KSAC 1: A mule for mom (ELIMINATIONS PART 1/3!)

KSAC 1: A MULE FOR MOM
WHAT IS KSAC?
To start with, what do I mean by KSAC?

Well, I am not a fan of everything having to become a continuous challenge series, and I think that I have said that before. It takes a lot to make a challenge series survive, to keep up interest in it, and maybe you should think twice if anyone wants to host “Taiwanese minivan with a coffee maker and teddybear wheels challenge 2” after you have posted part 1.

However, what I have realized is that right now, I am not really in a phase where I have lots of inspiration to make cars, meaning less cars for challenges and in the end, less chance of being passed down the hosting of one. What I do like (at least sometimes, lol) is hosting, though, and as you know I have hosted some standalone challenges every now and then, and I see no reason why I would stop doing that. I like doing them, I usually get a fair number of entries so I guess people like making cars for them too, and I know some people have said that they miss, for example, Doot’s occasional stand alone challenges, so I guess there is a place for them.

The thing is that putting them all under the same label means that it will be easier for me to keep track of what I have done earlier. It will also mean easier naming, since they will simply be named “Knugcab Stand Alone Challenge” (number) and then I can get creative with the naming of the actual part of the actual KSAC, without having to think that it should work for file labeling, for giving an accurate description of what the challenge is about.

So, everything named “KSAC” will be hosted by me, and there will not necessarily be a red thread that every challenge will follow. I might do something that has an actual buyer, actual backstory, detailed car buying process etc. like this time. The next time it can as well be “make the best 1998 pickup truck” and nothing more, and the third time something totally weird. So. you don’t need to put many thoughts behind what KSAC is, honestly. I just felt a need to explain now when the first one is hosted.

PROLOGUE

The february day was cold, but beautiful, as the sun was starting to set at the horizon, spreading its orange glow through the slightly fogged up sky. The snow was crunching under the boots when Annika was loading up the last pieces of gear on the roof rack of the red Lada. 12 year old Henrik and his younger sister, 9 year old Hanna, was standing, looking at the beautiful sunset. After a long day of skiing, they were all tired, but satisfied, and now it was time to head home.

“Mom, I hate this car”, Henrik said as he climbed into the frosty, red station wagon.

“Oh, really?”, Annika said while waking the engine to life with a sputtering sound. “You know, I have never said that you aren’t allowed to walk home? It will be healthy and build character”, she said with a smile.

Henrik rolled his eyes, watching how the air from the defroster vents started to slowly heat up the fogging windshield. “Mom, really….”, he sighed. “Why can’t we have something cool instead? Or at least just a normal car. Not something like this. It’s like riding in some old Russian tractor or something….”

Hanna chuckled a bit from the rear seat. “I think this car is funny…”

“Oh come on”, Henrik said. “You know nothing about cars anyway…”

“So, what if I reveal a secret, then?”, Annika asked. “Maybe we ARE going to get a new car soon.”

“Say what?”, Henrik said with his jaw almost dropping through the front seat. This was largely unexpected. “What, when???”

“In a couple of months, maybe”, Annika answered. “Your father and I have been talking about it for a while, and we have more or less decided on it now…”

“WOW! But please, please, can you promise that we will get something cool then?”

“No. We will first of all get something practical. Something that makes sense for our family. It’s not like if we have won on the lottery or something…”, she sighed. “We need something safe, something that we can trust and that won’t ruin us just by keeping it running.”

“Fine…”, Henrik answered pretending to be annoyed. But in fact, he wasn’t as annoyed as it seemed like. Maybe the next car would not be as flashy as he had hoped for. But whatever it was, it would be an improvement over the old, red, soviet tank, he was pretty sure. Hanna, on the other hand was absorbed within her own thoughts, trying to scribble things in the frost on her side window.

The sun had almost disappeared at the horizon when the Lada rolled up in front of the cozy rural home of the family, settling next to the behemoth from the other side of the cold war that was its companion. It now was time for Annika to look a bit more in depth on what really was on the market, together with her husband Roland…

SUMMARY
It is february of 2006, up in northern Sweden (yes, another challenge up here unfortunately, but I somehow have had a scenario I could relate to in my head for a long time, I promise that not every future one will be set here, lol). Annika and Roland Marklund is a couple in their early 40s, with two kids aged 9 and 12. Together they are running a small tourist business that is at least going reasonably well, but nothing that makes them rich enough to use stacks of money to light up the fireplace.

