similar dimensions to the Mercury, so I figured weâd upgrade the aero with the package from the Mercury, chuck it in the wind tunnel-â
THWAP! This time Strop did whinney as Dan actually did smack him with the riding crop. âBad horse! No wind tunnel! Weâre trying to save money!â
âYouâre cramping my style!â Strop protested, rubbing his still smarting flank.
âYou heard the lady!â the Deerector called out, as he walked across the floor.
âNnnghâŚâ Strop attempted to recoup his shattered dignity. âThen I thought weâd beef up the tyres, turbo the fuck out of the engineâŚâ
âOkay good.â Dan produced a clipboard and shoved it into Stropâs chest. âBefore you go on, hereâs the brief. It also lists all the things you can and canât change, and the parameters you must satisfy. Note the maximum costs. And especially note that you canât use carbon fiber.â
âMaaaaaate!â Hunter, who had been skulking just out of sight, suddenly appeared, looking like he had just been shot.
âGet over yourself Hunter, you still have work to do. Go figure out how to make active aero work with plastic without ripping it to shreds.â Dan raised her voice to address the group. âEverybody, I expect you to talk to Hannah and have a working plan by tonight, because I want the car done in a fortnight. Any longer and we might as well pack up shop and brace for the economic holocaust. Now get going.â
âYes Maâam!â the team replied in unison.
Two weeks later⌠and we have something special for you!
[size=200]Žnopreťk Zeus GG Tune[/size]
[size=85]Original body by NormanVauxhall. Very little in the way of styling was changed, except for the roof scoop and wings, which are imported directly from Mercury, the exhausts, and the GG Tune decal[/size]
The original Žnopreťk, as designed by NormanVauxhall, is an aluminium frame, plastic panel, ~600bhp supercar that cost a measly ~16500 money units to make. It also comes equipped with standard interior, entertainment and safety, and active sport suspension. With its combination of splitters and a rear lip, plus downforce undertray, It generates zero lift, and has nice predictable handling. And with a top speed of over 350km/h, and making its way around the full lap of Green Hell in 7:50, it does have some sporting credentials to add to its well roundedness, making it a fierce competitor for best sports car you could retail for under 100k. Frankly, I thought this was amazing, given that for most of the cars I make, the material costs alone come to more than that. But then again, I also tend to insist on cars that hustle around the 'ring in under 7 minutes.
For this challenge, I was to try and max out the performance of the car, but in order for Žnopreťk to consider it for production, Drivability had to remain at least 50, Comfort at least 30, and total costs could not exceed 22500 units. Given my interpretation of how cars test (which may change, I dunno how BROBOT will affect the simulation), a properly fast supercar would require a time of less than 7:07, which is to say in the least a challenge. In addition, I committed to leaving the chassis completely unchanged, and the materials of each component also unchanged.
In the end, as Strop declared, the total changes were as follows:
[ul]]Slight increase in fixture quality/:m]
]Addition of two wings, with active aero/:m]
]Very slightly boring and stroking out the block (by 0.5 and 1.2mm respectively) to attain a total displacement of 5999cc, without affecting reliability/:m]
]Going TUBRO MOTHERFUCKER on the engine (well, not really, turbo quality is 3+ and boost is barely 1 bar), and obviously retuning the engine to support that. Still, 1023hp on 95RON!/:m]
]Upgrading air filter and throttle body, upping the redline by 200rpm, and pretty much nothing else/:m]
]Retaining the same transmission, only replacing the diff with a better one with electric LSD/:m]
]Changing the size of the tyres, and upgrading to Pirelli P Zero Corsas (+8 quality semi slicks yields the same price, as total cost of tyres was 2468, which is about what youâd pay for 2 255s and 2 345s)/:m]
]Optimising brake balance/:m]
]Upgrading quality of aero to +13 (Mercury package adapted and fitted)/:m]
]Stripping some of the entertainment out and switching to GG default for safety (-15 Advanced). Adding launch control, because the engine is now turbo and puts out >1000hp/:m]
]Switching to GG default suspension (no active sports! Too heavy! Progressive springs, monotube dampers and active sway bars)/:m][/ul]
Everything else was kept exactly the same, meaning that Žnopreťk can easily continue to build this car mostly themselves, provided we fit the aero and interior. My main point of concern is that this is now a properly fast supercar, but it still has standard seats to save costs. Proper sports seats are bloody expensive however, and may need to be an optional extra. If not, hopefully the extra sturdy harness holds you in your seat
That aside, the overall project was a great success, with all parameters on the brief being met, plus my own performance goal:
[size=85]A >1000bhp TURBO megacar with a drivability of 50!? Like uwotm8.[/size]
We (okay, I) was really excited to undertake this project, as well as achieve this result, and it may very well provide some hope for our embattled industry, should Žnopreťk wish to take this prototype all the way to production. NormanVauxhall did also mention in his brief that an optional special CF limited version might be on the cards, and I hope that this will be the case, for with the change in materials plus our own manufacturer supplied tyres, I am confident that we could produce a 7 minute car by any measurement whatsoever, unequivocally a hypercar for the people. The main drawback would be that such a car does double both in production and maintenance costs, so it would definitely be a rarity.
