As the public doors are opened over at he DSD stand the Saratoga I and Turbo trims are rolled out onto display. Test drives are being offered over the last two days of the Motor show.
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Darkshine5
#145
ramthecowy
#146
I’m only slightly attracted to the Exedra…
please send help why do I like it so much
Vri404
#147
Ideas are always pushed away, Nobu is ideals.
#Introducing the Hodan Nobu Concept.
Pushing the limits of design and ideas, this is a look at what could happen to design. Nobu extends thoughts of the future, and beyond. Small, economical, powerful engines, in aerodynamic and light frames. Nobu is the start of that ideal. Nobu is the Unknown. Nobu is the Future.
Even Gods give birth to the Horse
And Pegasus is Just that.
#Introducing the Pegasus Ceres Range
Pegasus is the New American and European brand from Hodan. This is their first creation, the Ceres. Five models will be produced, Low-Range, Mid-Range, Mid-Range2, High-Range, and CeresRS. Today, the Mid-Range2 and CeresRS will be shown. The white model is the Mid-Range2, utilising a 2.7L V6 making 200hp, it allows the Mid-R2 to be able to run for long whiles on a full tank. Price is $33,000
But Ceres has a Dark Side…
#CeresRS
The CeresRS is a pure monster. 600hp, 3L TTV6, Wider Stance, AWD, and Aero Bits. With a top speed above 300km/h, and a full suit of add-ons, this turbo lagging menace will be on sale for $60,000.
Thank you, more standard production reveals throughout the rest of the Show.
DeusExMackia
#148
#Hey you!
Update: we’re organizing a photoshoot for some of the cars being released at this show. If you have a new high-end sports car or city car/supermini being displayed at this show, please send it to me if you’d like it to be involved!
Can’t promise it will be anything special, just a few group shots essentially. This isn’t a review or anything by the way.
Deadline is Wednesday 15th March, 19:00 GMT, though I’ll extend this if people really want to.
MarcoAlla
#149
TURIN Automobili s.p.a. A NEW PLAYER ON THE SPORTCAR MARKET
The use of the name “Marcos” on the preview image was a pure marketing moves, for gaining visibility and atract the interest of peoples, Marcos ltd it’s going on bankruptcy in 2007, and there’s no relationship between the two brand.
Now that i have your attention, i can reveal TURIN! Turin it’s a new brand that take the name from the city of Turin, in the north of Itlay, were Turin Automobili has headquarter and facilitys.
The company was formed by a pool of expert automotive workers from a lot of different automotive and design companies. All the staff it’s moved by unique passion and target: create the best driving experience!
The company has worked on the last 3 years developing from zero it’s first sportcar the Exalt!
TURIN it’s proud to present the new EXALT!
Exalt it’s a family of lightweight mid-engine sportcars, that share the same chassis and powerplant, in different tuning level.
The “base” Exalt it’s made to be an affordable and reliable sportcar, with elevate performance on road.
We have obtained this results thanks to a lightweight construction, using a glued aluminium chassis
that combine extreme rigidity, low weight and reasonale costs, with light CFRP body panels and a small but powerful Turbo engine.
Talking about the engine, it’s a extremely modern unit, ALSI 1800cc L4 16v featuring the best tecnology such VVL-T, HCT, DFI, Liquid intercooler, Ball bearing turbo and equal lenght headers.
The, engine in this version it’s tuned to 200hp, offering a good compromise between performance and maintenance cost.
Huge attentions in aerodinamics were made on the exterior for better aerodinamics and cooling efficency.
The exalt it’s a pure two seater, so the interior are sport oriented, with a basic infotainment and A/C
Weight: 960kg
Performance figures:
0-100km/h 4.6s
0-400m: 12.90s
80-120km/h 3.1s
Top speed 255km/h
EXALT S
The Exalt S packs a more powerful version of the 1.8 engine rated at 255hp @7900rpm.
The “S” offers lower and retuned suspension, upgraded brake rotors and shorter final ratio. The weight increase to 973kg
The performance increase to:
0-100km/h 4.1s
0-400m: 12.30s
80-120km/h 2.6s
Top Speed 274km/h
EXALT GT
The Exalt GT it’s a more comfortable version, on the exterior it differs form the other model thanks to the chrome accents, dedicated rims and higher suspension.
On the inside features more comfortable seats, leather trim, a complete infotaiment and better noise insulance.
The GT also came standard with the 6 speed double clutch gearbox and progressive suspension springs.