Annika is at the moment driving something that is more or less seen as a temporary solution for a car, a 1991 Lada 2104 that is getting on its last legs. Good enough for what it did cost and it has served its duty for a while, but getting something better has always been on the horizon.

There is already a 1996 Ford F150 belonging to the business, that will fulfill the heaviest of duties, so there are multiple reasons why a behemoth won’t be needed, and not wanted either, since Annika isn’t all that keen on driving the Ford, preferring something more agile and car like.

Yet, that does not mean a sleek sports coupé, since it still has to be practical over everything else. Transporting the family AND goods is not really viable at the same time in the single cab Ford (no, this challenge won’t go for the brief to replace both vehicles with a crew cab, so forget that already now). We’re talking an active family, always up to something, may it be physical activities or being creative, space is needed and so is a bit of “offroad” performance, being able to tackle bad and to an extent unplowed roads, but it should also be kept in mind that is where the ambitions does end, there will be more or less zero use for things like chunky offroad tyres or manual lockers, so if you build an offroad monster, it probably won’t get you all that far. Also, keep in mind that a somewhat nimbler package is also preferred……

Since I feel that there are multiple solutions to this problem, it could maybe lead to a somewhat interesting challenge. Just keep in mind that I am not new to this game, so my nose is rather good at identifying a yellow dairy product by now….

PRIORITIES

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PRACTICALITY
Yes, the Automation stat is a bit borked there so that will only be taken partly into account. I will also do a subjective and to some extent visual part of it, clever solutions that is still realistic may get you a little bump there. If something has small gullwing doors, a roof swap to something sleek and sloping, and a sill at the rear where you have to lift the cargo above your shoulders to load the car, a good Automation stat number won’t help you there. I admit that it might be a bit subjective, but so are lots of other things in Automation challenges like styling or engineering realism…. Just look at how real cars in the segment you’re making handled a focus on practicality and you may have a solution that is good without being cheesy.
DRIVEABILITY
It is after all a car that is a bit of an appliance and should offer an effortless driving experience.
RELIABILITY
A no brainer even here, ownership should be effortless and relaxed too, it is probably the whole thought behind buying something brand new here.
SAFETY
It is a family car after all.

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PURCHASE PRICE
We aren’t talking cheapskates, but people knowing how hard you have to work for money and why you should not just throw it away. A great value is one of the most important things in this case. Which does not mean that they want to drive a cardboard box on wheels just because it costs $3 AMU.
FUEL ECONOMY
Fuel is getting expensive in this era, and while you can’t expect supermini figures among the cars they are looking for, the more of a sipper, the better.
SERVICE COSTS
The same thing applies here. Money does not grow on trees and there is no reason to throw it away even if you can afford it in theory.
STYLING
Well, IRL it would maybe be placed a little bit lower, but in an Automation challenge that’s supposed to be serious…..it never feels good to give the win to a five fixture wonder that has maxed out only the engineering since the game is a fair bit of both. This does not mean that you have to rival Aston Martin for beauty. A well designed, coherent, realistic car that does have enough personality to not just look like “an car” will probably take you a long way here. And ugly cars generally don’t sell well which is worth keeping in mind too.
ENGINEERING REALISM
I won’t be nitpicking, but I would suggest you to look a fair bit at how real cars were engineered. I don’t say that the exact solution must have existed on an IRL car in the era but a 2 litre V10, sequential gearbox and crossplies will show that you made no research at all….. In extreme cases, engineering can lead to an instabin despite not breaking any “hard” rules.

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COMFORT
The distances are fairly long in this area and a back breaker is not viable.
OFFROAD
It should, as it was said, be able to handle bad roads and harsh weather conditions. It won’t be used for actual offroad driving, so don’t build it for that.
PERFORMANCE
We’re not talking about sports cars, but slugs not wanted, it should be able to keep up with traffic and do passing safely at least.
WEATHER RESISTANCE
A car is too much of an investment to turn brown in an instant.

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SPORTINESS
Well, it does not hurt if the car is at least a bit fun to drive even if it is supposed to be practical, right? Not a dealbreaker but it won’t be an advantage to have it at 0…

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INTERIOR DESIGN
An interior is not needed, but doing some effort will be better than having none and a really good one might give you a small bonus.

