Tsukuba Touge Time Trial | AutoBeam Challenge | Finished

GO 2!

FWD vs RWD, Turbo vs N/A. I’m 10 seconds faster with the less powerful N/A FWD, but that says more about my driving skillz than the cars.

TITTITT Garage Jazz.25 (tuned 1987 Swanson 225SC, white)

  • Original 2,5L 18v Boxer 6, RWD
  • Stage 2 Advanced Turbo tune up for 170->310hp
  • Full Stelth bodykit, neon lights

SPORK Sports AT3 (tuned 1996 Swanson 220SF, orange)

  • Original 2,0L 16v Boxer 4, FWD
  • Stage 3 N/A tune up for 170->240hp
  • Reworked rear end, possibly canon
Bruh

Yes, the newer 200 is smaller, for rallying to accomodate the new 300 series (basically a smaller, uglier and cheaper 400)
Yes, one of them is LHD in photos only
Are those japanese plates, IDK

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–NOTICE | Submission Period Ending–

  • All the legal entires I have received have been evaluated. There are few late entries but not enough to delay anything. A few entries still required some fixing. 48 hours deadline as per the previous notice.
  • I will start releasing the result as soon as I have finish buttoning up a few things.
  • With how well this challenge have been received. I will be looking to host a similar challenge in the future. I do have a theme in mind already but would rather wait until the supercharger update both for having more game feature and to have a bit of a rest.
5 Likes

–Result : Part 1–

1982 Valkyrie Tricolor Works Phoenix @passengerpigeon

Specs

  • Layout : FR
  • Horsepower : 410hp
  • Weight : 1,451kg
  • Tire F : 180/65R17
  • Tire R : 205/55R17
  • Tire Compound : Sport

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:18.287
  • Run 2 : 2:17.939
  • Run 3 : 2:18.054

Impression

Start : A deceptively peaky torque curve combined with long gearing means the car would wheelspin if you dump the clutch and bogged down if you don’t. At least the throttle is easy to control. Gear ratio is actually surprisingly good for attacking the course as first gear can be use for slow cornering and second for fast ones.

Stop : The brakes feels like it’s slightly small but easy enough to control. The brake balance is going towards the front too much which means it can be use for panic oversteer correction.

Steer : Too small sports tires means for the weight and power the car understeer too much so you cannot cornering quickly. At least you can use the throttle to correct but that doesn’t provide quick timing. Body roll is minimal but there’s a point where it’s diminishing return and you cannot use weight transfer properly.

Smile : In the end it’s a muscle car. Maybe it’s fun to power-oversteer but doesn’t really do proper drifting as you cannot really weight transfer the car. It feels just as slow as the timing shows.

  • Score : 19 / 22 / 13 / 6 = 60

1985 Valiant Ventis SR-E (Touge Restomod) @mart1n2005

Specs

  • Layout : FF
  • Horsepower : 258hp
  • Weight : 952kg
  • Tire F : 225/40R17
  • Tire R : 225/40R17
  • Tire Compound : Semi-Slick

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:03.476
  • Run 2 : 2:03.939
  • Run 3 : 2:03.597

Impression

Start : A very responsive engine with decent power and torque, which combining lightweight body and decent gear ratio makes a forgiving car to control throttle input. It puts power down the road very effectively as well.

Stop : The brakes feels pretty great. It’s just the right amount of force so it’s extremely easy to control. There’s no fade either. The balance is decent but perhaps slightly more rearward bias than ideal would be great for turn in?

Steer : The tires are massive for this car weight which means it’s extremely grippy and responsive. The balance is great for front-wheel-drive car although maybe it can be a bit more adventurous with rear end. There’s also still enough bodyroll for weight transfer to be effective and thus you can throw it around pretty good.

Smile : A great hot hatchback. Fast and easy to control. Lightweight and responsive. It’s a pleasure to attack the course with. Although it does left a tiny bit of wild on the table.

  • Score : 26 / 28 / 26.5 / 9 = 89.5

1967 Sparrow 220 ST Sportline Fastback @passengerpigeon

Specs

  • Layout : FR
  • Horsepower : 143hp
  • Weight : 1,018kg
  • Tire F : 160/70R15
  • Tire R : 160/70R15
  • Tire Compound : Medium

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:31.671
  • Run 2 : 2:30.971
  • Run 3 : 2:30.960

Impression

Start : A decent engine with plenty of power and torque. The issue is with the drivetrain with too short gearing and no limited slip differential. It cannot put the power down effectively at all.

Stop : The brakes surprisingly don’t feel that bad. Although it is clearly underpowered despite the low weight. You have to treat it as an on-off switch. The balance is good for compensating the handling characteristic.

Steer : The tires are terrible, combined with weight distribution and lack of limited slip means the car cannot be driven very quickly at all. If it’s oversteering you cannot move forward and if it’s understeering the inside rear nearly lifts and you cannot move forward either. At least there’s no bodyroll to compound this effect and the balance is towards oversteer which can be utilise.