The weight of the GT increase at 1029kg, but thanks to the adoption of DCT the performance are unchanged
Performance figures:
0-100km/h 3.9s
0-400m: 12.18s
80-120km/h: 2.5s
Top speed 270km/h
EXALT R340
At the top of the Exalt range there’s the R340 model, as the name suggest, under the bonnet, there are 340hp from the revised 1.8 T engine.
Lighter piston and internals, new camshafts, larger intercooler, revised turbo and downpipe and a new design oil pan, assure great performance and reliability on track use.
Power is transmitted to the rear wheel trough a 6 speed Manual or a retuned 6 speed double clutch, assisted by an electrical controlled LSD.
Wider semi-slick tire on 18" magnesium or optional carbon rims, for reduced unsprung mass and extreme cornering performance.
The weight decrease to 930kg.
The engine it’s feeded by a new air intake on the rear bonnet, and a set of vents keeps the engine bay cold. On the front fenders new vents help reduce the air pressure in the wheel arch. Larger front sptitter and canard work togheter increasing the vertical downforce at the front, at the rear a revised undertray, and a bigger active wing assure high level of downforce.
The performance on track are exaltating! with cornering and breaking forces of 1.5g, high stability, great traction and a powerful engine that scream at 8800rpm, the R340 it’s a true giant killer.
Laps Time will be reavealed in future, but we expect a low 7 minutes on the green hell and 2 minutes on the ATT
Performance Figures:
0-100km/h 3.0s
0-400m: 10.95s
80-120km/h: 1.8s
Top Speed 295km/h
TURIN will present in future more version of the Exalt range, and actual it’s working on the development of a Supercar.
The page of Turin automobili will be online very soon with more info e news about the company, so staytuned!
Thanks to everyone!
MarcoAlla CEO Turin automobili.
Grandea
#150
2017 Zenshi Altaris
The third generation Altaris made it’s way to the Zenshi booth today, presenting an agressive aura thanks to the Shinka design applied to it.
Unlike the previous generations which were based on a modified platform of the Taiko (Zenshi’s general utility vehicle subsidiary) Tsumori, the third generation Altaris is based on a modified Axia platform, thus resulting in the lack of sliding rear doors, causing the once-then minivan to transition to a general MPV.
Upon looking at the Altaris, one might think the brawny-looking 8-seater MPV would be heavy, and they would be wrong. Because it has traditional opening rear doors, the Altaris has saved quite a bit of weight, weighing in at 1,650 kg (200+ kg lighter than the previous generation), which is light for a big family hauler. Couple that with the driving dynamics Zenshi is known for, and you have yourself a family athlete.
The base model Altaris will be powered by the 200 HP QS25GDA 2.5L Inline-4 engine mated to a 6-Speed Manual transmission on a RWD platform. Higher trims and options allow for the Altaris to be equipped with the SM-AWS all-wheel drive system, 6-Speed Avantec, and/or the 320 HP LZ6-ME 3.7L Inline-6 engine.
At a starting price of $29,950, the Altaris will hit the dealership floors soon.
Dorifto_Dorito
#151
The EADC Verona is our flagship line of sedans since the 1982. With the release of our latest model, we decided to let a Japanese company modify and tune it.
The result is the EADC Verona JR2…
Unlike the standard Verona, which produces a measly 102hp, the JR2 produces an astonishing 385 hp from a 1.9L i4, derived from the 2003 EADC Vixen Rally engine. This power, coupled with the lightweight aluminium panels, mean that this car accelerates to 62mph in 4.5s.
Since EADC want to provide a good driving experience in our cars, we have fitted this car with standard interior and all the expected driver assists. In additon, these driver assists can be turned off for a more challenging and fun drive.
Unlike the standard Verona, the JR2 has new and improved aerodynamics, specifically designed by JRT, based of their work and experience in F1 and WRC, to slip through the air smoothly while maintaining traction on all wheels. Making the JR2 just as fast as the V12 Corsair round a circuit.
Prices start at £22,100 and expect to find the JR2 in EADC dealerships in Europe and Asia by April (Sorry America)
accent
#152
We think pushrods can still be a viable option, and that a real American muscle car should have a 5 liter pushrod V8. Our in-development engine reaches performance figures, reliability and economy that are easily up to modern standards. With direct fuel injection and twin turbochargers, we get 468 horsepower. AlSi block and head keep the engine lightweight.
