Why not?
Because its cooling requirements alone would offset the extra power.1300 is as much as has reasonably been used in automation
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I thought the fastest cars were around the 1500-2000 HP range?
1200-1400 and mostly RWD to save weight. Adding extra power does not produce extra real results at this point, due to traction issues, and cooling requirements, and to solve the traction you need AWD, and that’s once again weight, the loop closes. So in short - you need as much power as you can put through the rear wheels reliably.
To see this clearly - in Kee, there are a few cars that are in the 6:16 - 6:18 or so on the ring. They’re all sub 1400hp and RWD, and the fastest EVER car out there is somewhere around 6:13 mark, so make the conclussions yourself 
Is there a list of fastest cars? Who is holding the record? 
Ekhm… Mine is AWD and a bit under 1600 hp 
And yeah, I could probably get the same result from RWD and a bit less power, if I only knew how to properly tune RWD cars 
@Deponte As for the record - the fastest ever is obviously Strop’s
For the fastest car with lore, story, background, brand and all that speed-irrelevant stuff, that would be mine, though it wouldn’t probably be possible without Strop’s help.
And there’s no up-to-date and complete list AFAIK.
But, aren’t we taking this all a bit too far off-topic? @SideswipeBL ? If so, then sorry.
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I’m going to be changing the companies I use - there’s a few new ones in but most of the crowd favourites are still here.
The new company list, and their parallels:
Kismet (Aston Martin, Lotus)
Ronin (Mitsubishi, Honda, Nissan)
Nakamura (Toyota, Honda, Mazda) (yes I know it’s in Burnout shh)
Aurora (Acura)
Norris (Dodge/Plymouth)
Perbacco (Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Lancia)
Nervenkitzel (Porsche)
Cogitare (Maserati/Ferrari)
Fusaro (Pagani)
Toro (Lamborghini)
Nitrex (Kindof like what Fluke was supposed to be, just my designs, not a lot of lore)
KRA (BMW/Audi/Mercedes)
Riesling (Original?)
The axed companies:
Turbina and Tigrica (sorry Bobcat fans)
Fluke (no cars!)
Daytona (horrible cars)
Veltri (Toro and Fusaro are cooler names)
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To be honest, there was no need for the companies that you have just axed, because all of them were either lost causes or never really go off the ground. As for the ones you’ve kept, making parallels to real-life equivalents makes enough sense for me not to question the logic behind them
So… You’re getting into the region of making another Porsche of Automationverse, huh…? We’ll see how will that work out 
Well alright then. No Perbacco 100 for you.
2018 Riesling Fastback
Trims order of extreme-ness
Yes I know there are no badges, too lazy to fix at this point
RWD C (Convertible) - $65120
Engine, Drivetrain
4.3 liter naturally aspirated 60 degree V8
402 hp
317 ft-lb
8500 rpm limit
289.3 PI (Performance Index)
24.4% fuel economy
91 RON fuel (Regular)
75 reliability
66.8 noise (loudness)
Longitudinal RWD, electric LSD
7 speed sequential transmission
Chassis, Body, Suspension, Wheels/Tyres, Brakes
Carbon fibre monocoque chassis
No undertray
Carbon fibre panels
Double wishbone front & pushrod rear suspension
Active Sport springs, Semi Active dampers
Sports compund tyres (295mm in front, 335mm rear), 690mm diameter
20 inch alloy rims
400mm vented 3 piston brakes front, 340mm vented 3 piston brakes rear
50 pad type
50/50 brake bias (I have no clue how to balance brakes)
Interior, Assists, Safety
4 seats (2+2)
Premium interior + premium infotainment
Electric power steering
ABS, TC, ESC, LC
Advanced 10s safety
Basic Statistics
71.2 reliability
2946 lbs
$65120
$1535 service costs
21.9 mpg city 28.3 mpg highway
Cruises at 1862 rpm (average)
188 L of cargo space
Performance Statistics
0-60 in 4.1 seconds
Top speed of 173 mph
60-0 in 27.6 m
1.2 g in 20m corner
1.15 g in 200m corner
RWD - $65120
Engine, Drivetrain
4.3 liter naturally aspirated 60 degree V8
402 hp
317 ft-lb
8500 rpm limit
289.3 PI (Performance Index)
24.4% fuel economy
91 RON fuel (Regular)
75 reliability
66.8 noise (loudness)
Longitudinal RWD, electric LSD
7 speed sequential transmission
Chassis, Body, Suspension, Wheels/Tyres, Brakes