Smile : A surprisingly satisfying car when driven well, which sadly takes a lot of understanding for car control. It needs work, but it is fun, only a few simple changes would transform this car.

  • Score : 10 / 22 / 14 / 6.5 = 52.5

2012 Colere Spirale V Rafale Touge Special @z2bbgr

Specs

  • Layout : FF
  • Horsepower : 268hp
  • Weight : 1,189kg
  • Tire F : 225/35R18
  • Tire R : 225/35R18
  • Tire Compound : Semi-slick

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:04.038
  • Run 2 : 2:03.915
  • Run 3 : 2:04.283

Impression

Start : Extremely responsive engine and gearbox combination, albeit not really that punchy. Gearing could be slightly longer because Electronic Differential isn’t that effective and thus it cannot really put the power down that well.

Stop : The brakes are extremely easy to modulate due to combination of oversize disc/caliper and ABS. Maybe the balance could go slightly more towards the rear to help with turn in.

Steer : The grippy tires are great for the weight. The problem is that front end really isn’t responsive for what the car is combining with and ineffective differential and stiff suspension makes the whole package feels too turgid. Although It’s very easy to drive as a result.

Smile : Extremely easy to drive but not at all easy to record good times. The handling simply is not responsive enough to either be fun or quick for what the car is. Still pretty decent though.

  • Score : 23.5 / 29 / 21 / 7.5 = 81

1996 Kiyume Fujin KSR @machalel

Specs

  • Layout : FR
  • Horsepower : 416hp
  • Weight : 1,337kg
  • Tire F : 245/45R17
  • Tire R : 265/45R17
  • Tire Compound : Semi-slick

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:04.416
  • Run 2 : 2:04.127
  • Run 3 : 2:04.315

Impression

Start : Powerful engine combined with great gear ratio. There’s always appropriate gearing for every corner and with ample torque makes it easy to control although not exactly responsive. Controllable wheelspin even with FR.

Stop : The brakes could be slightly more powerful. Although still extremely easy to control with decent balance and ABS. No fade experienced in the runs.

Steer : The tires are decent size for the weight which means it can corners with decent speed, however, the handling balance is toward oversteer which makes it harder to attack the corners.

Smile : A deceptively quick car. With the slight oversteer tone, even if it doesn’t feel that quick, it turns out to be pretty rapid because of the ability to turn in tight corners with great speed.

  • Score : 25.5 / 27 / 24 / 8 = 84.5

1995 TSC Thunderwolf V8 5.0 GTR @abg7

Specs

  • Layout : FR
  • Horsepower : 510hp
  • Weight : 1,425kg
  • Tire F : 245/40R18
  • Tire R : 285/35R18
  • Tire Compound : Sport

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:05.334
  • Run 2 : 2:04.731
  • Run 3 : 2:05.187

Impression

Start : A decent engine with good torque and power only let down by gear ratio that is too short in 1st and too long in 2nd in most corners. It sends power down to the road well enough though.

Stop : The brakes are great. Good sizing combined with ABS makes it easy to control. Balance is good enough with no quirks.

Steer : It practically begs for semi-slick tires. It doesn’t have enough turn in to be properly quick and not enough traction to get it out of the corners. Which is a shame because the balance is decent and body roll is perfect.

Smile : If only it was equipped with semi-slick and better gear ratio I reckon this would be superb. As it is, it’s fun to drift around but not fun at all to time attack. It lefts you wanting for a little bit more.

  • Score : 22 / 29 / 24 / 7 = 82

1994 Torrent Riptide Tsukuba @crwpitman1

Specs

  • Layout : FR
  • Horsepower : 348hp
  • Weight : 1,377kg
  • Tire F : 225/50R16
  • Tire R : 255/45R16
  • Tire Compound : Sport

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:08.598
  • Run 2 : 2:07.974
  • Run 3 : 2:08.126

Impression

Start : The engine has narrow powerband through excessive turbo size and also feels extremely sluggish despite having good power. The gear ratio is way too short in both 2nd and 3rd. At least the differential is effective.

Stop : The brakes are okay. Maybe slightly smaller than ideal. The balance is nothing to complaint about and there’s no fade. With ABS it is easy to control without much thoughts.

Steer : Another car that begs for Semi-Slick. The balance is pretty much as it should be and the suspension isn’t too stiff like some other cars. It just isn’t responsive due to lack of grip.

Smile : A good handling balance couldn’t compensate for poor calibration of engine, gearbox and lack of grip. It is at least competent and isn’t too bad to drive.

  • Score : 17 / 26 / 23 / 6 = 72

Leaderboard Time

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Leaderboard Subjective

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–Result : Part 2–

1982 Torrent Trickle Turbo Tsukuba @crwpitman1



Specs

  • Layout : F4
  • Horsepower : 273hp
  • Weight : 1,048kg
  • Tire F : 180/50R14
  • Tire R : 205/45R14
  • Tire Compound : Sport

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:11.068
  • Run 2 : 2:10.886
  • Run 3 : 2:10.693

Impression

Start : This car suffered from an excessively large turbocharger. It actually bogs on launch despite clutch dumping at full RPM. The gear ratio is okay though and AWD makes it very easy to gain traction.

