The official AMW thread - 2024 AMW Phoenix

Well, I made two engines for this car when developing it: this 2.0 turbo I4 and a 3.5L NA V8 (with 520hp). Needless to say that both of the engines are expensive to make and require some high quality parts to produce. But the turbo I4 is not only cheaper and slightly more economical, it’s also lighter and the car overall performs better with this engine than with the V8, surprisingly enough. I thought for sure that it would be faster with the V8 because of the better drivability but I was wrong.

Well, Tom, that was your way to keep the car under 1000 kg? Well, my strategy was just to put carbon fiber everywhere xD

It is also from carbon fibre. And you know, when you’re hunting for performance, every kg matters. So if the engine weighs 10-15kg less while also delivering more performance (despite having 10hp less), I don’t see why I wouldn’t go for it.

Yes. Inline 4 is always lighter than V8.

Here is the new Mamba, with revised aesthetics and 3 different engines available!

EDIT: Don’t mind the typo, the 1.5L is also an I4.

Shortly after the outgoing generation of the Eagle has been reviewed and compared to other rivals in its class, here is the announced new generation!

One of the major changes can be seen from the outside, and that is the new bodyshell we are now using, mainly because the old one was just kind of dated and also because this is just as small, even a little bit lighter and just as sleek.

The second major change is that the differences in suspension tuning between the eco, fun and sport lines are now much more meaningful. Eco is now tuned for more comfort and drivability, sport more towards sport, and fun for somewhere in between but still more on the drivability side. Also, there is now a Base version with a naturally aspirated Inline 6 engine which features the same suspension setup as the 6-cylinder Eco models.
Eco and Fun models have 16 inch alloy rims on medium compound tires, whereas the Sport versions get 17 inch alloy rims on sport compound tires.
All models except for the Base version are available in either rear-wheel-drive or all-wheel-drive. The reason the base version isn’t available with AWD is that if you buy the base version, you want something cheap and fun. And since RWD is both cheaper and more fun, AWD is not an option for it.

Many engines have been retuned.
The 2.5 fun engine now has a broader torque band and slightly improved economy compared to the previous tune.
The 2.5 sport engine has slightly increased power, slightly lower torque but a significantly wider torque band, an increased redline of now 7400RPM and significantly higher throttle response (now 45.0 instead of 37.4). All that while also making the engine more efficient.

The 4.5L fun engine has been slightly retuned for better drivability and slightly improved economy.
The 4.5L sport engine has been changed to now produce 450hp instead of 400hp due to turbo tweaking and cam profile optimisation without compromising drivability or economy, but making for much better performance.

The Eagle HP now comes with AWD as standard. For those brave enough to opt for RWD only, they can have it be RWD only (with no extra charge). This is mainly because the Sport X 8 is stupid fast accelerating with the new retuned engine, and we don’t want people going like “Why does the HP cost almost twice as much when it’s actually slower?”

Also, the prices have changed. This is because the outgoing Eagle was built in the old build before markets (and therefore estimated MSRPs) were in the game. Now that they are, we have a much clearer impression of how much we want to charge for each individual model. Our customers will be happy, though, as most (if not all) versions are now cheaper than before!

I CAN FLY!!!

jumps off bridge and falls in water

[quote=“Speedemon”]I CAN FLY!!!

jumps off bridge and falls in water[/quote]

I can fly too. Airborne (as a company) got it’s name from custom '40 Chevrolet that went airborne from a jump, so…
BTW. Great design Tom, as always.

Thanks Oskiinus! :slight_smile:
Also, if you had the money, would you buy one? And which version?
I don’t know about you guys but I think the Sport X 8 would be an absolute top seller in today’s market because it’s kind of like a Nissan GTR for the “Premium sports car” market (as opposed to the supercar market that the GTR is in) for a much lower price than, say, a BMW M4 or even a Hellcat.

If i had the money i would get the Eco 6.

Looks like a great deal

Yeah, the Eco 6 is also a totally reasonable choice! I mean 6.3 seconds from 0-100km/h is faster than a Toyota GT-86, combined with the fuel economy of my parents’ Volvo V40 diesel (with the 1.9L 95hp engine) and also the price (in Austria) of the cheapest BMW 1series currently on sale makes this a very appealing offer indeed.
Personally, I’d probably go for the Sport 6 because I’ve always wanted an E36 M3 and the Eagle Sport 6 is like that car in many ways: similar power, similar weight, similar acceleration time, focussed on handling and driving experience, etc. Only that the Eagle is more modern and therefore has a better chassis, a more efficient engine, better suspension, better brakes and it’s a new car! It’s hard to find an E36 M3 in good condition these days, and you can never really be sure how long it’ll last even if you buy one that appears to be well-kept.

However I have to say that I’d also be very tempted by the Sport X 8 but I think it would be a bit too much for me to handle. I think I would underestimate my speeds in that car because it accelerates so fast it’s hard to get used to for someone who doesn’t drive fast cars very often.

