QFC14 - Attitude in the Alps

Sure thing, I’ll respond on your submission thread later as well.

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I’m curious about the tech pool point buy, do you care to share which categories recieved the most tech points?

Missing price on mine and petakabras.

The techpool change fucked me, I was at 30k or so with the original 50 and I didn’t recheck the rules had changed so it ended up being very expensive with just the 25, plus massive engine and staggered tyres. Still deserved win from @Maverick74 , quite a good looking car I must say as well as good stats.

For whatever little it helps, this is what I opted to go for with the tech pool buys

So I got quite far, and I am happy with the result. The simple engine of the original car (SOHC-12) delivered only 230 horsepower, even bored up to 3.7L. The DOHC-24 layout surely increased the service cost.
However, I did not expect to score among the best of the rest. One last minute change I have done actually five minutes before submitting was going from Premium to Sport interior, as the rules clearly stated: Sportiness > comfort. That simple klick surely helped gaining 2 or 3 places…

The styling should be controversial, Primus Italia is known for making cars that stand out in the crowd, however, I might have overdone it.

The challenge and the ruleset were fun, and again thanks to @NormanVauxhall for making a good Car even better, so that we have been able to sniff at the exhaust of the finalists.
Also my respect to you, @donutsnail for handling a huge amount of entrants within a short period of time. Solid performance as a showmaster.

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My engine was far too expensive, I should of toned it down to a V8 that was more sensible, Luxury interior also killed my service costs as well as tyres that were 110 width different. My overall price was 52300 after reducing my techpool so yeah, wasn’t what I wanted but still I had fun, good round :stuck_out_tongue:

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I wonder if I tried to spread the points too thin for mine. The only reason I put so much in the valvetrain was I was aiming for a European Sports Coupe with an American sourced engine in it

4 tech points unlocked geared LSD which provided a big boost to stats, which is why I had that amount in it :slight_smile:

Guess I missed the Geared LSD unlock trick. I put 7 into engine family and chassis each as the biggest cost drivers so that I could go for some quality there.
7 more quality for interior as the third highest cost driver and to unlock luxury cassette and the remaining four into aero to unlock fully clad and also some cheap aero quality to compensate for the low engine power. (Mid transverse kinda limited what I could do here but I didn’t have the time to fully explore engine alignment options.)

and tfw you discover your laptop has no print screen key

This was my techpool; putting +5 into brakes instead of interior was likely a mistake

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Well done to the top four, shame it doesn’t show the top five :rofl:.

Techpool seems to have gone ok with this round so hopefully no problems using it in the future

Since when is the number of cylinders what dictates a car’s sportiness? Which one is the sportiest according to you, a 4 cylinder Caterham Super Seven or a 2 tonne automatic FWD V8 Cadillac Eldorado?

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I went for a light car with modest power and it worked well. I think some race track stats play a role, like possible G-Forces and accelleration.

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Regarding the CS trim of my entry, here’s a more detailed look at its stats, had I submitted it for this challenge:

In hindsight, this would have been too track-focused for the client’s tastes, so I made an S trim that sits between the CS and base model (premium interior and 8-track player, but still no power steering, and a slightly softer suspension setup, though not as soft as the base car) - its stats are as follows:

I’m not sure if this was enough to win, but at least this specific trim would have been much more competitive - 50 sportiness in 1977 (even with tech pool) would have been quite remarkable. At any rate, I am surprised that nobody else used the Bolide mod body. As for this comment on tire stagger:

For comparison, all three trims of the Archer have a more modest 80-mm tire stagger between the front and rear tires, i.e. the front tires are 80 mm narrower than those at the front. However, the trim I submitted has 225-section fronts and 305-mm section rears - 245-section fronts and 325-section rears (as used on the S and CS trims I made later) would have been more effective.

I submit that it is not the tire stagger that makes costs blow out of proportion, it is top speed going beyond “Z” rated tires that seems to do it.

Riley, your car did 190mph, which is faster than the Z tire rating. That means the tires will have to be custom-made just for your car. Service costs will shoot up (just like supercars do). Your top speed would have bested the Countach by a lot. Hell, it was faster than the fastest car in the world at the time, which research shows was the Gr.5 Porsche 935, at 183mph.

This and the need to use sealed beam headlights (mine are the rectangle type) sorta makes a 70’s early 80’s supercar.

All three trims of my entry (including the one I submitted) could do 185 mph or so, but they all had Y-rated tires (good for speeds of up to 186 mph/300 km/h) - any faster than that and the tire speed rating would have been bumped up to (Y) (in parentheses). That speed rating denotes safe use at over 186 mph (300 km/h), but increases the cost even further compared to a Y- or Z-rated tire (the latter is an obsolete rating used for any tire that can withstand at least 150 mph/240 km/h).

Thank you for contacting me and giving me the chance to cooperate with someone :wink:

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I am currently building a 90s compact car, you might get it for CSR as deadline is far away in december, so this would be enough time to build a rally variant…

Correct, Automation selects the equivalent modern tire speed ratings (V, W, Y), you can’t control this but it seems to be based on theoretical max capable speed. Electronic limits are useful if available, you can see the service cost dive way down, and the cost of the car itself also drops because there’s a set of those expensive tires on the car to start.

But in '77, those would have been “Z” rated.

For this competition, if it were real-world, we would have been calling out to the tire manufacturers negotiating with them to figure out the technology to get a tire that would work for the car, and co-develop it so our super cars could even exist.

Fascinating stuff, really.

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all I am gaining from this is what whenever I do a competition, I am making sure Techpool is not involved at all