Stop : The brakes feel small-ish. With ABS there’s a lot of time it feels like the car wouldn’t stop in time and modulation isn’t really possible. Pluses are the balance is great for turning in and there’s no fade.

Steer : Oh so much understeer combining with lift-off oversteer. I suspect because the balance itself is poor and sports tire isn’t enough for most application. Which is a shame because this actually has decent level of stiffness and not excessively so like so many entries.

Smile : I really wanted to like this car. It is the first car in this challenge to crack the small turbocharged AWD code which is the surefire way to make a really quick entry for this course. Problem is the execution is poor and the time reflects that despite having great power/weight ratio.

  • Score : 20 / 26 / 17 / 5 = 68

1998 Matsuma Alfino GTi @mart1n2005



Specs

  • Layout : FF
  • Horsepower : 225hp
  • Weight : 1,081kg
  • Tire F : 225/45R16
  • Tire R : 225/45R16
  • Tire Compound : Semi-Slick

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:04.686
  • Run 2 : 2:04.563
  • Run 3 : 2:04.543

Impression

Start : The revvy engine is more tractable than expected. With the gear ratio that is quite long, if the engine is too peaky it’d bog but it’s not the case here. You can almost do the entire run in 2nd gear. Great traction as well.

Stop : The brake is pretty much perfect. No complaints at all. Balance is great for both trailbraking and left foot braking. No fade could be experience and it’s extremely easy to modulate. Only thing I wish for is for it to not have ABS that it doesn’t need so I can control it even better.

Steer : This is an extremely well tuned chassis. Decent grip. Balance is pretty much as neutral as it can be and the suspension isn’t too stiff. Only wish is that it has stiffer rear anti roll bar for better turn in in some corners.

Smile : This is the surprising bit. This car might be one of the best objectively but to drive it’s not actually that fun. Compared to the Valiant Ventis that car is more immediate and twitchy, a trait that’s benefitting FF. Despite this it is still a great car that allows for extremely consistent timing.

  • Score : 27.5 / 29.5 / 27 / 8 = 92

1992 Aero Keai Penultimate Edition (Aero ERT Testing) @Edsel



Specs

  • Layout : FR
  • Horsepower : 64hp
  • Weight : 833kg
  • Tire F : 165/65R14
  • Tire R : 165/65R14
  • Tire Compound : Sport

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:24.204
  • Run 2 : 2:24.444
  • Run 3 : 2:22.590

Impression

Start : This engine might only have 64hp and being N/A quite peaky. However, with short gear ratio every gear is usable and there’s no moment that it doesn’t accelerate. It also has geared differential, which despite common misconception, is actually essential for any performance machine no matter the power level.

Stop : Do we really need to talk about brakes? This car doesn’t feel like it needs one. But since we’re here I can report that they’re more than adequate with perfect balance, great for modulation and absolutely no fade.

Steer : Finally, a car made with understanding that with sub-par grip you need body roll to help with turning. This car has the best balance for any FR I’ve tested so far. The maker said they’ve tested this for a long time and it shows.

Smile : This car is exactly the reason why I’ve decided to include subjective leaderboard. Timing doesn’t matter one bit with this buzzy bundle of joy. It is the perfect car to teach you car control. And if you’re already a decent driver, managing to get the perfect run with this is uncomparable feeling.

  • Score : 26 / 30 / 29 / 10 = 95

1983 Unnamed Custom Tuned Hatchback @Edsel



Specs

  • Layout : FF
  • Horsepower : 301hp
  • Weight : 972kg
  • Tire F : 245/40R16
  • Tire R : 245/40R16
  • Tire Compound : Semi-slick

Time

  • Run 1 : 1:59.916
  • Run 2 : 1:58.725
  • Run 3 : 1:58.617

Impression

Start : This engine has a bundle of torque and no revs at all (5,000-ish redline!). But it has the gear ratio to support that which makes acceleration effective. It has extremely good amount of traction as well for FF.

Stop : The brakes also feels kind of odd. It felt like it wouldn’t stop for a lot of time which I suspect is because of old ABS. It probably would’ve been better without one. With weight distribution and the way it set up it almost pop a stoppie which is actually beneficial to the handling. No fade.

Steer : The handling felt odd as well. It has grips for days due to low weight and ultra wide tires. When braking it almost pop a stoppie due to weight distrubition and relatively soft suspension, but this actually makes it turn in nicer due to ability to weight transfer.

Smile : An extremely odd car to drive and very difficult to post good times due to it’s quirks. But even with poor driving (in first tries) it would decimates all competition so far. A good kind of weird.

