Even in the late 90s side crash protection was pretty shithouse. This conversation is rather pertinent to me, since my father was killed in a T-boning, it was light truck vs '97 Mitsubishi Magna (Galant). Curtain airbags would have been of questionable benefit given the fatal injury was due to flail chest as a direct consequence of cabin intrusion. On the plus side, his brother, on the passenger side, only suffered a bruised knee (more than what you could have said of the other occupant in the 92 Civic vs SUV I guess 
). Itās really more about cabin rigidity from side impacts and AFAIK that didnāt really get up to scratch until the mid to late noughties.
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this makes me feel good about my car at least
Here I am
Certainly doesnāt make me feel very confident.
Your car wonāt make it but it looks like youād be fine
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Hey thatās my stepsisters car (you can see the outcome on another thread)
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Well, good to know that my carās a fatass because itās a virtually impregnable fortress under reasonable conditions.
Wow thats alot of airbagsā¦and strop i am sorry for your loss mate.
edit. Hang on you work in health and you drive a cheap hatchā¦um lol something not quite right about thatā¦you sir need a ford
You should see our staff car parking lot. Compared to many of us I drive a pretty flash car simply because it was bought new. As far as doctors etc. are concerned, weāre a bunch of mostly poor people working in a mostly poor hospital serving a mostly poor community, and I donāt think thatās a bad thing. But of course Iām still a doctor so donāt think for a minute that I believe Iām not better off in many ways than many people.
Also dw, it was like twelve years ago.
Lol the complete opposite to our docs put here. Mercs and bmw then my gp has 3 porsches it must have something to do with rural docsā¦
I also will never understand why the docs out here are obsessed with hunting trophiesā¦they dont hunt but are quite happy to pay me for hides and antlers to then be mounted???
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this is no ordinary gp, heās up to some shady businessā¦
this is super-gp
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Nope this is gp that owns his own practice not in the public sector and he pays really low to his nurses my mum has been there 15 yrs and her last pay rise went from 19.79 per hr to 19.85 per hr thats right a 6c pay rise for the head nurseā¦and what annoys me is he is only there 4 days a week for 4hrs each day. This is why rural aussie healthcare is a joke the only docs that come here are either made to in the public sector or come here to fuckin retire at 30.
Sorry strop no offence meant but these docs are parasites
Pretty sure strop would be offended by that bludger doctor rather than your hate for him
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Oi watch ur language the c word is not used in that way lol. Wat you meant to say (in aussie) is that bludger doctor
oops sorry guys i thought i was in a granny section oops
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when it comes to swearing with me (even IRL) wherever the word fits, it goes, even if it makes no sense or is (unintentionally) offensive 
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No offence taken whatsoever. Thatās the nature of the problem and thatās the way itās staying. Even the fiscal incentives (aka the reason your country GP can afford 3 Porsches) isnāt enough.
Personally I freaking love working in the country. Normally my training program requires me to do 3 months in every 12, I tend to ask for 6 (though I donāt get it, because exam schedule). If I could make it work, Iād totally work rural, only, the problem with that is that I canāt commit to working full time rural because other life priorities, and thatās a problem a lot of the rural health services face: that kind of severely limits the continuity of care that rural residents really need, so Iām not exactly fixing the problem with that compromise.
Anyway, sorry for being off-topic.
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Thatās the type of crash where Iād survive.
Thatās the one where itās doubtful I do.
The first gen xB/bB were pretty good at head on and moderate overlap, but sucked at side impact. Granted itās still the most modern car Iāve owned and definitely the safest. But given the drop in performance from head on to moderate overlap I doubt the car would hold up to a small overlap.
Hereās a vid for car (the closest I can get)
(No sound) 1984 Mustang Convertible
for the Mid 80s itās quite a solid car!
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The way that roofline and bottom chassis and side skirts flex really worries me
School buses donāt have underride bars, so yeah, different set of conditions. Itās quite strange that they donāt considering theyāre of a similar height to transport trucks and are more prone to being rear-ended since they often stop on highways.
My dad was in a crash 15 years ago where his 1985 Land Cruiser was sandwiched between 2 transport trucks. The truck was completely destroyed and nobody could have survived anywhere but the driverās seat. My dad just broke a couple of ribs. The front of his SUV only partially underrode the transport in front, on the passenger side, while the entire cabin behind the front seats was lifted off the frame and crushed (the frame was lower than the transport truck that rear-ended him). So yeah, a large vehicle has its advantages in such a situation since thereās more rigid body to absorb such a strong impact.
Those are due to the inherently weak unibody design with the top chopped off. (aka: Typical Convertible)
Trust me, those doors are an integral part of the rigidity of the car. When Iāve jacked up my Mustang for oil changes and brake changes/brake bleeding, you can feel the flex (and see it a bit) when the door is opened and closed while still jacked up.
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