I eagerly await NormanVauxhallâs response!
With the fairly severe (for me) balance changes coming up in the next release, plus the next round of developments, namely, the addition of V12, among other things, itâs now clear that all the cars in GGâs supposed lineup are going to be undergoing complete revisions until the point that the game reaches its final form. This means all GG models and all their associated stories: Nightfury, Mephisto, Mercury, Daeva, plus the other prototypes i.e. Sleipnir, and a few that havenât been released yet, are going to be rebuilt from scratch in several months anyway. This is particularly necessary for me because I make extremely pointy end cars, and what seems pretty minor in most places is actually pretty extreme at the pointy end. In this case, everything has become considerably more difficult and if I build the way I have in the past, I get hit with huge drivability penalties which severely compromise track performance. In addition, I can no longer feasibly abuse tech sliders with 15+ and pretend that my car will be realistically sold (well, I could, but given that in the new version, Hypercar-like performance is attainable from a supposed sale price of about 240000 money units), Iâll have to be mindful of what I do. Thatâll become even more obvious when engineering costs are implementedâŚ
This being said, Iâm still here to tease something thatâs been in the works for a while: following on from the success of the Znopresk-GG partnership, comes a similar, yet rather different project from Rennen-GG. The car was spotted being put through its paces on the quieter roads around GGâs HQ North of MelbourneâŚ
[size=85]As always, thanks Google Earth for your fancy mapping technology[/size]
Stay tuned for a behind the scenes excerpt and breakdown!
Nice little teaser.
The V12s and balance changes are here! The good news is that BROBOT in de-randomised form is also here, which means much more realistic times on all the tracks, which is like my Christmas come early as far as Automation is concerned (I canât thank Der Bayer enough for the work he has done on that, plus all the people who helped him organise and run the various challenges that refined the process).
As I mentioned previously, this does mean a big shakeup of the GG lineup, plus a revamped history to more realistically reflect the development cycle of even a manic company like GG. Iâll be taking this opportunity to highlight how the cars already here will change, which ones can be rebuilt already, and which ones will need to wait for further game development. Iâll also provide a bit of information on what will come in the future.
In a non-exhaustive, bare-bones chronology (prone to revision with ongoing changes to the spreadsheet calendar which Cen and I are developing):
Note that while some real-life companies and potentially real-life people will be referenced in this fiction, and this universe makes reference to real-life occurrences, unless otherwise specifically stated, fictional characters and companies do not in any way shape or form purport to have any likeness or event relating to these real companies or people
#2011- Wretched Beginnings
#2012- Enter Chaos
#How Will the Cars Change?
##Nightfury
##Mephisto
##Mercury
##Daeva
###So what were the possible 2016 cars?
##Orphiel
##Salamander
Mule model only, design as yet incomplete
So, what do you think? If you had to choose: Orphiel, or Salamander? Is Orphiel still too old-school and more of the same, or is Salamander⌠not GG enough?
