What If? - A Community Thread

So…it’s a Lotus Elan?

Wow, this is really well thought out and I love how you took the effort to ensure the Miata fitted correctly within the existing Mazda line-up. I suspect your performance issues arose from the body you chose and sticking strictly to the what if? scenario. If the car’d been made to take on British rivals of the day I’d suspect they’d have used a 1.8 or 2.0L four instead of the 1.5L you used, hahaha!

Nope. The Lotus Elan was the inspiration for the RL Miata, this car would have had to fight Triumph’s, MG’s and Austin Healey’s; the Elan would have been in a totally different price bracket to an old school Miata…

Excellent answer to a seldom-asked question - and a stunner from every angle as always! Even the fact that its high drag coefficient holds it back stats-wise can’t stop me from admiring it for hours on end.

That would have given it more power, but also more weight, which compromises dynamics. Even so, despite only having 75 horsepower, it would still have made its mark on the entry-level sports car scene of the Sixties.

WHAT IF...
FCA DECIDED TO BRING US BACK THE DELTA INTEGRALE ?
Yes, I know, I know, today's market is full of hot hatches, but that's a type of car which we'll never get tired of, especially when under the hood there's a 300+ horsepower inline 4. So, let's say that FCA decided to bring back Lancia to it's good old days, beginning with getting rid of the Ypsilon and presenting the new 2021 Delta HF EVO IV.

The reference to the first '90s is strong, but that's not a modern replica. Nothing that special in design terms, because it's still a quite compact car with 4.1 meters of length, 5 seats, navigation system, touch screen and all you need in an everyday-car. The engine is the famous 2.0 GME engine by FCA, used by lots of models, Giulia Veloce included, which delivers 280 hp (206 KW), but Abarth brought it up to 305 (224 KW).

The car weights 1471 kg, but for being AWD and considering the average weight of cars such as the Golf R, it’s pretty ok. Performance-wise, the EVO IV boasts a 5.1s in the 0-100 km/h with the standard 6 speed manual gearbox, which become 4.7 with an all new 7 speed dual-clutch, developed specially for the high-end models of the new generation of Lancia. 262 km/h (163 mph) is the top speed.

During a secret test ( now not anymore) at the Top Gear Test Tra…ehm… sorry… Airfield Test Track, the Lancia did a 1.24.12, which is, to giving you a benchmark, 1.5s less than then a Civic Type R FK8 and only a second slower than the Supra MkV.

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As a direct result of the body’s size and weight, technically no - that being said, if there was something a bit closer to the Elan in Automation I would’ve definitely opted to use that.

I based my engine specs off of the Japan-market Mazda Luce, which was released in 1966 - that being said, I should’ve done a little more research because I didn’t know there was a version of the engine with twin carbs which was released in 1967. That probably would’ve made it a bit more competitive power-wise in the grand scheme of things and I might still throw that version in for shits + giggles.

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What If...

Audi made Audi R8 in the late 80's / early 90's?

It’s the people’s favourite(?) Audi that is popularly known as it has the same engine as Lamborghini Gallardo in the 2000’s but what if Audi made Audi R8 back in 1989? Here is the result.

Powered by 4.2 V8 ABH V8 that was previously in Audi V8, Audi decided to give it some upgrade up to 296hp, 410nm of torque, mid-transversely mounted in the car this body doesn’t like mid longitudional V8, had to resort to tranverse powering the rear wheel only.


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Damn.

It’s one of the best designs I’ve seen around, super creative.

It’s a shame that the side intake fixture is a bit bugged out with the lighting, but otherwise stunning car.

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What if...

Top secret made another V12 Supra today?

Who is Top Secret, and why did they shove a V12 into a Supra?

Top Secret Co., Ltd. is a Japanese automobile tuner and parts manufacturer. The company was founded by Japanese automotive engineer and driver, Kazuhiko “Smokey” Nagata.


Smokey used to work in Trust, another well-known tuner. Eventually he left the company to create his own tuning shop: Top Secret



On one hand, Top Secret participates in motorsports such as D1GP drift championship, time attack and many others, but what they are most known for, are top speed runs.

Smokey himself participates in illegal public road high speed runs, Overseas, he infamously reached 317 km/h on British public roads, before being arrested and jailed for the night.




In 2007, he built the TS8012V Supra. The goal of the build is to go to the Nardo Test Track and break 400km/h. Top Secret being Top Secret, instead of keeping the 2JZ engine, they sourced a 1GZ-FE V12 5.0 engine from a Toyota Century. Fitted with many custom one-off parts and a pair of turbos, it now makes about 950 horsepower


The engine fills up the original engine bay completely, they have to reposition the radiators to the back of the car, similar to many drift cars today.

