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TONIGHT, ON SMNN!

The global automotive industry has once again been rocked by a series of scandals which threaten to reduce the credibility of car cumpanies worldwide even further, just like the Baumhauer diesel scandal of 2016 and the Hinode Group safety and emissions scandals from a few months ago did. These companies really are just like me frfr, as they keep finding new ways to keep disappointing others further and further.

Anyway, the scandals that are currently in the spotlight are as follows:


Allure Escapade and Arima Syscvara

@DuceTheTruth100 and @Koviico

Wells and Arima have been fined by the authorities due to false advertising for their luxury SUV models, the Escapade and Syscvara. Although the advertising materials claim that the car has 5+2 seats, the car in fact has 7 full-size seats. A totally credible, blue-checkmarked user with ten different flags on their username on X, formerly known as Twitter, stated:

“Ain’t that a good thing? I’m sick and tired of being crammed into the incredibly tight seats that the third row that other cars usually have. The government is stupid for penalizing something like this!”

The minister of transport responded to this post, formerly known as a tweet, by saying:

“No”

Binned for having full-sized third row seats.


SpeedWerks Boxer JET-800

@ScintillaBeam

Following a series of legal and financial troubles, SpeedWerks, a company from God knows where, has filed for bankruptcy, with the government literally telling them to drop dead. Known as a maker of… uhhhhhhhhhhh… Actually, we know nothing about this company and their products other than their engines being very outdated, their hopelessly underfunded R&D division, and their cars’ propensity to consume high-octane fuel when it’s not supposed to.

Binned for not posting an ad, 2012 engine variant year, having +0 turbo techpool despite having a turbo, and using 98 RON fuel.


Satuma Seraph

@IsaacDies and @blanderrrBNG

Binned for not following the naming scheme


Bideney D300LV6

@HybridTronny and @moroza

Finally, Bideney has come under government scrutiny for a wide range of offenses. The chairman of Bideney Group and Nordwagen have jointly stated in a recent press conference that the emissions figures for their cars have been inaccurate because of a defeat device that has been placed inside the car’s ECU that tampered with the results of the emissions tests.

The pair have also stated that the D300LV6 has been falsely advertised to run on RON 95 fuel, when in fact the car requires RON 98 to run properly. Both companies have said that they will launch an internal investigation and punish those responsible for these irregularities.

Binned for emissions (WES 7) and fuel octane (98 RON), as well as having +5 techpool in some areas.

In other, unrelated news, two engineers from Bideney and Nordwagen respectively have been found dead in their homes from three self-inflicted gunshot wounds on the back of their heads. These engineers are known to have expressed concerns about the legality of their companies’ products in the past.


That is all for automotive news. Next up, a local wolf interest group is campaigning for the city government to demolish all brick buildings in the city and replace them with new structures made of straws and sticks…

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Some competitors here really do have a bad luck streak at the moment

The latest Bideney draft to have left Nordwagen’s HQ runs on 95, passes WES11, and has no +5 techpool. Something went wrong. As for the dead engineers… they must be impostors. Neither Nordwagen nor its parent company DCMW have ever put out an illegal product. Something went very wrong indeed, and the investigation being launched in Basara is an external one, not internal.

UPDATE: the issue has been found and solved. Awaiting a formal government response.

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Can we get an update on this?

As I often wrote, game challenges are no important thing compared to real life, but after almost a month it would be at least good to know how the current status is, as there was put a lot of effort in the entries.

No salt poured, not willing to put pressure on you, just a friendly request.

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It would appear all of my embedded images have disappeared… huh. Will fix.

Hey. Firstly, I’d like to apologize for the lack of updates, and for not informing y’all about the delays earlier as I had in previous challenges.

As it turned out my assignments for end of this semester were more difficult than I had earlier expected. I thought that I’d still have the time to continue writing reviews, but the workload really got much heavier about a week after I released the last round of reviews.

Despite that, I’ve managed to write reviews for about 70% of all the remaining entries. However, I still have a hard time deciding on the finalists since you all sent in some pretty good entries both in terms of engineering and design. Choosing to bin one car over another felt straight up disrespectful at times, since I do see a lot of effort being put to some of them.

Since I will be free from any assignments after today, I will be able to finally continue writing the reviews wihtout worries and hopefully release them within the next few days before moving on to the final reviews.

Once again, I apologize for the lack of updates, and I thank you for your patience and understanding.

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If you are using Discord links to embed your photos, that might happen now. I think they’ve started making them temporary.

Yes, familiar feeling. The better is the enemy of the good, as we say over here…

Ah, no problem at all. You got a peaceful ping, we got a friendly update, so there is nothing out of line here.