Sweet mother of Henry Ford, what is this thingus on the back of Orphiel, my windowshill or what? My vote is on Salamander (unless youâll change this panelling thingus on Orphiel)
my vote in on the Salamander, but it still needs headlights. Of course, if you need help with those, PM me
@JasonPoland: what is it about the rear that you dislike in particular?
@Tom: I may do this, when I even start thinking about the headlights! (And tail lights). Iâve put it on the backburner for the time being since itâs a car for next year and there are other things going on currently.
I think someone is being inspired by your Mephisto in real life⌠jalopnik.com/the-devel-sixteens- ⌠9588903691
looooool oh god yes. While the Jalopniks seem to hate on it quite a lot, and I do agree that itâs completely daft, I really want to find out what the heck that thing would be able to do when it comes out.
I came here for the company story.
I wasnât disappointed
I want another Barely Street Legal League to take place
I can tell you now that I tentatively plan for another BSLL to take place in the latter half of 2016. The reasons for this are two-fold:
Almost all the core content in game with finalised balance changes should have taken place by this point, though the exact timing of a stable build remains to be seen
I have some major hurdle exams to sit, first in February, then in July/August if I pass the ones in Feb. My career advancement cannot continue until I pass these exams, theyâre expensive, and failing drastically reduces my chances of staying employed, so I really need to pass!!! First BSLL took 3 months and several all-nighters, I obviously canât do that and study at the same time.
Personally, I like the Orphiel a lot more. But⌠Iâve never really been a big fan of mid-engine cars to start with. To me, theyâre oddly-proportioned ugly things.
Not really a fan of the double-stack wing on the Orphiel, though. One or the other would be good, but not both.
As for the BSLL, well, I look forward to it. It may be a way off, but I can wait for it. The way I see it, what little of the first BSLL leaked into public knowledge was enough to start my characterâs descent into crazy cars, and drastic actions to be able to drive them, so participation in BSLL 2 is something he wouldnât miss, not for all the precious metal in the world. As for me, well, it caused me to start pushing performance limits, seeing what I could do, and made me develop several prototypes, refine my ability to tune without quality slider abuse (too much, at least), and design some fast cars, instead of mundane and boring sedans.
Though I do admit, I admire the well defined story so far. Every car has a story behind it, and even being out of date by a few versions, they still pack a lot of inspiration for insanity.
Been a while since I updated this thread, as usual. Due to the change in focus of the development process, Iâve hit a bit of a wall when it comes to the design and rebuilding of my cars, as mentioned earlier. Iâve also had a massive slump in motivation in the last few months due to real life stuff and work etc.
On the plus side I have a few things coming up: an announcement, a story, and some new designs. Before that, Iâll explain what GG is going to be up to in 2016:
[ul]]GG has hit its stride in the professional racing scene, partnering with giants Znopresk with great success in the touring car/endurance scene. The money, sponsorships and positive publicity are all very welcome./:m]
]Weâll also be bolstering our company profile, staff roster and development program quite significantly thanks to a surprise merger. More on the details in a separate post, and more on why this is so significant later on in this post./:m]
]At the end of last year and the start of this year, the seeds were sown for the GG design to be taken in new directions, namely, building cars for the real world, for real world markets. Accessibility was a word previously scorned by GG, but the reality of their clientele and the costs incurred by building the most superlative of machines, as well as the reliability issues and maintenance almost killed the company. At the same time, it is very important that GG doesnât abandon its vision, which is superior performance by all means./:m]
]Therefore with the expansion of the company plus our heightened profile at higher tiers of motorsport competition, we plan to use our newly increased leverage to further rebuild a manufacturing network and push research in environmentally friendly and emissions reducing technologies, a plan that was heralded by our 2020 design concept, Kelpie/:m][/ul]
Kelpieâs an important milestone of sorts. Itâs our way of declaring that hypercar performance from an ICE is entirely possible on 40mpg and better. It means that we have to make some changes to our focus in the way we engineer things, as well as encourage larger development programs to push in this direction. Our main contribution to improving mileage is in furthering research on mass production of magnesium blocks, as well as continuing to collate ongoing research into automotive aerodynamics and manifest them in our evolving models.