We’ve put the engine into a concept car that accelerates from 0 to 60 miles per hour in 4.8 seconds. We’ve filled the car with all the latest technology in safety and entertainment. It will be a nice place to sit in, whether you’re staying still or moving at top speed. Work title for this project was “Interceptor”, but we felt that the rise of hybrids and electric cars necessitated a name reflecting our view that the muscle car should stick to good old traditions.
Our aim is to have the Resistance available for purchase in early 2019 with a price tag in the 50 000 dollar range. The concept car shown here today is not representative of the final model, so we will not be releasing exact technical details at this time. The engine’s performance might also still improve during development.
cpufreak101
#153
#2017 Riviera R official launch
Today, we have finally ordered dealerships to uncover the Base model of the new Riviera. will be available as either Standard and stick, or automatic and standard for our European buyers. and yes, in traditional Riviera fashion, will remain RWD. Here is the spec sheet.
Now a hint to Tomorrow’s reveal technically later after the review of the day due to timezones)is going to be the number 6, and this stock photo of a can of beans.
Dorifto_Dorito
#154
OAM finds itself very traditonal…thus I need to out tradition you!
Ahem…OAM will be selling the 2017 Chevalier 2 with pushrod and carburettors how about that…just kidding 
DeusExMackia
#155
#Daily Round-Up - Day 1
Hello and welcome back to Geneva, where day one of the show has just finished. The exhibition halls of the Palexpo have been packed today as the public got to glimpse the latest and greatest from the automotive world.
Let’s dive right into Day 1!
Today’s musical accompaniment is Professional Griefers by deadmau5
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IMP, Monolith, LaVache, AMCC and Nuntius kickec the day off with a full reveal of the group’s upcoming cars. New versions of Monolith’s M-X and GST were shown, the former of which was a special edition in honour of the car’s crowning as SUV of the Year 2016. The newest version of the S1 was also shown, or rather the first of 2 versions of the new S1 was shown, in this case being a 415hp wagon.
Then came the reveal we’d all been waiting for; at a special keynote held in the main auditorium, the brand new GS260R was at last unveiled, having been teased like crazy over the past 2 weeks. The new coupe, based on the GS250, is a departure from the more saloon-styled versions of the 260R from the 90s, but it looks to be just as potent and powerful as before. An updated version of the 2.6l V6 from the original sits under the bonnet, while the body itself is made of carbon fibre, which should certainly make this thing nimble as hell. Oh, and it looks fantastic.
LaVache unveiled a new turbocharged version of the Thundercracker compact; it packs 350hp and sends that to all four wheels, yet retains the elegance of the standard car. How very civilised indeed! AMCC showed us the new Hercules pickup and the new TurboTech engines that will be powering the range, as well as a smooth looking pre-production concept of the Comet sedan. Their big reveal, however, came in the form of a new ‘analogue’ supercar called the Hurricane X, a 680hp AWD orange monster that looks gorgeous.
Nuntius also revealed a replacement for the old Exedra, powered by a 370hp V8 and coated in weirdly-orange-brown paint.
EADC’s newest version of the Corsair, the CRX, arrived today in time for a sort-of reveal where we learned that it has a 7.1l V12 under the bonnet, a very large engine indeed for a GT Car. We’ll have more on this soon when full specs are released, though we can tell you that EADC have hinted - by saying that they won’t, essentially - that they’re going to be coming back to GT racing, just not yet. Yeah, sure, ‘not yet’…
A weird thing came at lunctime today; Betta sort of released a car, called the Polaris line. We think, at lrast. The smart supermini certainly looks nice and is banking on its lack of chrome as a selling point. We really aren’t sure about that marketing slogan, however…
A little after 1 pm and I found myself in the auditorium once more for the AL Autos presentation. Neither me nor the hundreds of other journalists were ready for what followed - the company gave us an almost ridiculous number of new cars as one by one 12 different cars were unveiled. To say the least, you could the mad typing of everyone in that room above the crazy music despite how loud it was as journalists scrambled to note down everything.
I really didn’t know where to start with this, nor what to say, but I can tell you that the company are releasing 3 different Le Mans cars, none of which will apparently actually be competing in any endurance competitions. As well as this, a coupe of some sorts called the Luce and a mid-engined car called the Montare wa…right, I’m sorry, but there’s only so much one can take in during a keynote, and this was frankly ridiculous. How do you people even have the money to develop so many new cars at once anyway?!