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one eternity later…




Open Media Corp. Headquarters, Osaka, Japan

In a desperate attempt to complete the government’s mission to “remind the general population of the joys of family life” lest their broadcasting rights be taken away and all their assets be burned to the ground (PPE, intangibles, goodwill, and even talents and employees), the staff at Open Media Corp. have been frantically scouring the internet for any cars that would suit the brief.

With a list of about 15 cars, the team was ready to present their findings to senior management. Just before that however, something interesting came up on the TV:




TONIGHT, ON SMNN!

Supreme Court, Tokyo, Japan

The Supreme Court has ruled in favour of Bideney and Nordwagen after months of legal battles regarding some of the companies’ automobiles.

A few months ago, the Ministry of Transport alleged that Bideney and Nordwagen had been falsifying emissions test results, and falsely advertising their cars to run on RON 95 fuel. However, sufficient evidence has been gathered that the government have in fact been testing a slightly older version of the D300LV6, which had not received updates to make them compliant to current standards.

As a result of the negligent misconduct conducted by ministerial staff, the minister for transport has publicly apologized to both companies and the general public in a recent press conference. However, this did not stop Bideney and Nordwagen from filing a countersuit against the Ministry of Transport. The plaintiffs argued that the ministry’s false report had caused millions of dollars in damage to both companies due to corrective action that was in fact unnecessary, as well as lost sales due to the loss of consumer trust. Although the case has not officially been closed, several people who are familiar with the matter have said, under anonymity, that the matter will be settled out of court.

In other news, two Ministry of Transport staff have been found dead on the grounds of the Ministry of Transport’s headquarters. The deceased were reportedly looking at their phones while walking in the hallway prior to their death and, because they were distracted, ran into a window which was not there. Our thoughts and prayers are with them.

The Bideney D300LV6 is now legal and no longer in the instabin




“Wow, that’s great for Bideney and Nordwagen!” a staff member said, “That makes it 16 cars! Now, let’s get back to work…”




ROUND 1

(literally the only round before the finals)


Bideney D300LV6

@HybridTronny and @moroza

Without a doubt, the the D300LV6 is the single most comfortable car this round. Wonderful! However, everything starts to fall apart however once you take a look at the engineering used to get to this point.

Firstly, the $45,000 car with handmade interior. Some might say “Handmade interior at a cheap price !? !? Satisfactory!”, but this really is just a prelude of what’s to come: minmax beyond belief.

An example of this is the engine. It is a modest 3,020cc V6 which actually produces an impressive 300hp. Again, things fall apart when we get to the details. Peak engine power comes at 7200rpm, and the engine itself redlines at 7800rpm as if it were a Honda engine from the 90s and early 2000s. Again, it’s not totally egregious (even though luxury cars these days would either have a turbocharged engine, or made a lot less power per litre) but the minmax spirit really shows.

And finally, as arguably the most obvious sign of minmax, the D300LV6 uses incredibly large truck/SUV-sized tyres, leaving no room between the tyre and the wheel arch. Combined with the ultra-soft suspension that gives the D300LV6 cornering abilities equivalent to a body-on-frame SUV (the ladder frame SUVs actually pulls more cornering g’s than the D300LV6 in this case). A setup like this is bound to make the car prone to bottoming out, but Automation stats say no so I guess it won’t happen at all! There’s still a lot to talk about but point is this isn’t making it to the finals

A shame really, as the minmaxiness of this car really overshadowed the Bideney’s otherwise good design.

Verdict: Binned


Rhaina Preserver Type-C

@happyfireballman

The Preserver is notable for having the largest cargo volume of all the cars in the competition. However, the car also has the lowest drivability, comfort, and safety stats despite having the latest safety tech due to its body and frame construction. Fuel consumption is also the highest of the lot, and the engine uses individual throttle bodies which is normally not seen in a car like this.

Verdict: Binned


FamiHaul EXCELL (7-seat)

@supersaturn77

The FamiHaul has been on the market for about 10 years now and its design has always looked 10 years old even when new. The car looks awkward, with incredibly long overhangs The engine is the smallest of the bunch, measuring at 1.9l, but has two turbos which bring the total power figure to 268hp. Impressive, until you see the power graph:

The car has decent stats and the second-lowest purchase price of the bunch, but its engineering and design quality puts the car out of the competition.