  • Score : 26.5 / 25 / 27 / 8.5 = 87

2018 Kiyume click RCS tuned @machalel



Specs

  • Layout : F4
  • Horsepower : 346hp
  • Weight : 1,100kg
  • Tire F : 225/50R17
  • Tire R : 225/50R17
  • Tire Compound : Semi-slick

Time

  • Run 1 : 1:59.695
  • Run 2 : 2:00.073
  • Run 3 : 1:59.228

Impression

Start : The engine is plenty powerful with good usable rev range. The gearbox is way too short which means most corners both 2nd and 3rd are not ideal. At least it puts down the power well with AWD.

Stop : The brakes are good. Big enough for the ABS to be effective and balance is decent. The fade is nonexistent.

Steer : This car handling is enigmatic. It both exhibits excess understeer and lift-off oversteer. This makes it extremely unpredictable although the grip level is good and body roll is okay.

Smile : It’s an extremely frustrating car to drive as every corner the car could either understeer or oversteer with nothing in between. It’s fast for sure because it is the first to crack lightweight AWD code but its unpredictability is annoying.

  • Score : 22 / 28 / 20 / 7 = 77

2008 ZRD 350z GT @Riley



Specs

  • Layout : FR
  • Horsepower : 595hp
  • Weight : 1,509kg
  • Tire F : 225/40R18
  • Tire R : 265/35R19
  • Tire Compound : Semi-slick

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:05.591
  • Run 2 : 2:06.033
  • Run 3 : 2:06.002

Impression

Start : Bags of torque and horsepower. Although with gearing to accommodates for it and 1.5ton of mass, even with nearly 600hp can be put down on the road very well.

Stop : Good brakes that can control the weight. There’s nothing much to say other than it’s perfectly fine.

Steer : This is where this car falters. I’m afraid off-throttle understeer won’t cure your on-throttle oversteer. Which is irrelevant anyway because this car puts the power down so well with plenty of grip. I wish it was more responsive to steering input.

Smile : This car understeer is its achilles’ heel. It would’ve been so much better if the front end was sharper. As it is, it’s a gentle giant that rewards hamfisted driving and probably more suited to drag racing.

  • Score : 26.5 / 28 / 22.5 / 7 = 84

1999 LVC LS20 GTS TTTT @abg7



Specs

  • Layout : MR
  • Horsepower : 225hp
  • Weight : 875kg
  • Tire F : 205/50R16
  • Tire R : 245/40R16
  • Tire Compound : Sport

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:03.734
  • Run 2 : 2:02.687
  • Run 3 : 2:02.052

Impression

Start : Revvy engine paired with good gearing which means the entire run can pretty much be done in 2nd and only few 3rd gear moment. It puts power down extremely well due to weight distribution.

Stop : This is an extremely well judged brakes. Easy pressure modulation due to correct sizing which means it can stops better than ABS equipped vehicle.

Steer : A very well balanced machine that’s maybe slightly understeer. This probably could be completely cured with Semi-Slick tires but truthfully? It’s one of the only few cars that doesn’t need it. Suspension stiffness is not too much and is ideal for it.

Smile : At this point I can let you into a little secret. Lightweight AWD might be fast, but in testing, Lightweight MR is even faster on this track. If this car has Semi-slicks and a more powerful, turbocharged engine it might be topping the timing sheet right now. Excellent car.

  • Score : 28 / 30 / 27 / 9 = 94

Leaderboard Time

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Leaderboard Subjective

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–Result : Part 3–

2020 Zephorus GO RS @Riley



Specs

  • Layout : F4
  • Horsepower : 382hp
  • Weight : 1,160kg
  • Tire F : 225/35R18
  • Tire R : 225/35R18
  • Tire Compound : Sport

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:02.357
  • Run 2 : 2:02.633
  • Run 3 : 2:02.460

Impression

Start : It felt like the engine rev limit seems a bit low or gearing too short, until I realized that putting it in Sports Automatic is way better than trying to control the gear myself. It also puts down the power very well.

Stop : The brakes are more than adequate, I’d say they’re great. Good balance along with great modulation.

Steer : This car, like so many other before, begs for semi-slick to be perfect. The balance is perfect for AWD machine and is great fun to throw around. The suspension also allows a bit of lean which helps a lot when there’s not ideal grip.

Smile : This car is a hoot to drive overall. Throw it around like a rally car and have lots of fun. The timing might be a bit disappointing but that’s what you get with sports tire. Still, it doesn’t matter one bit if it doesn’t top the chart.

  • Score : 27 / 29 / 27.5 / 9.5 = 93

1999 Neko KRX-3 Kei WATune @Mikonp7



Specs

  • Layout : FR
  • Horsepower : 123hp
  • Weight : 877kg
  • Tire F : 190/45R15
  • Tire R : 225/40R15
  • Tire Compound : Semi-Slick

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:13.077
  • Run 2 : 2:12.953
  • Run 3 : 2:12.064

Impression

Start : For some reason the engine doesn’t feel responsive, but it is. The gearing is pretty good with no issue on any corners. Weirdly it likes to lift the rear wheel a bit so it wheelspin too much on corner exit.

Stop : The brake doesn’t feel like it needs ABS to be honest. They’re good size so easy to control and there’s no fade to speak of. The balance is pretty much spot on as well.