Thankfully, DSD restored some of my sanity and quenched my excitement as, at long last, we get to drive the Saratoga. The companies most hyped vehicle ever, this aluminium sports coupe looks phenomenal from the outside. On the road, it’s even more impressive. We love the gearbox; it’s your usual SC sequential, but its spaced well and feels really usable.
The big wheels, which come in at 285/295mm F/R respectivley, do limit the nippiness and sharpness of the thing, but the excellent suspension makes up for that. It deals with bumps and road imperfections well, and handles smoothly with plenty of grip. Acceleration is quick enough to be fun yet very easy to handle, and it feels planted at speed. For a really fun experience though, go for the Turbo option; it’s a 213 mph screamer that lacks the finesse of the base model but packs loads of power, making it feel more like a miniature supercar.
Hodan unveiled the unusual looking Nobu concept, an aerodynamic concept with slightly divisive styling that is apparently an extended thought from the future. Nope, me neither.
On a separate note, a new company called Pegasus was launched today, an “American and European brand from Hodan”, with their debut car being the Ceres executive saloon. Designed to economic and civilised, the restained and simple styling of the Ceres will certainly appeal to some looking for a large sedan without the usual bling and luxury touches found on rivals, some of which have been revealed at this show. Don’t be fooled by its simplicity though, the Ceres RS trim should excite you a little more - it’s a 600 hp, AWD twin-turbo monster with sleeper styling. We likey.
Another new company, Marc-, sorry, Turin, also launched today, having apparently undergone some rapid rebranding. This “New Player on the Sportcar Market” revealed a smart looking sportscar platform called the Exalt today, featuring sharp if generic styling and a range of trims, all powered by the same 1.8l Turbo i4. These include the S, a 973kg, 200hp gnat of a car that’ll do 0-60 in 4.1 seconds - very fast indeed -, the GT, which is apparently more comfortable yet only weights 50 kg more, and most impressive of all, the R340 trim, which squeezes 340hp from that same 1.8l engine and will deliver you to 60 in 3.0s. That really is supercar killing performance right there!
Zenshi had a new version of the Altaris for uis today, a large MPV with good looks. Fairly powerful and coming in at just 1650 kg even with 8 seats, it should be quite nippy to drive. Meanwhile, EADC showed off a tuned version of their Verona compact called the JR2. This 385 hp - yes, 385hp in a compact - derives its power froma rally engine that sends it from 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and new aero. They claim its as fast around a track as their Corsair - we’d love to see that showdown!
At last, the anonymous advert proclaiming the last V8 to “be a good one” bore fruit: the 2019 TMT Resistance! This 468hp muscle car is much less orange than on the poster, but has a push-rod engine and will cost ~$50k. No details as of yet of much else as its still a concept, but this certainly looks to be a solid muscle car, though push rods are unusual. Perhaps its about maintaining some tradition.
Finally, just before doors closed, Galt announced the new Riviera R. Specs look slightly perplexing: a 138hp car that will do 0-60 in 9.3 seconds yet tops out at 166 mph. Magic? Witchcraft? Or just some special engineering? We’ll have more on this soon.
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That wraps up today’s events. Gavin won’t be able to do any writing for a few days as he’s busy with real life stuff, and will be back on Sunday. He’ll do his best to cover everything that gets released over the next few days as best as possible, but might have to do it over a few posts etc. Either way, he’ll see you then!
(back in character)
In the mean time, the official opening night party has just begun at the Le Verre à Monique bar, and Gavin will be attending the annual Genevan Grand Get-Down tomorrow night - it’s one of the biggest show-related events on the automotive calendar and is sure to have a few too many industry representatives getting way too drunk. More on that after my inevitable hangover has cleared…
Bye for now!
-Gavin Anderson
Dorifto_Dorito
#156
Sorry mate, but its not as fast as the CRX, i meant the base Corsair…that being said, the base corsair still makes around 600hp…
TheMiltos21
#158
What Betta released was the Polaris concept, powered by the Geneve 1.0 engine, and introduced the Polaris Line trim to many betta cars to come. Essentially… less chrome, more black’n’red, for the lovers of the “sportier” looks. 
Brilliant reviews as always mate
TheMiltos21
#159
Betta Cammello. A brand new hatchback with a different and refreshed take on the design department compared to other Betta models.
abg7
#163
That is one of the craziest hypercars I have ever seen. It’s so insane, only a fool (or an extremely brave individual) would dare to take it outside a racetrack!