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The Car Shopping Round Rules and Stats

This is the rules and meta thread for the Car Shopping Round.

What is the Car Shopping Round?

It’s a sorta-weekly rotating challenge that has been running since January 2016. The host is the (first available) winner of the previous round. The premise of each round is that a particular client, described by the host, wants to buy a certain car for whatever needs and desires they have. They provide a brief and everybody who wants to enter submits a car with a pitch hoping to convince the client to buy their car.

Joining is simple:

  • Look at the OP of the current round thread for the client information and the car they are looking for
  • Ask questions until you are clear on the rules
  • Build your car. Name the model and engine family [CSR current round] your usename and the trim and engine variant whatever you like
  • PM the host of the round your exported car
  • Post pictures with relevant information on the thread for some advertising
  • Make sure the host knows if you already know you can’t host the next round
  • Wait for the results
  • If you win or you are the highest placed available user, you’re the next host!

Hosting is… demanding but keep to these principles and you should be ok:

  • Within 24 hours of the previous round ending, make a new thread with the title [CSR current round]: title of the round
  • Link to this page: The Car Shopping Round Rules and Stats
  • Define the client and the car they want
  • Make sure your rules are clear and be prepared to answer any questions within reason, and update your OP accordingly
  • Set a deadline, preferably within 7 days of the round starting
  • Write your reviews and post results to determine the next host in a timely fashion (see below for definition)


All your questions answered here

But that’s not how most cars are bought in real life??? Also how is this fair?

Yes, this isn’t necessarily how buying the car works in real life. It’s also highly subjective. The data and the numbers that Automation metrics provide are interpreted and weighted in varying ways per round and that’s part of what needs figuring out each and every round.

Exactly how do I enter?

  • Look for the thread with the current round in the title.
  • Read the OP, as that will tell you what kind of car the client needs.
  • Make the car. Make sure you save the MODEL and ENGINE FAMILY with the name CSR current round number - your username. The Trim and Engine Trim can be whatever you want.
  • Post a picture of the car and relevant information in the thread. Some people do ads. Unless specifically required (and it shouldn’t be), you don’t have to be a PhotoShop master to sway the host.
  • Export your car using the export button.
  • PM the resulting file to the host with the name of the car and anything else they might require.
  • One car per user per round. No exceptions.
  • Always specify in the thread whether or not you will be available to host. We know it’s not always possible to predict the future, but winning or placing and being required to host then suddenly saying you can’t is kind of uncool. Hosting is demanding. Play it safe.

I’m not clear on the rules, help!

  • The golden rule of all challenges is, if the rule isn’t written in the OP, it doesn’t exist.
  • Always ask questions to your satisfaction before making and submitting your entry.
  • Remember this is a subjective challenge, so asking to be spoonfed on exactly what kind of car the client wants may not be reasonable. Use your judgement.

There are so many people, I don’t think I’ll ever win!

  • Winning a CSR is 3 parts meeting the brief, 1 part X-factor, and 6 parts luck.
  • Don’t stake your perception of self-worth or even relative worth to the community by your CSR track record, it’s a game, and this is a forum about a game.
  • If you find yourself getting salty over how your unique approach to each round’s rules isn’t netting you any accolades, take a break and go outside.

I actually won! What next!

  • Did you say you couldn’t host? If not, you are the next host!
  • Create a new thread in the Community and Competitions section. Title will be [CSR previous round + 1]: title of your round
  • Link this post at the start of your OP:
  • Describe your client
  • Describe the car you want
  • Specify a submission deadline (ideally no more than 7 days after the start of the round)
  • Wait for the PMs to roll in
  • Make your decision and write your reviews and post them in the same thread
  • Do all this in a timely manner

What is a timely manner?

  • The new thread needs creating within 24 hours after the results of the previous round are finalised, or in a timeframe agreed to by the community and the new host
  • The judgements and reviews should ideally be posted within 72 hours of the round being closed to submissions. However, some allowance can and should be made for large rounds of over 30 vehicles, to the tune of an extra day or so for every 10 additional vehicles entered.
  • Some small allowances may be made, depending on the consensus of the participants, if extenuating circumstances are highlighted in advance.
  • However if it’s all going awry, refer to the Troubleshooting section below.

What kind of rules should I use when making the round?

We’ve been having some trouble with this lately. Read carefully.

  • Basically you only have the right to judge as strictly as your rules are clear.
  • At the very least you must give people an idea of what kind of car you want, or even what kinds of car you will consider. Figure out whether every single parameter is important to you.
  • If you didn’t mention it in the rules, you shouldn’t mention it in the reviews. People will get salty at you for doing this.
  • It is okay not to be absolutely strict on everything e.g. you may choose to say “the car can not consume more than 7L/100km” or you cay say “I would prefer the car to consume no more than 7L/100km”. But saying “fuel eco is sorta important” is getting vague. Maybe too vague. The only way that would be acceptable is if you said something like: “fuel economy is not a strict factor, however, between two cars with equal stats/desirability, the car with better fuel economy will win”.
  • It is also okay to declare that you are going to favour subjective parameters like looks or “the feel” of things over hard stats like drivability, comfort etc. BUT be warned: people don’t read minds. If you aren’t very good at communicating your impressions you will get roasted and rightfully so. Choose wisely.