Steer : It drives very weird, this car. It understeer a lot right until the moment the back steps out. Like I said before the rear inner wheel wants to lift for some reason, I guess the quirks of the body choice as I’ve experienced it with the bean before.

Smile : I feel extremely mixed about this car. It’s satisfying to drive well but there’s weird quirks all over the place. I think it’s the body itself that resulted in the behavior more than tuning.

  • Score : 23.5 / 28.5 / 24 / 7 = 83

2018 Mara Paragon 2.3 SE42 by N7 @AndiD



Specs

  • Layout : FR
  • Horsepower : 230hp
  • Weight : 926kg
  • Tire F : 225/40R19
  • Tire R : 225/40R19
  • Tire Compound : Semi-slick

Time

  • Run 1 : 1:59.865
  • Run 2 : 1:58.973
  • Run 3 : 1:58.856

Impression

Start : The engine is responsive and revvy. The gear ratio is also well judged with usable gear in 1st 2nd and 3rd. It also sends the power down in pleasing way with not too much wheelspin.

Stop : There’s nothing to complain about the brakes at all. No fade, no imbalance, no nothing. The ABS even works well.

Steer : This car is like a surgical knife. It demands respect but with careful turning it gives sharp response and no nasty surprises unless you’re stupid with it. Plenty of grip from oversize tires and not overly stiff suspension.

Smile : Fast and fun is how I’d describe it. It’s the classic style FR coupe that rewards good, precise driving. It’s twitchy in a predictable way which means it also can set the timed leaderboard on fire despite not being powerful.

  • Score : 28 / 30 / 29 / 10 = 97

1975 Mayster Triumf 2.0 TTTT @AndiD



Specs

  • Layout : FF
  • Horsepower : 144hp
  • Weight : 761kg
  • Tire F : 235/40R15
  • Tire R : 235/40R15
  • Tire Compound : Semi-slick

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:02.252
  • Run 2 : 2:02.386
  • Run 3 : 2:01.765

Impression

Start : 144hp cannot do too much even if you’re carrying 761kg. It’s not that responsive but with usable rev range with good long gear ratio to control wheelspin from ineffective old differential.

Stop : The brakes do feel a bit like on-off switch at times, but it’s effective at stopping the car. It also doesn’t fade and with decent balance overall.

Steer : A classic race car feeling. Slight oversteer tone actually helps with turn in, although in some corner you wish to be able to send power down more effectively. The suspension is quite stiff but with much oversized tires the car still feels good to drive.

Smile : Another very fun car which also proves that you can make a classic car competitive in the timing sheet. Only thing I’d ask for is more effective differential which wasn’t available with the year. Solid car.

  • Score : 25.5 / 27 / 25 / 9 = 86.5

2020 Pocono CS2300 - Trackmeister @z2bbgr



Specs

  • Layout : FR
  • Horsepower : 256hp
  • Weight : 1,175kg
  • Tire F : 215/35R17
  • Tire R : 215/35R17
  • Tire Compound : Semi-slick

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:07.003
  • Run 2 : 2:06.634
  • Run 3 : 2:07.217

Impression

Start : A decent engine matched to poor DCT gearbox. Too short for use in Manual mode and even in Sports Auto it hunts gears in different corners. Made worse by ineffective E-Diff which is indecisive a lot of times. Either it’s might as well be open diff or suddenly locking shooting the rear end out when upshifting.

Stop : The brakes are perfectly okay. Balance is alright and there’s no fade. ABS is also effective.

Steer : This car feels like it has cut spring. The dampers aren’t effective at controlling the spring and so it feels very jelly like. The balance is also towards oversteer which is controllable if not for the ineffective differential. At least the grip isn’t too bad.

Smile : This car needs a bit of work. Few parts could be change and it would be so much better. As it is it’s a bit of a frustrating car to drive.

  • Score : 18 / 27 / 17.5 / 5 = 67.5

1990 Renwoo Merci OpenTop WATune @Mikonp7



Specs

  • Layout : FF
  • Horsepower : 109hp
  • Weight : 756kg
  • Tire F : 205/50R16
  • Tire R : 205/50R16
  • Tire Compound : Semi-slick

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:08.928
  • Run 2 : 2:08.652
  • Run 3 : 2:08.393

Impression

Start : The engine actually has decent power and usable torque but throttle response is not great. The gear ratio does help quite a lot although gear change is slow for some reason. The differential is also good at sending the power down despite one big problem we’ll get into later.

Stop : The brakes are okay. Nothing bad to say about it with balance or fade. As it is a light car it’s not difficult to stop.

Steer : This is the car that came closest to DQ by grip rolling, luckily it’s still at managable level. Otherwise it’s a decent FF car with good turn in, great grip, and not too stiff a suspension.

Smile : The only gripe I have with it indeed is grip rolling. As have been alluded a lot, low weight, tall body with wide tires tends to do that. It also doesn’t feel that responsive or quick, but it is quirky.