If Kelpie is the milestone, we have a number of steps to get there first. Itâs thus been decided that Salamander will be the first step along this path, as something more liveable, cheaper, more reliable, less thirsty, but delivering hypercar performance. Of course, we borrowed the engineering of the powerplant from Holden/GM, as we arenât accustomed to working with 4 valve systems, but weâll be working from there. And with 800hp powering 1234kg and only achieving 20mpg, we do have a ways to go yet. As to how Salamander is received, we have a couple of reviewers testing the car as I write this, and I guess we shall find out what they say soon. Nonetheless, the die is cast and our path set, so weâll be looking mainly to continue to improve, provided we capture enough interest to see the 400 or so examples we plan to build. A proper reveal will follow post the release of the first review.
After this, our major hopes rest on ongoing racing and sales success plus relative reduced costs of maintenance from the newer models (out of the 80 or so Mephistos and 25 Mercuries weâve sold since 2013, a quarter of them have been totalled beyond repair and a third of them have required extensive rebuilding). Should we have enough cash flow for opening up production further, we plan to increase the range and diversity of the lines that we build. In 2012, we were building prototypes and tuning individual cars. In 2013, we were able to open a single pilot, low volume production line. This was improved upon in 2014 and in 2015 we split the one factory into two lines. For 2016 and beyond, we plan to run three lines after a small second factory is built. Supposing this starts well, we may even be able to refurbish our original main office in 2017-2018. But thatâs slightly speculation at the moment.
How is this going to work? As you now see, the cars GG builds are all hypercars, but even within this class of car there are tiers of âGG-nessâ:
[ul]]Nightfury, Mephisto and Mercury are all gas-guzzling, tarmac incinerating, eardrum shattering over-powered, testosterone-fuelled God tier âfuck youâ machines designed to break the limits of human driving and test the limits of speed. They often utilised the latest and greatest in experimental racing technology and were also accessible only to people who did not know the word âbudgetâ./:m]
]The revealed but not yet released to public Daeva was designed to a budget, to slay the memory of the Lexus LFA by being a 1000+ bhp FR and yet somehow also being drivable. The technologies it employed were considerable in order to achieve its aims, but not quite as maximal as the first tier, for the purpose of replication of parts. One might even call this tier âthe real world hypercarâ tier, as it was designed to compete against the hypercar trio and the models from other companies that would challenge them. Had Sleipnir been built past prototype phase, it would likely have become the template for cars of this tier, but that was delayed by the prototype getting trashed when the BSLL got out of hand. At any rate, better late than never, this tier is being reestablished./:m]
]The new tier of cars is the tier thatâs working towards achieving the vision of Kelpie: the eco-hypercar. Think of these cars as being almost as habitable as your daily eco-car runabout in terms of comfort and fuel consumption, not to mention vastly superior emissions ratings, but will also somehow smoke the hell out of any car up to and including a hypercar like the Aventador SV. Salamander is the start of this tier, though hardly its best representative./:m]
]As our prototype garages are in good order, weâll also still have plenty of fun one-off âwhat the hell were you smokingâ builds, including, for example, a real FWD hyper hatch./:m][/ul]
The current question Iâm grappling with is a new design study. Keeping in the theme of âreptilian myths and sea monstersâ, somewhere in between Salamander and Kelpie comes Ouroboros:
As you can see, Iâve used vmoâs new Huracan side intake in weird and unexpected places, and combined other fixtures (corvette6317âs circular window, necronâs Megane lip) also in somewhat unexpected ways. Iâm not sure the design is coherent (Iâm quite sure it is not, actually), so things will probably change.
My current question: should I make this a tier eco-hypercar, or a tier regular GG-style hypercar? (GG style means 1hp:kg, of course). Iâve already decided that M-AWD isnât really worth it when it comes to combining performance and economy, plus the added weight, so itâll be MR. Itâs just a matter of deciding whether to use a 690hp powerplant in a 1130kg car with a fuel economy of 6.8L/100km, or whether to use a 1220hp powerplant in a 1220kg car with a fuel economy of 10.3L/100km. Weâre talking times of 6:59 versus 6:45 around Nordschleife, on sports tyres, as it is.