IF you must use the phrase “be sensible” or “be realistic”, they MUST be qualified anywhere in the post by context and vehicle type e.g. “you are expected to use common engineering choices for a family car from Europe in the 1960s.” We have users of all ages and from all over the world here. Any less context is insufficient. We have had so many problems with this phrase that the next time somebody uses it inappropriately and there are problems that require my intervention, I will start handing out suspensions from hosting rights.

Lots of people said they couldn’t host. How many winners do I pick?

  • Try and rank your entries in an ordered list long enough that somebody will be able to host.
  • If that’s too difficult don’t worry. Troubleshooting will have you covered.

There are a lot of submissions. How am I going to write everything up on time!?

  • It is not uncommon to receive more than 30 cars
  • To help yourself try if possible to start writing as soon as you get the first car
  • And put all the relevant information on a spreadsheet
  • But still this can be too much. The original CSR was made for quick blurbs. Some people were able to go an extra mile and wrote like 300-500 words per car and that really blew things out
  • It’s generally okay to write short blurbs (<100 words) for each car if you intend to go into more detail with a short list later.
  • It can also be okay (if you are confident) to start off with a “Bin” post that immediately discards all the cars that completely failed to meet the brief.
  • Just make sure whatever you write conveys that you did properly consider the car and not ignore it completely.

What if the circumstances/conditions of my round change mid round?

  • If the rules are written and the round is open this is rare
  • However sometimes a big update or a new mod body that significantly changes the playing field may drop in the middle of the round
  • If the problem is big enough this may necessitate restarting the entire round. Usually Dev Updates that wreck the game balance come in advance so this can usually be scheduled around
  • As for mod bodies, the original rule was that if a new mod body drops during a round it is disallowed, because it would be a disadvantage for those that had already submitted. However if the host wishes to make an exception they may do so at their discretion. It does need to be discussed in the thread for clarity.


ah shit here we go again

  • CHEATING: Exploits, hacks and alt accounts are obviously forbidden. You get called out, I get called in. If you’re proven to have done a dodgy, you’ll be barred from CSR indefinitiely. On a lighter note sometimes it’s just an honest mistake and there’s a mod or a body that behaves funnily. There’s no need to punish anyone there, just have to make a note of those and move on.
  • FAILURE TO COMMENCE ROUND: the new host has failed to post round rules 24 hours after the end of the previous round without notice. The next available host on the list of winners takes up the mantle. If there are none, then the highest ranking available user of the previous round will host.
  • FAILURE TO CONCLUDE ROUND: The host has failed to post round results 72 hours after the round submission deadline without notice. Usually there’s some reasonable explanation and if possible the round will be judged. If this is not possible in a timely fashion and the consensus from participants is to move on, then the highest ranking available user of the previous round will host the next round. The round itself may be concluded by the previous host at a later time, or, if abandoned, a poll may be held and decided by all.
  • ABORTED ROUNDS: Sometimes shit happens, and sometimes, your premise which sounded great in your head ended up a steaming pile of shit that just won’t work. Sometimes it’s better to pack it in at this point. It’ll be treated as a failure to commence round.
  • SERIOUS DISAGREEMENTS ABOUT THE RESULTS: If I’m not already there with the :popcorn:, tag me (@strop) or find me on Discord. I’ll come in like a wreeeeeeeecking baaaaaaaaall. If that doesn’t work we’ll know because the mods will come in with their banhammer and start smacking everybody, myself included, because I’ll be more interested in spitting :fire:. I also will not be able to arbitrate objectively if I’ve entered the round (rare) or I’m hosting the round (much rarer still).


  • Don’t tag people to congratulate them on winning or placing. It ruins the surprise for them. Muting isn’t a practical solution.
  • As the host you are allowed and even encouraged to tag people when reviewing their cars
  • The host is there to pick the winning car, not the winning host. If you are suspected of sending a car to the :wastebasket: because you don’t want the user to host, bad things will happen.

This next section will eventually be replaced by a tally of all the users who entered etc. for the first 64 rounds

Previous Winners:

  1. nialloftara
  2. 8bs
  3. Dragawn
  4. Leonardo9613
  5. titleguy1
  6. asdren
  7. Sebesseg
  8. koolkei
  9. AirJordan
  10. DeusExMackia
  11. oppositelock
  12. phale
  13. HowlerAutomotive
  14. KLinardo
  15. thecarlover
  16. Dragawn → strop
  17. Der_Bayer_von_Awesome
  18. Rk38 & koolkei
  19. phale ->Kubboz
  20. phale
  21. Madrias
  22. HighOctaneLove
  23. EnryGT5
  24. Leonardo9613 → rcracer11m
  25. phale → abg7
  26. BobLoblaw
  27. Denta
  28. HighOctaneLove
  29. NormanVauxhall
  30. 4LGE
  31. Ornate
  32. Leonardo9613
  33. EnryGT5
  34. thecarcrossoverlover
  35. marcoalla
  36. Rk38
  37. strop holy fucking shit finally
  38. Leedar → HighOctaneLove → Dragawn
  39. AirJordan → gridghost
  40. AirJordan
  41. Dragawn
  42. doctor_narfy
  43. Rk38
  44. titleguy1
  45. thecarobnoxiousluxobargeSUVlover
  46. EnryGT5
  47. Rk38
  48. NormanVauxhall → Leonardo9613
  49. enryGT5 → phale
  50. thecarlovermclovinvanlover
  51. KA24DE
  52. TR8R
  53. TheElt → conan
  54. NormanVauxhall → accent
  55. JohnWaldock
  56. gridghost
  57. NormanVauxhall
  58. bastormonger
  59. conan
  60. kubboz → Der Bayer → asdren → titleguy1 → goblin95 → Mr.Computer → abg7
  61. nialloftara → dragawn
  62. strop → theElt
  63. NormanVauxhall → Leonardo9613 → koolkei → conan
  64. thecarlover
CSR 72: Fancy on the Farm
[CSR70]: A Car the Cops Can't Catch
The Car Shopping Round 67 - Old and Wise [FINAL RESULTS]
[Final results!] The Car Shopping Round 66: A car for a hero
CSR79: Family Matters [Round Over, Results Published]
CSR82 - A Businessman's New Car [ENTRIES CLOSED]
CSR 76: Rock 'n Rollin'
CSR 118 - The Craigslist Crawl
CSR 125 - Alternative Sports? Alright, Ikouzo! [Finished]
[CSR69]: A sports car for a French guy
CSR 100 - Malicious Compliance
CSR78 - Succeeding the Wankel
CSR132 - Modern Art - [DE STIJL- Finals]
CSR95 - Mount for a medic
CSR 73 - The Fight For Freedom
CSR87 - Scotty Doesn't Know
CSR 88 - ''Back to The Future'' (FINAL RESULTS PUBLISHED!)
CSR 89 - "Cheri Cheri Lady" (RESULTS)
CSR 90 - "Dieselgate Aftermath" [FINAL RESULTS UP]
CSR 92 - The Daily Commute Demon [FINAL RESULTS UP!]
[Finished] CSR 94 - I bless the blizzards down in Antarctica
CSR Ninety-Seven - NOYFB
CSR 99 - Hello Guvnor [FINISHED]
CSR 101 - Dreams of Anime 「ENDED AT LAST!」
[FINISHED] CSR 102 - A Free Decision
The Car Shopping Round 104 - Time to take the Outback out back
CSR 105 - Does this *$#!ing thing need fuel again?
CSR106 - Late Night Hours
CSR 107 - Wake Up (It's 1984)
CSR 108 - Get (Rally) Schooled
CSR 109 - Straight Outta Retirement Home
CSR 110 - Snow It Is
CSR 112: A Railroader's Shooting Star
CSR114 - A Vision of Luxury
CSR116 - Big Attitude, Small Appetite
CSR117: Rumble in the Bronx
CSR 118 - The Craigslist Crawl
CSR 119: The Kings of Summer, But Abridged [Submissions Closed, Semi-finals Published]
CSR120: The Funky So And So [Finals Released]
CSR121 - Kool Aid and Frozen Pizza
CSR 144 - Serenade [FINISHED]
CSR123 - Slightly Super Saloons (THE FINALS)
CSR 124 - Quibbles and Facets - Finals
CSR 125 - Alternative Sports? Alright, Ikouzo! [Finished]
CSR126 - Pointless Filler and a Boring, Unimaginative Setting
CSR 129v2 - The Midnight Courier
The Car Shopping Round 130 - Retail Therapy
The Car Shopping Round 131 - Wanderlust and Quarantine's Angst
CSR 133 - Missing Detective Prologue [Investigation Over]
CSR135: "The new city"
CSR 138: A Thousand Words (Finished)
CSR 139- Luxury, Uncompromised (Completed, Winner Announced!)
The Car Shopping Round 136 - New Millenium, New (old) Beginning - ENDED
CSR Ninety-Seven - NOYFB
CSR122 - Uncompromised Compromise [completed]
CSR 143 - Slippery and Cold |Tier 1 finalist released
CSR 142: A Place in My Heart (Finished)
CSR 141- Corporate Schmorporate (Winner announced, finals out)
CSR 140 - (You're) Having My Baby [RESULTS OUT]
The Car Shopping Round 65 - On the Case in Diesel City
The Car Shopping Round 67 - Old and Wise [FINAL RESULTS]
[CSR69]: A sports car for a French guy
CSR 71 - Dye-ing for beauty
CSR74: Back On Track
CSR75: Teaching the new generation
CSR79: Family Matters [Round Over, Results Published]
CSR81: A Personal Oil Crisis [RESULTS PUBLISHED]
CSR83 - One night in Bangkok [ENTRY IS OVER: Final Results has been published!]
CSR84 - Years of Youth [FINALS, RESULTS UP]
CSR 85 - A Wise Investment
CSR 86 - A Time of Crisis