  • Score : 26 / 27 / 22 / 6.5 = 81.5

2018 Fischer Hark PE @azkaalfafa



Specs

  • Layout : F4
  • Horsepower : 420hp
  • Weight : 1,528kg
  • Tire F : 265/45R18
  • Tire R : 275/40R18
  • Tire Compound : Sport

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:06.577
  • Run 2 : 2:06.212
  • Run 3 : 2:04.773

Impression

Start : The engine has plenty of pulling power with decent gear ratio to make use of it. AWD system also makes it very predictable and easy to control. I also appreciate the extra RPMs which actually helps with the longest straight.

Stop : I was extremely surprise when braking for the first time because it almost feel like it didn’t have any. The ABS doesn’t respond very well for some reason which takes getting used to. The balance is safe and it’s good enough not to smoke on downhill.

Steer : It’s balance is safe and secure setting with one weird quirk being tendency to lift the front wheels in cornering. Maybe the rear end is slightly too soft or the front is too firm. I wish it didn’t have sport tires because it’d be better with more grip but maybe it would grip roll with height?

Smile : I attacked the course a lot in this car with time consistently in 2:06. Went to have a bit of rest, came back, and immediately set the time which I knew I could not do again unless I retry tens of times. It drives as you’d expect a powerful crossover would drive with few surprising quirks. The time itself is a (good) surprise as well considering the weight and tires.

  • Score : 27 / 22 / 23 / 8 = 80

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oh it does, like you wouldn’t believe

–Result : Part 4–

2020 Corsche 211 @Pasta_al_tonno



Specs

  • Layout : RR
  • Horsepower : 357hp
  • Weight : 1,097kg
  • Tire F : 170/65R15
  • Tire R : 235/50R15
  • Tire Compound : Sport

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:10.215
  • Run 2 : 2:09.837
  • Run 3 : 2:08.358

Impression

Start : The engine has plenty of torque and usable power. The gearbox isn’t half bad but a bit unneccesary short considering the engine. The biggest issue is the e-diff, which is as unpredictable as it has ever been.

Stop : The brakes are okay. Stops well with surprising amount or rear bias for helping with turn in, which this car doesn’t need at all because of the reason I’ll get into next.

Steer : This car is the reason why I said you don’t intentionally set the car up to oversteer. Combining with low grip from narrow sport tires and poor differential this car will do anything but what you told it to do.

Smile : First RR is a disappointment, considering in testing they can be extremely fast like MR. With the ability to gain traction on corner exit, which this car doesn’t do due to handling balance. An oversteer car could work if the grip level is high enough and it has predictable power delivery, both of which this car doesn’t have either.

  • Score : 16 / 24 / 10 / 3 = 53

2015 GurnardGTR-MK2.5 @Support_Sergal



Specs

  • Layout : F4
  • Horsepower : 702hp
  • Weight : 1,548kg
  • Tire F : 245/40R22
  • Tire R : 255/40R22
  • Tire Compound : Sport

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:04.299
  • Run 2 : 2:04.219
  • Run 3 : 2:03.890

Impression

Start : The engine has so poor turbo tuning that it bogs down on launch. Having only about 2,500rpm of actual usable powerband can work if gear ratio is suitable for it, which this car doesn’t have either. Also, viscous differential might not be the worst option but it is up there with how poor it is for on acceleration traction.

Stop : The brakes are awful. The stopping power itself isn’t bad but with poor ABS response it feels like it wouldn’t stop a lot of time. Also, this is one of the rare car that is affected by brake fade if only a little bit.

Steer : The main issue with this car is the lack of grip. Way too little tires for the weight means it doesn’t respond very well to steering input. The balance itself tends toward understeer which is at least easy to manage.

Smile : This car shows how OP the powerful AWD actually is. Considering how terrible it is to drive, the time itself is pretty quick. But it still isn’t a car I would drive again.

  • Score : 10 / 20 / 16 / 4 = 50

2018 Summit Acrobat @Sandstorm



Specs

  • Layout : FR
  • Horsepower : 408hp
  • Weight : 1,816kg
  • Tire F : 235/50R18
  • Tire R : 245/45R18
  • Tire Compound : Sport

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:14.474
  • Run 2 : 2:14.755
  • Run 3 : 2:14.177

Impression

Start : The V8 engine has plenty of tractability. The gearbox might seem a bit long but it is perfect for it with both 1st 2nd and 3rd being usable. It also puts down the power pretty well for how small the tires are.

Stop : The brakes are also plenty controllable with good sizing and ABS that’s effective. The balance is also decent for FR without any quirks and there’s no fade.

Steer : With the tire size being extremely small for the weight and compound being sub-par, it’s no surprise that the car couldn’t carry enough speed into the corners. What’s surprising is that the car responds very well to input despite that with great balance and the stiffness is well judged.

Smile : I could not call this car fun. It’s simply too heavy and the tires too poor to carry enough speed, this also resulted in the car being slower than cars with a lot more issues. Still it’s a good bit of surprise with how nice it actually drives.