RULES

  • Stable version of the game

  • Trim and variant year 2006, Model and family might be older.
    SUV, MPV or Station wagon body. 5 doors. No hard limits on size but a Jimny or Suburban is just wrong, at the opposite ends of the scale. Legacy bodies not allowed. Since nobody asked for it, I am NOT going to download that package again.

  • No billet, titanium or race parts in the engine.

  • The engine should be able to pass at least WES 9.

  • Premium unleaded fuel.

  • At least one muffler required.

  • No manual lockers.

  • No special gearbox preferences in this case. Client can drive manual but does not necessarily prefer it. The stats you get with your choice of gearbox does matter more.

  • Radials with widths ending in “5” only. No race tires. Should be all terrain, utility, hard or medium compound. Staggered tires unrealistic on the cars we are looking for, and hence not allowed.

  • At least five full seats. A higher seat count is allowed (but not cared for all that much) and the remaining seats may be “+” seats in that case. Some realism is expected here, a larger MPV should probably have 3 rows as an example.

  • ABS is required, ESC recommended but not mandatory.

  • At least standard 00s safety

  • Max combined techpool costs car+engine $45M. No negative techpool.

  • Max price $32500

  • ATS allowed in moderation for things that can’t be done via engineering.
    No hard limits on quality, but keep it sane, not +15 interior paired with -15 safety for example, that’s something that will fall under the “engineering realism” clausule.

SUBMISSIONS

SUBMISSIONS START
14th of february, 6 PM CET.
SUBMISSIONS END
7th of march, 6 PM CET. I may give some slack for posting an ad in the thread, but I want the .car-file before that, and unless there are very good reasons why you need to send it in some other way, please use DM here on the discourse to send it.
NAMING
Car model/trim: KSAC1 - Username / The name of your car

Engine family/variant: KSAC1 - Username / The name of your engine.

INSPIRATIONS

Very well aware that not all of them are 100% representative for early 2006 euro market, use as inspiration.








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That rule makes sense considering that we’re not making dedicated off-road builds. Chunky off-road tires, on the other hand, were initially allowed, but I considered those to potentially be overkill - hence the rule change.

Also, for realism’s sake, I don’t think allowing the use of V16 engines would be justifiable either.

No, I have decided to allow all terrains but not chunky offroad.

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In other words, front and rear tire sizes must be identical… However, the OP should also be updated to reflect the explicit ban on chunky offroad tires (which haven’t been mentioned directly… yet).

I have already written which types of tyres that are allowed. Chunky offroad is not on that list. :slight_smile:

Thoughts about allowing LPG? If I remember correctly the late 2000s was the era where it became popular, making it a realistic option. Maybe including rules such as necessitating heavy internals to resist the extra forces in there could balance it out. Not sure how it was in Sweden but around here they sold conversion kits for almost every car.

Nah, LPG wasn’t really a thing here.

No import AU Falcon then I guess.

What does KSAC stand for?

Read the first part of the original post, the explanation is there.

Oh I missed it, standalone challenge, got it :slight_smile:

I shall make something cool and then make it practical!

Would it be unrealistic to have no traction aids? Switch to ABS lowers my reliability by 3 points and I don’t like that

By 2006 I would say that not even having ABS in this class was out of the question. The Peugeot 206 got rather harsh criticism for not having it as standard in 1998 I remember, and that’s a lower class of car.

CBC Quest is back, With a throwback styling!

This time meet their Wagon, a 3.0 flat 6, AWD, family car.
It’s reliable, stylish, good on gas and quick enough for a thrilling drive around the Alps!




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A quick search tells me ABS was required on all new cars as of 2004 in the EU. So it wasn’t out of the question, it outright wasn’t a question to begin with.

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*2006 Axxus MP5 Touring





*Sport 1 package shown

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Submissions are now open, since there were no major complaints about the rules, I presume they were rather good already from the start!

Also, it should be said already now maybe - this challenge is one where I will try to focus on improving my storytelling, writing and reviews. So, I won’t rush the results after challenge is finished, they may actually take some time to put up. Just so you know!

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Capable Motors Co.
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OK, a late addition despite rules delib having ended.
YES, I will allow bodies designated as “hatchback” by the game, but ONLY if you manage to make it look more like any of the bodystyles asked for in the rules than a traditional hatch. I am aware that the border is a bit fuzzy so if you’re unsure just ask.