QFC64 - Call of the West [RESULTS OUT]

@mart1n2005, I’m not trying to say this needs to be a challenge for full-size American cars, although admittedly that’s where my mind went with the setting and backstory here. I think there should be a performance metric, but it could be anywhere from a four star to one star priority depending on what the intended market is. If the target is more along the lines of imports and American compacts of the day, then performance could appropriately be a lower priority. I think it’s up to Kreator what kind of cars this competition is supposed to be about, but I also think the market segment needs to be more narrowly defined, whatever it might be. I think there is probably a way this challenge could be done effectively to allow cars from broader market segments to be competitive–such as having husband and wife have different preferences pointing more toward different ends of the size spectrum—but I think that would be harder to pull off for a first time host and in a QFC that is supposed to be judged quickly.

This is a good point, and my suggestion of specifying one chassis type is probably the one I felt least strongly about because of this. My point is more that the current scoring weights give body-on-frame a distinct disadvantage. By my rough math, choosing body-on-frame gives about a 15% reduction in price and about a 25% reduction in safety. Especially since safety is weighted more heavily than price, unless you are up against the price limit so that the price reduction allows you to buy an advantage in other categories (which does seem possible with the $14k cap) there seems to be no good reason to pick ladder frame.

If both chassis types are allowed, then price would probably need to be moved up to a two- or maybe even three-star priority to create more of a balance between the price-safety tradeoff and make both chassis types competitive.

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Also, is there any rules on ATS?

Thanks for the feedback, all.

Challenge rules are now tighter, targeting American wagons from “compact” to full size. Inspiration list has been updated as well.

Bumped up price as a priority to try to balance ladder vs monocoque better.

Also pushed back the rule delib deadline by 12 hours to accommodate the big changes.

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Challenge is Open!


Come one, come all to QFC. Subs are open, but only for a week!

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1965 Renzo Grand Famiglia

By the 1960s Renzo had carved a small, but loyal fanbase in the USA and part of that fanbase came thanks to the Grand Famiglia.

To all intents and purposes, this is merely Renzo’s Largest European estate car with some wood nailed to the sides and made a bit more flashy. Whilst a consistent top 5 seller in the Italian Estate car market, in the US it never quite achieved the same popularity due to having an engine that didn’t start with V and end with 8.

[Side note: This car reminded me why I despise dealing with Wood Panelling, with this contributing to this car reaching a new fixture record for me [220~]

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Cutty Caldera - Rio Grande Custom


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Holy hell that looks good.

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are modded fixtures allowed?

Yes, modded fixtures are allowed.

The deadline is ~36 hours away and there haven’t been many subs yet. Do people need more time to complete their builds?

  • I need more time
  • Nah, I’m good
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Is there an option for “I probably need more time, but it’s a QFC so you should probably just keep the deadline as is”? :zany_face:

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The 1965 Comanche Albatross

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Comanche’s first production car of the 1960s is the Albatross, A 5 meter long, 1405 kilogram wagon costing $11700. It has a 2.7L V6 that produces 114 horsepower and 194nm of torque, this gives the Albatross a 0-100kph time of 12.2 seconds. It features a 5 speed manual gear-box, Solid disc brakes and Hydraulic power steering.

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when switching between my 1960s custom company and the sandbox company, the tech pool price skyrockets, whyy? (15mil in the custom company, 50mil+ in sandbox company) which counts? i can ofc just lower them if the sandbox company counts but then it will ofc have way worse stats and become more expensive. am i missing something or does these cars stats need to be so low for the price?

I would keep the car in the sandbox company so that it’ll import correctly on my end. Sandbox allows for each car to have a custom techpool and with no national modifiers.

national modifiers? well that mustve been it, sigh, gotta watch as i degrade my car now :frowning:

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Deadline Extended

To allow more entrants to submit, the deadline has been extended by 48 hours to 2025-11-05T13:00:00Z. You will have24 hours after that to post an ad.

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will you look at the cars (actual cars, not the ads) sent before the deadline (ex: to give feedback) or youll wait for it to end and just then start looking at them? if yes ill send it if not then ill keep it till the deadline, maybe something new comes to mind till then.

I’m traveling with a laptop that hardly runs Automation at all, so styling is out of the question, but if anyone would like a last-minute engineering collaborator, DM me.

I’ll look at the car when it’s sent. Although, one resubmission is allowed for each participant.

1965 Winson Sapphire 2200 Deluxe Estate

A technologically advanced, tasteful take on the middle class european family car.

Car by me and @Tsundere-kun

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