  • Score : 24 / 27 / 22.5 / 7 = 80.5

1999 Swanson 220 SF SporkSports AT3 @Ludvig



Specs

  • Layout : FF
  • Horsepower : 241hp
  • Weight : 1,178kg
  • Tire F : 235/40R17
  • Tire R : 235/40R17
  • Tire Compound : Sport

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:07.073
  • Run 2 : 2:06.518
  • Run 3 : 2:07.180

Impression

Start : This engine has bags of torque and good top end power. Paired with suitable gear ratio there’s very little to ask more from it. The differential is also pretty effective at sending the power down.

Stop : The brakes could be slightly more powerful, or maybe removing the unnecessary ABS to make controlling easier. The balance is alright and there’s no fade to speak of.

Steer : The handling balance is superb, with slight tone of oversteer to help with cornering. The issue is the overall lack of grip form sport tires which is inadequate. The stiffness is also spot on. I just wish it has semi-slick.

Smile : It’s like a broken record at this point but with this challenge if you want to go really fast you need mechanical grip, which is achievable with good suspension tuning and semi-slick. This car has one of the two, which makes it only half good. But it’s still an enjoyable car to drive despite that.

  • Score : 27 / 26 / 27 / 8.5 = 88.5

2008 Swanson 225 TITTITT Garage Jazz.25 @Ludvig



Specs

  • Layout : FR
  • Horsepower : 311hp
  • Weight : 1,374kg
  • Tire F : 255/40R17
  • Tire R : 255/40R17
  • Tire Compound : Sport

Time

  • Run 1 : 2:06.238
  • Run 2 : *2:06.271
  • Run 3 : 2:06.249

Impression

Start : The engine is like a big lazy bear. Plenty of pulling power and extremely forgiving. The gearbox paired with it perfectly with usable 2nd and 3rd. The differential is also pretty great for sending the power down.

Stop : The brakes is also pretty great, easy to modulate and great balance to help with turning in.

Steer : If we’re ignoring the simple sub-par grip from sport tires this car has pretty much the perfect FR handling. The front end especially is responsive despite the lack of grip. The perfectly judged suspension stiffness goes a long way in helping that.

Smile : I totally did not expect this car to be this satisfying to drive, but it is. It might not be the fastest but I keep wanting to have another go.

  • Score : 27 / 29.5 / 27.5 / 9.5 = 93.5

2020 Modessi Ventura TSD @silence



Specs

  • Layout : FR
  • Horsepower : 310hp
  • Weight : 1,022kg
  • Tire F : 205/50R16
  • Tire R : 205/50R16
  • Tire Compound : Semi-slick

Time

  • Run 1 : 1:55.626
  • Run 2 : 1:56.565
  • Run 3 : 1:54.661

Impression

Start : This engine is an absolute gem, responsive and high revving. Paired with good DCT that’s maybe a bit too short but can be driven on Automatic gives it good acceleration. One problem is the electronic differential which is indecisive as ever.

Stop : The brake is superb. Oversized both front and rear which means it’s easy to control. The rear maybe a bit too large so in panic stop the tail would step out, but this actually can be use in some corners.

Steer : The handling balance is also pretty spot on, neutral balance. The stiffness is perfectly judged and there is ample grip. Might be the grippiest car in this challenge overall.

Smile : Ending with a bang. This car has only one issue (albeit pretty big issue) which is the differential that makes the car unpredictable. Other than that it is a joy to attack the course with and the time decimates all at the end.

  • Score : 26.5 / 28 / 30 / 8 = 92.5

Leaderboard Time

Leaderboard Subjective


–Final Thoughts–

  • The result, as in testing, shown that the fastest machines were lightweight, powerful and grippy. OBVIOUSLY. What may not be so obvious is the inability of AWD to dominate. Although they may be the easiest way to make extremely quick entry, they are not foolproof.
  • Only one representative each of MR and RR is kind of a disappointment, because as I’ve said, they are extremely fast when tuned right. And there’s no R4 or M4 either. I could only wonder how well they can do here.
  • There are 13 sport tires entries, 13 semi-slick tires entries, and 1 medium tires entry. If it’s not already obvious at this point, top 5 are all semi-slick equipped and none of the sport tires entries came even close to dominating the time sheet. It is anything but optimal choice. That being said, the subjective leaderboard does allow sport tires to be highly competitive there. I’m not even going to say anything about medium tires other than they’re shit.
  • The sport tires indeed can be a valid choice. Electronic differential is not a valid choice. They are okay in AWD application, annoying in FWD application, and can ruin the whole car in RWD application. Torque vectoring does not export well at all, especially with RWD.
  • Only one car nearly grip rolling. I will consider that a success.
  • Any cars that scored above 90 is GOAT. I did not expect 7 cars to be in this category at all. Those in the 80 are great as well. Those that didn’t quite reach those numbers need some work but not too much. Don’t forget that nothing is completely undrivable which is amazing.

And with that, it’s time to conclude. This challenge was fun to run, I hope it is also fun for you as well! Thank you all for participating. See you again next time.

