Is the body style fixed, or could I make a SUV (probably wouldn’t do it but hypothetically)?
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And I read it correctly that PU stands for Production Units?
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Yea, that’s right. Also no restriction on the body.
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I do find the requirement to use unleaded 95 a bit odd, since unleaded fuel became standard way later than 1978, only virtually existing the US in lower amounts. Not that you can’t design a car for it, but the use of leaded or lower quality unleaded feels better
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I think I might have had a bit of a brain fart making the ruleset. My thinking was that since we were making cars at the very advent of emissions controls, it would make sense to not run leaded fuel. Catalytic converters notoriously don’t take very well to it. I also wanted the emissions game to be an aspect, so better efficiency nets you more points.
I think I might have had a bit of a brain fart making the ruleset.
Which is a reason why I’m giving feedback that might prevent this from being an issue in future challenges.
Feedback in question is accomodating something called “Rules Deliberation”, which is time period between originally posting the rules and opening submissions. You may notice this term being utilised in other challenges and, in terms of you not being aware what it means, I might try to explain it.
During this time period, rules can be changed based on feedback from other players or your own revisit of rules that revealed something you missed first time. You may or may not apply suggested changes, but I dare say people suggesting would usually be reasonable with it. Choosing duration of this period is not something that I can help with too much, assuming you will be able to figure that out yourself. Worst case scenario, you are checking said other challenges and seeing how others set this up
After said period passes, rules are locked in and not subject to change unless some massive reason for doing so presents itself. Most often, such reason would be game updates.
I wish you best of luck with hosting this challenge.
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I’ll implement that for future challenges. We are looking for people to help make and test the rulesets too, I am the one mainly in charge of them for now, and it shows. Either way, the original intent was to take advantage of the nascent emissions control systems like 2-way and very early 3-way catalytic converters, which are by their very nature incompatible with leaded fuels.
For what it’s worth, not all feedback in deliberation is useful.
In the USA, leaded fuel started its phaseout in 1973, and it was banned for use in new vehicles with catalytic converters from 1975 according to this US government source. Leaded fuel doesn’t work with cats, and unleaded was absolutely a product.
Here’s the kicker though: Japan was first! This article details the timeline, with the phaseout starting in 1970 and unleaded fuel becoming present in 75. Certain European countries were reportedly pretty early too, banning all leaded fuel by 1986. Japan had pretty major pressure from automakers pushing it forward, so leaded fuel in Japanese stuff was pretty slim.
In summary: No, unleaded fuel in the 1970s is not at all unrealistic! By 1978, many countries had unleaded fuel available!
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I think the only non-catalyzed turbo-charged cars of the era were Renaults and the 2002 Turbo. Audi phased them out in 88 with the CIS-III injection system making it’s way to the 2.2 Turbo.
It just makes very little sense to have a non-catalyzed turbocharged car, turbocharged engines make heat, heat and carburettors don’t go together. And if your car has to sell world-wide, it makes sense to have a cat in there, because you can’t just tune the turbo engine to work with it by snapping your fingers.
First Entry!
Courtesy of @capichefgnegne, an “all-terrain” capable, AWD sedan powered by a turbocharged inline 4 engine. Submitted 09.05.26, a solid month early.
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Sorry for triple post.
I have updated the scoring section to show the “weighting” of individual stats. This weighting applies to the “stat edge”, not the stat itself.
Shromet Dragon
✦ UNBRIDLED AMBITION ✦
Pictured: Marc Shromet in 1976 with Chassis #3 Shromet Dragon.
The genesis of a legacy.
“This car just might singlehandedly kill detroit… or it might save it.” -Car and Driver, May 1975.
The design brief for the Shromet Dragon was ambitious: utilize advancements in Computer Assisted Design (CAD) with a highly aerodynamic body and computer controlled fuel injection systems. The Dragon was designed to showcase the latest and greatest advancements in the auto industry. As a limited production run, the first Dragon was created with the intent of generating excitement around the technology.
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Yo, are you submitting this? If you are send it to my PMs. For future reference, I don’t want people posting their own submissions here because they have a nasty habit of making the posts the length of the Torah
While I understand the sentiment, I just want to point out that one of the best parts of many of these forum challenges is being able to both show off your car, as well as scroll through and see what other cool cars people are submitting. It’s almost like flipping through a small magazine of a particular niche of vehicles that are focused on the subject matter that the challenge expresses.
I don’t think many of us mind scrolling through a thread of ads. Hell, most of us will use the bottom right reply counter to jump right to judging if we need to.
As a compromise, maybe we can just have a couple photos upfront in a post, with any form of lore or text hidden in a spoiler block?
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I’ve previously tried a brief description for some of my challenge entries combined with a picture of it or two - sometimes I encased additional lore text and/or pictures in spoiler blocks within the same post - and it worked.
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I think the length issue they mean is more about “they don’t want to have to scavenge for your .car file through the miles of CSS.”
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I planned to post all of the cars here to stick to the “theme”, but if people don’t mind the “clogged” thread as much as I do, then I don’t see a problem in people posting their cars here. As long as the .car file and the pictures I need for the style poll end up in my inbox
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This is totally fine by me too. As long as those .car files and pictures end up in my inbox, I am cool with you showing off here. Engagement is engagement
hmmm i actually quite liked the idea that the host posts the ads in theme for everyone. (for once at least)
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