Carbon fibre monocoque chassis
No undertray
Carbon fibre panels
Double wishbone front & pushrod rear suspension
Active Sport springs, Semi Active dampers
Sports compund tyres (295mm in front, 335mm rear), 690mm diameter
20 inch alloy rims
400mm vented 3 piston brakes front, 340mm vented 3 piston brakes rear
50 pad type
50/50 brake bias (I have no clue how to balance brakes)
Interior, Assists, Safety
4 seats (2+2)
Premium interior + premium infotainment
Electric power steering
ABS, TC, ESC, LC
Advanced 10s safety
Basic Statistics
71.5 reliability
2964 lbs
$65120
$1535 service costs
22.2 mpg city 28.9 mpg highway
Cruises at 1862 rpm (average)
188 L of cargo space
Performance Statistics
0-60 in 4 seconds
Top speed of 178 mph
60-0 in 27.6 m
1.2 g in 20m corner
1.15 g in 200m corner
RWD S - $73320
Engine, Drivetrain, Gearbox
4.3 liter twin-turbo 60 degree V8
608 hp
461 ft-lb
8500 rpm limit
430.1 PI (Performance Index)
20.6% fuel economy
91 RON fuel (Regular)
70.5 reliability
53.0 noise (loudness)
Longitudinal RWD, electric LSD
7 speed DCT
Chassis, Body, Suspension, Wheels/Tyres, Brakes
Carbon fibre monocoque chassis
No undertray
Carbon fibre panels
Double wishbone front & pushrod rear suspension
Active Sport springs, Semi Active dampers
Sports compund tyres (295mm in front, 335mm rear), 690mm diameter
20 inch alloy rims
400mm vented 3 piston brakes front, 340mm vented 3 piston brakes rear
50 pad type
50/50 brake bias (I have no clue how to balance brakes)
Interior, Assists, Safety
4 seats (2+2)
Premium interior + premium infotainment
Electric power steering
ABS, TC, ESC, LC
Advanced 10s safety
Basic Statistics
67.5 reliability
3185 lbs
$73320
$1629 service costs
19.3 mpg city 26.1 mpg highway
Cruises at 1739 rpm (average)
188 L of cargo space
Performance Statistics
0-60 in 3.8 seconds
Top speed of 196 mph
60-0 in 27.7 m
1.2 g in 20m corner
1.14 g in 200m corner
AWD S - $99600
Engine, Drivetrain, Gearbox
4.3 liter twin-turbo 60 degree V8
608 hp
461 ft-lb
8500 rpm limit
430.1 PI (Performance Index)
20.6% fuel economy
91 RON fuel (Regular)
70.5 reliability
53.0 noise (loudness)
Longitudinal AWD, electric LSD
7 speed DCT
Chassis, Body, Suspension, Wheels/Tyres, Brakes
Carbon fibre monocoque chassis
No undertray
Carbon fibre panels
Double wishbone front & pushrod rear suspension
Active Sport springs, Semi Active dampers
Sports compund tyres (295mm in front, 335mm rear), 690mm diameter
20 inch alloy rims
400mm carbon ceramic 3 piston brakes front, 340mm carbon ceramic 3 piston brakes rear
50 pad type
50/50 brake bias (I have no clue how to balance brakes)
Interior, Assists, Safety
4 seats (2+2)
Premium interior + premium infotainment
Electric power steering
ABS, TC, ESC, LC
Advanced 10s safety
Basic Statistics
67.5 reliability
3346 lbs
$99600
$2276 service costs
19.1 mpg city 26.2 mpg highway
Cruises at 1739 rpm (average)
188 L of cargo space
Performance Statistics
0-60 in 2.6 seconds
Top speed of 192 mph
60-0 in 27.8 m
1.21 g in 20m corner
1.16 g in 200m corner
AWD R - $106200
Engine, Drivetrain, Gearbox
7.8 liter naturally aspirated 60 degree V12
791.7 hp
597.8 ft-lb
8000 rpm limit
549 PI (Performance Index)
21.5% fuel economy
95 RON fuel (Premium)
76.8 reliability
79.1 noise (loudness)
Longitudinal AWD, electric LSD
7 speed DCT
Chassis, Body, Suspension, Wheels/Tyres, Brakes
Carbon fibre monocoque chassis
Downforce undertray (50 downforce)
Carbon fibre panels
Double wishbone front & pushrod rear suspension
Active Sport springs, Semi Active dampers
Sports compund tyres (295mm in front, 335mm rear), 690mm diameter
20 inch alloy rims
400mm carbon ceramic 3 piston brakes front, 340mm carbon ceramic 3 piston brakes rear
50 pad type
50/50 brake bias (I have no clue how to balance brakes)
Interior, Assists, Safety
4 seats (2+2)
Sport interior + standard infotainment
Variable hydraulic power steering
ABS, TC
Advanced 10s safety
Basic Statistics
71.3 reliability
3414 lbs
$106200
$2852 service costs
13.3 mpg city 16.4 mpg highway
Cruises at 1332 rpm (average)
188 L of cargo space
Performance Statistics
0-60 in 2.4 seconds
Top speed of 201 mph
60-0 in 27.0 m
1.25 g in 20m corner
1.2 g in 200m corner
EDIT: Fixed tyre measurements
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2018 Ronin Ryujin
It’s named after a Japanese dragon god that controls the ocean’s tides with magic rocks.