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That’s what happens when you stick a 500-bhp V8 into a short-wheelbase FR coupe running on regular sports tires - but there was no room left in the budget for semi-slicks. Then again, I’m surprised it performed as well as it did, with the exception of those traction issues.

That’s exactly what I expected from my Exige replica. In fact, it was the fastest car on sports tires. I could have shifted the weight slider all the way to the minimum and/or fitted semi-slicks to make it even faster, but both of those would have made it overpriced for this challenge. Even so, it’s a real giant-killer - and one that proved that a light MR build can hold its own against heavier opposition.

Anyway, congratulations to the class winners, and many thanks to everyone involved!

Thank you very much for hosting! I think we all appreciate the time it would have taken you to drive all these and give such great feedback.

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I’ve actually been testing modifying some entries in the way I suggested. I feel like any comments would be more valid if it’s tested for real. The LCV LS20 with a turbo and semi-slick and adjustments to suit would do easy mid-1:56 without fine tuning. Yes, it is legal and in budget with few subtle tweaks.

I would like to report these findings, but it would take more effort which I’m not prepared to spend. Also I’m concerned about some might find it disrespecting if I don’t ask for permission, after all, the entries are like people’s babies and my vision may not match the original creator.

I’m curious about this so I went and tested it. I can’t actually get it to grip roll, although it’s not actually that much faster with semi-slick either. Maybe just a second or so.

The Fischer Hark is the only car I feel the score doesn’t represent how much I actually like it. It’s a car I keep coming back to drive with just how unique it drives and how well made it is. Despite some weird engineering choices like solid disc front and vented disc rear.

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Much like ABG has said, I ran out of room for semislicks, and considering I didn’t tune for beam that much overall I’d say it was a success. A well hosted competition.

Just to avoid things next time, looks like you’re missing textures from this mod:

The first and third bits I expected; the second and fourth ones I didn’t. However, if future Beam updates make electronic LSDs less awkward to use there, I could see more and more users fitting them to cars intended for Beam testing, budget permitting.

HOLY COW

I had absolutely no expectations for the factory kei car, I just submitted it for feedback on how it drove. And I guess I that’s what I got, wow; maybe I don’t want to completely rebuild it, after all…

And for the other hatchback, given that I designed it kinda quickly for LS_Swapped’s challenge and just minimally adapted it to here, somehow getting 2nd place in time is just insane to me. This one I did know was gonna do well, being a lightweight grip build, but second? One of only four to break 2 min!?

My cars aside, these were some great (and informative) reviews to read. Thanks so much for this challenge!

Well done challenge.
I don’t really know to tune for Beam, just picked two “tuner vibe” cars that handled reasonably well. Semi slicks make a larger impact than I realized, shaving off 5-8 seconds in my testing (“make it through without crashing”). Some of those are probably from being more familiar with the track, but sub 2 minute times should be possible.

Very well correct observation. The 225 on semi-slick with multiple tweaks is capable of pretty amazing stuff (sub-2 is very much possible, it’s the question of how deep into sub-2).

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I don’t have words to describe this…

No expectations and no idea how it would handle, just using my keyboard on BeamNG to drive the thing. I knew it had a lot of grip, but most of the time it was just putting too much power down and I would oversteer into a wall :rofl: I really enjoyed this challenge, looking forward to the next one!

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The more I think about it, the more the LS20 reminds me of a slightly larger and heavier, but more powerful, first- or second-generation (normally-aspirated) Lotus Exige:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a13942731/a-lotus-exige-is-the-antidote-to-distracted-driving/

It’s not of much use for the daily grind, but comes alive on a twisting B-road or a technically demanding road course.

Well, it was fun to still compete anyway. This was a lot of firsts for me. This is the first time I have submitted my car to a challenge. first time trying out a turbo to make more power, and my first time making a track car. it did disappoint me that the review of the car was disappointing. But this does show that all-wheel-drive cars can be very easy to make track-ready.

Anyways. I would say the main reason why I failed to make a good car is first, the price. My first submission was rejected because the price of the car was 43k (this was my first time, so I did not know of the detailed stats page in the test menu). This made me do a lot, and I mean a lot of quality cuts; almost all stages of the car had -2 quality marked on them, and stuff like tire size and transmission top speed was cut to save costs. I capped the speed at 200mph because if I had gone any higher, it would have gone out of budget. it was a constant fight to get into the green. in the future, I will plan to make a car that is below the budget goal in the prototype phase.
The second problem is my Turbo. since my knowledge of turbocharger engineering was lacking. I made a lackluster turbo in response.
The final thing I missed were the tires. i… I don’t know what is best for tires, but I know that if I add more rear grip. lower oversteer, but, I have no know-how on how to make a great tire combination…

Any way to end this.
I’m glad I participated in the challenge it made me try my best to make a great car. Sadly, it looks like the challenge was a failure. I am glad to see that I made it to 9th place on the time board, but at the cost of making a car that cannot be a smiles-per-mile machine. still a great demonstration of how AWD can dominate even with it being unable to drive for fun…

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