During the speed run at Nardo, due to overheating issues, the car “only” managed 358 km/h


Thoughts behind this build
This imaginary 2020 remake of this car is obviously, based on the new A90 supra



Because of the much smaller chassis compared to the A80 Supra, they have to manufacture a custom front subframe and custom bodywork in order to accommodate the massive V12 engine at least that’s my excuse of using the FT1 body

Since the new Toyota Century switches to a V8 Hybrid powertrain, the new engine is still 1GZ-FE based





Like the original V12 Supra, the radiator has to be repositioned to the rear. An intake duct is used to draw air from above the roof into the trunk-mounted rad.

The design uses custom headlights that differs from the base car, similar to the original “Final Evolution” A80 body kit with its vertical shaped projectors

I tried.


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Aww he brought his friend with him!

Both cars by yours truly, the local Supra simper

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What if
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GT-R shoting br ak


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What if…

The Saturn Sky was a 90s sports convertible?

Although Saturn faced imminent demise in the recession of the late 2000s, they still found themselves a decent amount of success in the 90s. This (doesn’t really, but I think it) begs the question: what if the Sky was produced in the 90s to compete against the Miata and 240SX?

Welcome to the 1995 Saturn SKR. Conceived using a new longitudinal space frame platform derived from the S-Series and L-Series Saturns, the new front-engine, rear-wheel drive layout gives it a more traditional sportscar driving style. Propelling the car forward was GM’s 2.3 Liter “Quad 4” DOHC I4, with 180 horsepower being sent through a 5-speed manual and a viscous LSD. The “polymer” panels (fiberglass - who remembers when polymer was actually an option?) keeps weight low, and 0-60 could be done in under 8 seconds with an aggressive launch on the right surface. It’s probably okay to drive, although I didn’t really tune it that much. A long wheelbase and stubby proportions aren’t quite as sporty as the contemporary Sky and allows for a +2 rear seat arrangement.


Upon Closer Inspection



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Interesting idea, but in all likelihood it would have used Saturn’s own DOHC 1.9L. GM had a really different outlook for the Saturn brand during the 90’s and insisted that it didn’t share any of the mechanicals with the rest of GM’s lineup.

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What if…

The Polestar 1 was conceived as a Y2K sports GT?

Volvo’s current racing division, Cyan Racing, traces its roots back to Polestar and Flash Racing, which began in 1996. Although Polestar Performance was spun off into its own electric-performance brand and Cyan Racing became the racing handle of Volvo and Lynk & Co, I envisioned what the Polestar 1 could have been, given that it was a fully-fledged Volvo product.

The rebrand would be the first thing to attack - introducing the 1998 Volvo R90. The design is heavily influenced by the 2001 S60 and 1996 C70, acting as a bridge between the two cars whilst also exaggerating the major design features that both cars exhibit. A slim front end and boxy proportions give the R90 a distinctly Swedish flair. Wide rear haunches provide an ideal base for the now-iconic 2000s Volvo taillight design. Under the revolutionary partial-carbon body is the Volvo P2 platform, debuting alongside the S80 sedan to show off the adaptability of the chassis. Powering this nearly 1500-kg piece of machinery is a 3.0 liter turbocharged inline-6 engine, boosted to produce over 400 horsepower and allowing for a 0-62 time of just over 4 seconds with a 6 speed manual transmission. The long wheelbase and slightly rear-biased AWD system gives the R90 an athletic grand touring driving experience, with stability at all speeds.



Upon Closer Inspection



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sorry

Hi bud, I’m glad you’re enjoying the thread! It’s true that the theme of this is “What If,” but there’s a catch; the hypothetical car in question should be a product of an IRL company. The original post mentions Apple, Lancia, and Ford as potential companies, and if you look through this thread, these vehicles are all from IRL car companies or literally based off existing car models; for example, a 90s Polestar, a sedan NSX, or a modern V12 Top Secret Supra. That’s the expectation for this forum, pal.

Your vehicle, on the other hand, looks like it’s entirely a product of your imagination and not based off any currently existing car or company. Thus, it’s better suited for a different thread; maybe you can make your own under “Sharing” and post it there? Thank you, partner!

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hey it’s all good we all make mistakes, we’re all human

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What if, Bugatti EB110 GT/SS But 1960s?

Presenting the not good 1961 Bugatti EB110 ST

I tried :slight_smile:

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What if...

The Soviets made a muscle car?...


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The ZAvZ 3155 “Clara” is a sports car manufactured by the Zlatoustovsky Avtomobilny Zavod starting in 1968.

The car was developed alongside the GAZ-24, with slight differences in chassis and suspension design to account for sportier driving.

Powered by the same 5.5-litre OHV V8 in the GAZ-13 Chaika, it produced a blistering 220 gross horsepower (195 net), and could hit 100kph in under 10 seconds.

Staying true to the “muscle car philosophy”, not much is made for its handling ability, it was simply made to excel in one thing; go fast in a straight line.

The car’s styling was inspired by western designs such as the Dodge Coronet and Ford Mustang, with flared fenders, an aggressive front end, and other little design aspects to give the car a “muscular” look.