Of course it’s fast.
Finally got this body to look good. Took some effort but I think it’s one of my best-looking cars, especially at the front.
GT - $47880
Engine, Drivetrain
3.5 liter naturally aspirated 90 degree V8
323 hp
235 ft-lb
7900 rpm limit
220.1 PI (Performance Index)
24.4% fuel economy
95 RON fuel (Premium)
75.4 reliability
43.5 noise (loudness)
Mid-longitudinal AWD (40/60 F/R split), electric LSD
7 speed automatic DCT
Chassis, Body, Suspension, Wheels/Tyres, Brakes
Glued aluminum monocoque chassis
Semi clad undertray
Carbon fibre panels
Pushrod front & rear suspension
Active Sport springs, Semi Active dampers
Medium compound tyres (300mm in front, 320mm rear), 725mm diameter
21 inch alloy rims
420mm vented 4 piston brakes front & rear
50 pad type
50/50 brake bias (I have no clue how to balance brakes)
Interior, Assists, Safety
2 seats
Premium interior + premium infotainment
Variable hydraulic power steering
ABS, TC, ESC
Advanced 10s safety
Basic Statistics
68.8 reliability
3118 lbs
$47880
$2755 service costs
28.7 mpg city 45.7 mpg highway
Cruises at 1418 rpm (average)
145 L of cargo space (for perspective, the Audi R8 has about 116 L)
Performance Statistics
0-60 in 4.6 seconds
Top speed of 178 mph
60-0 in 28.5 m
1.12 g in 20m corner
1.03 g in 200m corner
GTS - $50880
Engine, Drivetrain
3.5 liter twin-turbocharged 90 degree V8
470 hp
435 ft-lb
7300 rpm limit
336 PI (Performance Index)
23.9% fuel economy
95 RON fuel (Premium)
71.9 reliability
43 noise (loudness)
Mid-longitudinal AWD (40/60 F/R split), electric LSD
7 speed automatic DCT with flappy paddles
Chassis, Body, Suspension, Wheels/Tyres, Brakes
Glued aluminum monocoque chassis
Semi clad undertray
Carbon fibre panels
Pushrod front & rear suspension
Active Sport springs, Semi Active dampers
Medium compound tyres (300mm in front, 320mm rear), 725mm diameter
21 inch alloy rims
420mm vented 4 piston brakes front & rear
50 pad type
50/50 brake bias (I have no clue how to balance brakes)
Interior, Assists, Safety
2 seats
Premium interior + premium infotainment
Variable hydraulic power steering
ABS, TC, ESC
Advanced 10s safety
Basic Statistics
67.5 reliability
3336 lbs
$50880
$3318 service costs
27.7 mpg city 42 mpg highway
Cruises at 2812 rpm (average)
145 L of cargo space (for perspective, the Audi R8 has about 116 L)
Performance Statistics
0-60 in 3.2 seconds
Top speed of 197 mph
60-0 in 28.5 m
1.11 g in 20m corner
1.02 g in 200m corner
556R - $67560
Engine, Drivetrain
3.5 liter twin-turbocharged 90 degree V8
566 hp
475 ft-lb
8200 rpm limit
411.4 PI (Performance Index)
21.7% fuel economy
98 RON fuel (Super)
71.6 reliability
46.5 noise (loudness)
Mid-longitudinal AWD (40/60 F/R split), electric LSD
7 speed sequential manual transmission because racecar
Chassis, Body, Suspension, Wheels/Tyres, Brakes
Glued aluminum monocoque chassis
Semi clad undertray
Carbon fibre panels
Pushrod front & rear suspension
Active Sport springs, Semi Active dampers
Semi slick tyres (320mm in front, 350mm rear), 725mm diameter
21 inch carbon fibre rims
420mm carbon ceramic 4 piston brakes front & rear
70 pad type
50/50 brake bias (I have no clue how to balance brakes)
Interior, Assists, Safety
2 seats
Sport interior + standard infotainment
No power steering
ABS
Advanced 10s safety
Basic Statistics
72.4 reliability
3135 lbs
$67560
$3062 service costs
26.3 mpg city 42.2 mpg highway
Cruises at 1626 rpm (average)
145 L of cargo space (for perspective, the Audi R8 has about 116 L)
Performance Statistics
0-60 in 3 seconds
Top speed of 212 mph
60-0 in 26.4 m
1.21 g in 20m corner
1.11 g in 200m corner
