All the inspirations are sedans (and one coupe), but are wagons, hatchbacks and fastbacks allowed?
The 3rd brake light is often hidden inside the rear window, and it doesn’t sound like interiors are required. If someone wants this look and isn’t doing interiors, can they just say “its inside” or do they still have to 3D a light into the interior?
Also minor UX critique: the orange and yellow circles look really similar, almost identical on some displays. Might wanna find another color, like blue.
It just needs 4 doors and 5 seats, with styling being important. I will say the visual inspirations are mostly just there because sporty family vehicle meant sedan at the time, but hot hatches and wagons are welcone, though the latter is totally shafted stats wise right now.
I will edit the bubbles!
80k techpool? Not 80M?
Passing power is better reflected by 80-120kph time than 0-100.
Price? Standard or lower Superiority levels, or will he pony up for a full-fat Supremacy trim?
No fixed price, but if you go crazy, you better be twice the car you’re twice the price of.
80K is a typo- it’s supposed to be 80M.
0-60 is intentional and based on Virginia road laws. Very few roads are above 55mph speed limit.
What is “dedicated offroad sealing”?
Diminishing returns is the nature of the beast. An E34 M5, by the numbers anyway, isn’t five times better than an Accord that’s a fifth its price, but nobody cross-shops the two… some general expectations of what class we’re in would be helpful.
It’s not, but if you submit an Accord you’ll be thrashed on your key stats anyways. Take it less literally and more just keeping an eye on those diminishing returns. I think your priorities and the title communicate that there’s a few viable methods to winning. I could see something like an “Integra Type R” being competitive with “BMW M5” and “Top Spec Legacy GT”
Also, “Corrosion Resistant Steel” is offroad polymer sealing. I don’t know why it’s not called “Offroad Undercoat” or something, since that’s what it is.
It seems you have learned a lesson from me when I hosted JOC4B - this should help clear up any confusion.
Correction: the rear seats must be full-sized, not +3.
The third brake light can be mounted at the top of the rear fascia or in the interior, just ahead of the rear window.
It is possible, but not necessary, to have the car meet WES 9 or later - but considering the era in which this challenge is set, a 3-way catalytic converter of some sort will be required.
No, it must seat 5. I don’t care how you do it, because comfort and safety are priorities.
WES9 is possible yes. I’m not mandating a 3 way though. As mentioned, other than passing WES8, emissions is just a tiebreaker.
I do not care where your 3rd brake light is as long as it falls under “center high mounted” since how that looks varies wildly.
I know it isn’t mentioned but do interiors matter at all?
I’m assuming it won’t be necessary (or even desirable) to install a fully detailed interior.
Nope. It’s not specified, but nope.
Is there a max on how much quality you can use per slider?
Also, is there some sort of price range we should try to aim for?
No max. Price is vague intentionally, just keep an eye out for diminishing returns.
Haven’t touched this car in months, since building back in April. Think I found the car for this challenge after making it a 4 door instead of a 2 door sedan.
IP CELESTIA 2000 GTT
For this year, our classic sports sedan and coupé, the Celestia has gotten a total makeover. All new, aerodynamic styling. Now with double wishbone front suspension, for an even better driving experience than ever before.
The 2000 GTT model is the top of the range among the sedans. 2 litre, turbocharged 212 hp inline six. Limited slip differential. 16 inch sports tyres on lightweight alloys. Half leather sports seats. Leather sports steering wheel and gearknob. Spoilers front and rear.
IP Celestia 2000 GTT sedan. Because practicality doesn’t have to be boring.
this probably isn’t gonna win but here goes
The EUDO Z5 is an oddball mexican sports sedan which is way ahead of it’s time.
includes a 5-speed advanced auto which allows you to switch from auto to manual mode.
Starting at only $23,500
There’s a new member to the Sidewinder family
We gave it…
2 more drive wheels
2 more cylinders
and 2 more doors
Wells Sidewinder 4