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no detailed interior in this car this isn't a Sendo
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Phones as Cars #2 - Samsung Galaxy Note7 (2016)

because why the fuck not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Previous Post: Google Pixel 4 XL (2019)

https://i.imgur.com/ZATcyFO.jpg

The Galaxy Note series is a series of high-end luxury GTs created by Samsung*, a Korean automobile firm. Despite being equipped with high-end hardware like its Galaxy S series counterparts, the Note series of vehicles are always 2 door GTs as opposed to the 4 seater sedans of the S series. Often, the Note series are above the S models in model hierarchy.

* Samsung actually has an automobile making firm IRL, i.e. Renault Samsung Motors (basically a Renault and Nissan vehicle rebadger), but in this post I meant the IRL Samsung Electronics that made your phones, TVs, and other stuff. The Renault Samsung Motors logo shown on the car is just used for consistency purposes.

https://i.imgur.com/up9pOiL.jpg

The Note7 was launched in 19 August 2016 as a replacement for the outgoing Note5. With its improvements of the vehicle, including improvements to safety, improved Exynos V12 turbos, the use of the newly released Type-C fuel entrance port, and the use of an iris recognition system to help users unlock and start their vehicles easier.

https://i.imgur.com/Nw5hORE.jpg

At the first few days of its sale, reviews from many users and outlets were praising how great the car is, due to the excellent build quality, loads of features, high performance and comfort. But then, the first reports of the vehicle exploding have seen. It seems like it’s a normal phenomenon(for a product that just got on sale, at least) for what it seems, but as time goes on, more and more reports of similar incidents have begun to appear, with caused the destruction of the vehicle and some even causing injuries and deaths.

https://i.imgur.com/01yHJKj.jpg

Prelimary vehicle inspections have found out these explosions have caused by a faulty fuel tank system, which caused the fuel tank to overheat and explode. Because of that the company issued a notice for all Note 7 users to recall their devices in an attempt to fix the problem.

https://i.imgur.com/5b8posO.jpg

Despite all of the recalls, the problem still persists due to another issue that still caused explosions. It was serious enough to the point where many roads have banned the GT from being road-legal. Facing the issues, Samsung has announced the discontinuation of the Note 7 in 11 October 2016, just months after release. All vehicles are recalled again due to the incident, with some users gotten other models (specifically the S7 Edge luxury sports sedan) or a cash refund.

https://i.imgur.com/1tiLJvI.jpg

But, is the GT destined to be canned forever? Not quite. In July 2017 Samsung released a refurbished version, known as the Note Fan Edition (FE). The vehicle remains the same as in the original, but it is now equipped with a smaller, yet specially designed fuel tank to mitigate the problem. Thankfully, the refurbished model doesn’t pose a serious issue to all.


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What if… The Renault Twingo was produced in the 80s

The basic premise with this thing is that Renault wanted a car to accompany the Renault Super 5 to create a dynamic similar to the Levin and Trueno from Toyota, however, they did not want to spend too much money on development.

The engineering is pretty simple with this one, it uses as much parts from the Renault Super 5 (the actual replacement of the 1st gen 5) as possible. This means it uses the same 1.1 C1E engine, transmission, brakes, suspension, chassis, steelies and even the rear lights of the Renault Super 5.

Not just the engineering is borrowed from the super 5 but also some of the styling cues: as mentioned as before the tail lights are ripped straight from the renault 5 but the upper grill is also the same as the 5. The rest mostly resembles the mk1 Twingo. The smug frog eyes are represented by some cute pop-ups and some blushing indicators next to the grill. The lower grill was inspired by the phase III since the psychopatic smile from the phase I looked a bit out of place. The interior is an 80-fied version of my mk1 phase III Twingo.

I plan on creating a 1.4, a GT Turbo and perhaps even a group 5 version of this cheese wedge, a Turbo I/II was also considered but not only wouldn’t that make sense with the Trueno-Levin Dynamic since the 5 Turbo I/II was already in Gr. B, but also since there’s no mid/rear engine layout.

Downloads:
Renault Twingo 1.1 Campus: Renault_Twingo_-_Mk_0_Phase_1_Campus_1_1L.car (120.4 KB)

Alpine Twingo GTA PRV: Alpine_Twingo_-_Mk_0_Phase_1_GTA.car (126.2 KB)

Renault Twingo 1.4 GTS: Renault_Twingo_-_Mk_0_Phase_1_1_4_GTS.car (122.9 KB)

Renault Twingo 1.4 GT Turbo: Renault_Twingo_-_Mk_0_Phase_1_1_4_GT_Turbo.car (178.5 KB)

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What if … Citroen creates a true rival to the Renault Clio RS?

Especially in a retro style? A four-cylinder turbo engine of 2 liters, which will make this “baby” accelerate to 100 km / h in just 6.4 seconds? French flag right on the window line? - This is really exciting!



Admit that many people would want such a hot hatch from Citroen.

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