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Props to you for figuring out how to fill out the rear! I had the same idea for the tail lights based off the Saleen S5 Raptor but couldn’t figure out how to get around the curve at the top. I suck at making modern cars haha. Looks good!
Those last two designs look the part, and have performance to match. In particular, I dig the taillight loop on the Ryujin.
UE4 has basically zero in-game bugs for me but it crashes so often and for seemingly no reason (eg I move the camera, game crashes, the next day it’s something else) that it’s become almost impossible to create a car without being frustrated to the point that I just give up. I deduced in the previous versions that it was down to post-processing being set too high, and this fixed the problem, but now it’s back.
It amazes me that these random crashes, which I have been having since the UE4 game was released, were fixed in the update before this one, and came back in the car designer overhaul as if they weren’t even acknowledged.
It has been 218 days since Open Beta R1 was released. I’m afraid that at this point it’s unacceptable, even for an open beta. This is more of an open alpha, especially since the actual core intended gameplay (campaign) hasn’t even been implemented yet.
So don’t expect any new cars until a hotfix rolls around for a bug that has existed for 8 months.
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Hello Fella!
Can you please post the Specifications of your PC? (Processor, Windows version etc) That could help to narrow it down somewhat. If the game crashes randomly we have to fix it, also i hope you always send the BugSplats?
Also: What also could be is some derelict files causing a bit of a hiccup. Go to your \Documents\My Games\Automation folder and clear all the settings.lua and maybe the .db files (attention, you may lose your cars and engine, so dont if you dont want to - its optional) then go to C:\Users\YourUsername\AppData\Local\AutomationGame\ and delete the Saved folder completely.
That way you practically reset the game to “Day 0”, which could possibly help if there is some file laying around from OpenBeta Day1 that causes an issue on Day218.
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Here are my specs
Windows 7 SP1
Intel i3-6100 @ 3.7 GHz
8 GB of ram
AMD Radeon R9 200 Series
I’ll try deleting the Saved folder later. As in, right after posting this.
EDIT: This seems to have worked. I’ll post the first-gen Ryujin today or tomorrow.
EDIT 2: No it didn’t. Fuck.
Sorry to hear you’re getting a bunch of crashes, I suspect the reason we’ve not acknowledged/fixed this bug, is I don’t think it’s one that anyone has reported to us, and it seems like it might be relatively rare.
Tagging @zeussy incase he has any questions about it.
We know about the current random crash issue. The issue is deep in UE4 that we have been working with Epic trying to solve it for the last 2 months.
The main issue with this crash is we cannot replicate it in house. Some people get afflicted by it really badly. Others never see it (unfortunately like us). From that data I have gathered, it seems to affect about 3% of Play Sessions.
Back in Early November, I did send out an email to all people who had bug reported it and provided an email address in the Bug report. Thanking them for reporting the issue, and explaining that we are working on it.
In the UE4 Open Beta Discussion Thread had also several back and forths with @Radializer who also gets this issue, building a specific version to try and log and pin point the issue.
I am working on the issue, I am also working on the rest of the game as well. And try to progress with the issue as we get more data on it.
Thank you and sorry Zeussy.