Verdict: Binned


Mara Rodyna 4.0 KE7 4Trak

@AndiD

The Rodyna is the most compact car of the bunch and has been around in the market for twelve years now. It is the cheapest car in this class today and is actually the most reliable and the cheapest to service. However, it is also one of the least safe cars relative to its peers due to its small size and subsequently low weight. The company has not updated the car’s safety systems to modern standards

The same can also be said about the engine. It is incredibly rare to find a V8 jammed into an MPV, and yet the Rodyna has one. The engine is very lazy however, pushing out 250hp out of 4 litres of displacement, something that can be achieved by a modern turbo 4 cylinder or even a smaller, naturally aspirated 6 cylinder engine. Fuel economy is quite good, but perhaps this is due to the car’s small size and lazy performance.

Styling leaves much to be desired but is far from the worst.

Verdict: Binned


Kaizen Guide 27

@66mazda

The Guide has one of the highest drivability as well as sportiness among the entries, which is impressive considering that MPVs usually have a disadvantage in sportiness. However, since it has relatively sporty suspension tuning, the Guide has less comfort than most other entries. Still, the Guide is cheaper than most entries, and is a solid contender overall.

Verdict: Moves On


Bellomont BM8

@LS_Swapped_Rx-7

The BM8 excels in the drivability and comfort departments, with good fuel economy and looks to boot. A solid and very well-balanced entry overall.

Verdict: Moves on


Yamaguchi LeGrande

@Happyhungryhippo and @mart1n2005

Luxurious, comfortable, and very powerful, the LeGrande is a very competent MPV that is certainly no slouch.

However, the LeGrande is held back by its low safety score thanks to its use of light AHS steel for the chassis, and the use of a premium infotainment system also holds comfort back.

Because of its large and turbocharged engine, the LeGrande is one of the most powerful entries this round and as such has a high sportiness stat, but any kind of spirited driving is held back by the suspension tuning (the soft spring settings specifically) which results in high body roll, and also somehow reduces comfort levels. A solid design, but at this state it still feels half-baked.

Verdict: Moves on


Zephorus LV ELWB

@Riley

The LV is one very imposing beast, measuring at a hefty 5.44m long with a 3.4m wheelbase. With its 720hp engine and mean looks, the LV is absolute overkill. However, the LV falls short in terms of drivability and comfort, although it also has the highest safety rating of all the cars in the competition due to its sheer size and weight (2.65 tonnes!).

Verdict: Binned


Tioro Amardi

@Oreology and @iivansmith

The Amardi too is a beast, with its power output being second only to the Zephorus. It is a very great-looking vehicle, with an equally stunning interior design. The Amardi is also very comfortable, safe, and quite reliable despite all the technology that gets put into it.

Verdict: Moves On


Shenhua Kukri

@ErenWithPizza

The Shenhua Kukri is a perfectly capable car for the job, with good drivability, comfort, fuel economy, and reliability considering that it is one of the cheaper cars around. A very solid entry, but its exterior design is unfortunately outclassed by other entries this round.

Verdict: Binned


Acclima Mirthira

@IncredibleHondaFit

Much like the Kukri, the Mirthira is a very capable MPV, boasting very good comfort and drivability stats, as well as being the most reliable car this round. The exterior design is not bad, but the car unfortunately looks about 8-10 years older than it should be.

Verdict: Binned


Duwang Kommando

@azkaalfafa

The Kommando’s design can be best described as being very commanding and almost Cyberpunk-like. The front fascia is adorned with an intricate grille design, which continues onto the side of the car and back of the car. Further details like radars and cameras also populate the car, showing the sheer attention to detail placed on the exterior design.

The star design from the exterior continues inside, as illuminated dots pepper the dashboard and door cards. Material choices are also incredible as the colours of the leather, wood, and even the infotainment UI complement each other. The 2nd row captain’s chairs are absolutely decadent and jam-packed with buttons and other details. THEY EVEN GOT STARS UNDERNEATH THE GEAR LEVER!!!

There is so much to love about this car, but having a long review at this stage spells trouble.

The Kommando falls apart when it comes to engineering, however. Like the Bideney, the Kommando has a 3,019cc engine. And, like the Bideney, it also produces 300hp, with peak power coming in at 6700rpm and a redline at 7500rpm. The engine also uses individual throttle bodies, which is cool but not realistic. Again, nothing too egregious but quite annoying.

The Kommando also has solid brake discs up front, which is not ideal for braking performance, which was made even worse by the complete lack of any brake cooling airflow. There is no undertray either, which would have improved fuel economy and protected the car’s underside from damage, among other benefits

With more “conventional” or at the very least more realistic engineering choices, the Kommando would have made it to the finals. Yet another real shame that this has to be binned.

Verdict: Binned


Menschen Sahara SV6

@the-chowi

The Sahara’s design is solid if a bit bland, though this isn’t much of a problem for a car in its segment since it still looks neat and clean. The car is a jack of all trades, with good comfort, drivability, fuel economy, and reliability stats although it isn’t exactly the #1 best in any of those regards.