Can u post a download link for the AMW Straight track?

dropbox.com/s/6s0o4rz714xgl … t.zip?dl=0

Just unzip it into Documents/My Games/Automation/Tracks

Let’s jump back to 1967. Vector Automotive had just released the Intrigue Rallye (which can be seen on ConeDodger240’s youtube channel). Of course, AMW had to build a car that would be able to compete with the Intrigue Rallye’s performance. The Intrigue had a 3.2L V8 with a bit over 200hp and it weighed slightly over 1000kg. AMW took a different approach and took a smaller body with shorter wheelbase and just 3.68m overall length, then made the panels from light-weight fibre glass and put a 2.6L 16V I4 engine with 171hp into it. With its 4-speed manual transmission and no equipment on the inside other than the basic essentials (and standard 60’s safety), this car weighed just 767kg! Being RWD and running on 175mm sports tyres all around, this car is guaranteed to put a smile onto your face! 0-100km/h is completed in 7 seconds, it’ll reach a top speed of over 200km/h and best of all, it’s also cheaper than the Intrigue Rallye at 12.075$

On top of that, it set the trend for future small, compact sports coupes. Especially the rear end, which other cars such as the Mercedes 190 Evo got influenced by (not the other way round).

So what do you think? Instant classic or fading temptation?

Greets,
Tom

Well… I think that this little coupe would be like “cool and unique classic for company fans, but just a piece of ugly old car to others”

This probably won’t be a classic like the Escort is. The quirky and big wing will make it remembered though.

I don’t know what it takes for a car to become a classic, why do you think this one wouldn’t make it? 7.0 seconds from 0-100 is not too shabby for a small sports coupe in the mid-late 60’s, and it’ll lap the Airfield track over a second faster than al Alfa Romeo Brera 2.2 and almost as fast as a Fiat 500 Abarth SS.

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I don’t know what it takes for a car to become a classic, why do you think this one wouldn’t make it?[/quote]

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Simply because speed does not equal classic. To be a classic this thing has to achieve properly, Escort did so in Group 4 rallying while using the Cosworth BDG with about 80hp more than the Magpie. Unless you make racing spec magpies, this will be a fun car with a big wing.

Due to some demand of a car that’s (even) faster than the Magpie that I showed you last time (which, with offroad tyres and small suspension changes, was also used in rallyeing) here is a new version that’s ready to eat up the race tracks!

Aesthetically, we added some black vents on the bonnet and some stripes on the side. Of course, the changes don’t end here. We retuned the engine using some even higher quality parts, which allowed us to sharpen the cam profile and increase the rev limit to 6500RPM. On top of that, this engine has race intakes and exhausts, as well as DCOE carbs instead of 4-barrels for better responsiveness. Overall, it is now making 225hp compared to the previous engine’s 171.
The tires are now semi slicks, with solid disc brakes all around. Underneath the car, we have a semi-clad undertray to provide downforce for optimal handling. And that is no joke, as this car will easily achieve over 1.2g through the corners. Also, the stopping distance of just 35.3m from 100-0km/h is very impressive for its time. So is the acceleration from 0-100MPH in 12.4 seconds. And the airfield lap time of 1:32.0 which is not only faster than a Seat Leon Cupra R, it’s almost as fast as an E46 M3!
Despite makng over 50hp more than the Rallye Magpie, the “Race-Spec” (as we call it) is also another 5kg lighter, at 762kg. This gives it a power to weight ratio comparable to a Porsche 991 GT3, allowing it to complete the Nordschleife in 9:02 minutes and of course, it doesn’t have any driver assists.

The theoretical price for this car is 20.000$. Who wouldn’t want one today, for this kind of money?

Greets,
Tom

Also, I think I’ve mentioned this before, but in our 2015 (or soon to be 2016) models Standard Infotainment is certainly enough for everyday needs. Here’s a list of what standard infotainment means:

  • Central Locking

  • Electric Windows front and (on 4-doors) rear

  • a sunroof

  • none of the following: cruise control, electric seats, electric door mirrors, heated (or cooled) seats, massage seats, heated steering wheel, Head-Up-Display, etc.

  • What you do get is this, the AMW Central Control unit (CCU). It looks like a tablet, and is based on one. It was jointly developed by AMW and LG. [Also, the right area is where the GPS goes, I haven’t added that to the picture yet]
    http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/Thomas_Telsnig/LG-AMW%20tablet%20no%20GPS_zpsaac9ztnl.png

Here’s how it works:

Left upper area is for the radio. It shows you what sender you’re currently listening to, then the frequency, and the artist and song name. You get a slider for the volume which mutes if you double tap it or just drag it all the way to the left. The arrows are for switching between senders (or individual songs if you’re listening to your own music).

Left lower area is for everything related to the climate control. It shows you the current temperature inside the car and you can switch between Celsius and Fahrenheit by simply tapping the temperature. To the right of the temperature display (and I will find a more elegant way of integrating this) you have 3 buttons to heat the front, rear, and/or side windows. The area inside the window icons will turn reddish when they’re activated. The snowflake with the “-” sign is for lowering the temperature, and the sun with the “+” is for raising it.

In the big right area will be the display for the GPS. I haven’t added that to the picture yet. But of course, it’ll have a search function and also a button for voice activation and one for muting the announcer. If you double tap into the area of the GPS, it’ll go fullscreen. Then, to leave fullscreen, a white X will appear in the bottom left corner.

That’s it. That is what standard infotainment means in today’s AMWs. The CCU was developed to be simple to use and very efficient in what it does. You can see that it has an AUX port and 2 USB ports. Underneath the CCU there will be a compartment big enough so you can put your phone in there, for example if you wanna charge it while you’re driving.
Since the CCU is basically a tablet, it is very very light, much lighter than most modern oboard computer systems. It’s also a lot simpler to build in for our engineers, it doesn’t require as many wires so there’s gonna be more space under the bonnet (which we’d rather use for a bigger engine). Also, if you need a new one it’s not gonna cost you multiple thousands of dollars/euros/younameit.

What do you think of this idea?

Greets,
Tom