Although its price is on the higher end, you really can’t go wrong with the Sahara.

Verdict: Moves On


Wolfe Citadel

@karhgath

The Citadel has a funky design, especially at the rear. The car packs a punch and has good drivability and comfort. However, this comfort is achieved by a handmade interior. Without the handmade interior, the Citadel’s poor suspension tuning shows, being just a hair more comfortable than the very sporty Kaizen Guide.

Verdict: Binned


Voltari Spår Executive RS-Line 3.2T

@vero94773

The Voltari is a sharp-looking vehicle and for the most part it is well-engineered. However, the Voltari falls short in terms of drivability and comfort compared to other cars, especially given its price and the use of air suspension. The Voltari is also one of the least reliable entries, second only to the Zephorus. Still, the Voltari is one of the safest cars around, despite having less safety equipment than most other entries (standard 20s safety).

Verdict: Binned


Halvson Gateway P6 GX

@lotto77

The Halvson is the only body-on-frame SUV of the bunch besides the Rhaina and as such, it suffers in terms of safety, comfort, and driving dynamics. This is remedied by the use of independent suspension on all four wheels, which gives the Halvson good comfort. Still, it is one of the least reliable cars of the round and its large, 4l engine produces an impressive 277hp, with a torque curve more akin to a diesel engine.

Verdict: Binned


FINALISTS:

@the-chowi
@Oreology / @iivansmith
@66mazda
@LS_Swapped_Rx-7

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Interior: what’s the actual complaint here? It fits in the budget and it works.

Engine: plenty of luxury cars and crossovers had NA 3.5 sixes making 310-330hp c.2018. Toyota 2GR, Benz M276, Honda/Acura J35Y4, to name some. 300 out of 3.0 a couple of years newer is hardly a stretch.

Tires: fair point taken.

For me at least, a handmade interior implies Rolls Royce, Bentley, or Maybach levels of fanciness as the description for handmade interiors suggest:

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The D300 does not look like an extremely expensive and low-volume car to me and neither do any of the cars entered into this round, which is why I’ve penalized any car using a handmade interior like yours and karhgath’s.

True but those engines have a peak power at 6400-6600rpm and most other non-sports car engines peak at 5500-6500rpm, whereas your engine peaks at 7200rpm which is 90s Honda VTEC territory (like the C30A, B17A1, or H22A). Generally, NA engines making about 100hp per litre exhibits this kind of behaviour.

If this were a sports car round, your engine would have been very good. If your engine managed to make those 300 horses at lower revs it would have been good too. For this however, it simply smelled like cheese to me.

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90s? They still do that. My 2012 CR-V literally makes peak power at redline. (K24Z6, 185hp at 7k RPM, redline 7k, i-VTEC engage 5k)

Surely you don’t think your K24 '12 CRV is the same as these 2020 luxury MPVs?

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you have been called out for a cheesefest, and you are famous for this. Not meaning this salty but in terms of realism, your cars often aren´t that accurate.

It always depends on the kind of competition, in a CSR I would have sent to hell your car, too, without a doubt, at least for that what @S_U_C_C_U_L_E_N_T pointed out. For a TMCC, propably not, but that´s not my descision here.

Well, @mart1n2005 , sorry for my propably not really great engineering. The soft suspension was meant to maintain comfort, but sadly I went over the top there as it seems. For the light chassis material, I wanted the car to be lighter to reduce consumption and emissions, propably a bit overdone there.

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All I’m saying is that it isn’t strictly unrealistic for something to be tuned that way. Maybe not a luxury MPV in most cases, but it’s not bin-worthy, as far as I’m concerned

(Plus if Honda is brought up, I will reference my little turtle. It is simply how I work)

It is bin-worthy because the host deemed a peaky small vtec engined van in a field of luxury vans does not make sense. If this was a small crossover/van that’s sporty and can get to highway speeds decently fast challenge, then your argument would’ve made a lot more sense.

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In terms of binnability,

a) the host has full discretion in this community, as a rule.

b) Moroza’s van, which I believe is the one being discussed right now, had other engineering that the host considered objectionable. The engine was only an example.

The host has the stats all on hand as well as the car; do not be eager to ignore their judgement.

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Fair enough. The rest of it is certainly a cheesefest, no doubt, I just find dissing of variable valve trickery objectionable.

Of course, such a thing does not make sense for a van, let alone somehow trying to have a Rolls-tier interior, not at all…

It’s been a just over a week, any news on this? I feel on edge that so many challenges are sat in the “closed” stages but we’re just waiting for judging.

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I feel it’s just a busy time for everyone as I think it’s exam or assignments week lol

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