Can anyone beat my Dudecia? Thanks to its low weight of only 664 kg it gets 50 mpg (US) / 4.7l / 100 km and does 0-100 kph in 11.3 sec. 
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Iām compiling some statistics before I go to bed.
Also, Iām sorry @CVJOINTsequence but you never sent me a car with an engine year of '88 or earlier, so I must 
your entry.
This leads to eleven entries for me to judge.
Hereās some stats to tie you over.
Cars without MacPhersons: 1
Cars with MacPhersons: 10
Cars with Torison Beams: 7
Cars with Semi Trailing: 3
Cars with Solid Axles: 2
Best Fuel Eco: 55 Modified for LQ gas
Worst Fuel Eco: 23 MPG
Average Fuel Eco (including modifier): 33 MPG
Cars Using Rear Wheel Drive: 1
Cars Using Transverse FWD: 10
Cars Using Fiberglass 
: 3
Cars Recieved Without Any Design (I thought it was interesting): 2
Average Test Track Time (Rounded): 2:51
Fastest Track Time (Rounded): 2:38
Slowest Track Time (Rounded): 3:16
Inline Engines: 10
Boxers: 1
EcoCarbs: 6
4 Barrels: 4
DCOE : 1
Lowest Boost: .01 BAR 
Highest Boost: .55 BAR
Also, while I gave you statistics, do you want me to be more critical of stuff such as Min/Max, or do you want me to go off of hard stats? Are you interested in my inferences on how you built the car?
- Judge based on stats alone according to the scoresheet, like a true bureaucrat.
- Judge based loosely on the scoresheet, but keep in character. (Break the 4th wall when necessary.)
- Throw out the original scorecard and go based on whatās realistic (while still in character). (4th wall breaks might be common here.)
- Other Option? (Tell me below.)
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Iām off to bed, but Iām looking forward to seeing the responses. Hope these stats and the poll can tie you all over while Iām at work.
Wow, 55mpg, and I thought my 50 were hard to beat. Who built that, how did you do it? How much power does that engine make?
Itās you mate. 49.9 MPG + 10% = Basically 55 MPG.
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I thought people were going to be building more meme machines lol
Can we get the stats for what types of heads people were using on their engines?
There were almost 2 with DCOE carbs, but I changed my mind in the final design phase. lol
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Almost every engine was SOHC 3v or 4v. I think there was one pushrod engine too.
That would make a lot of sense, I just went with the pushrod 3 cyl, with cast pistons and a single eco carb because I thought itād be funny to see if it comes close to anything
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Oh 
I forgot about the added bonus 
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I am not exactly surprised mine was the only boxer. I am surprised that Iām above-average for economy despite powering my 2.1L boxer-6 to (I think?) the fastest time. I felt like I needed to at least provide some kind of engine punch (pun not intended) if I was going to go for the city car body type.
Probably lost on price because I did more maxing than minning, IYSWIM 
But Iāve clearly not embarrassed myself. Yay!
Love this challenge and hope we get more along these lines 
I used overhead cam, 4 valve, 4 barrel carb. 1.5 l 3-cylinder, 55 hp
The First Round
You have your technical documents ready as three men enter the shed near a large, newly constructed shell of a factory, paid by the state of course. Three men enter the room. Peter, the National Head of Accounting. Gregory, current figurehead of the Peopleās Parliment, architect of the current new car production laws, notoriously reckless driver, and war hero. Finally after a small delay, Charles, the National Head of Engineering enters the room, simply asking āwhat do you have to show for usā. You start shuffling through designs your Junior Engineers have submitted.
Starting off with the design sent in by @mgobla. The Deducia Economy
You: This is the first design my engineers sent me.
G: What is that abomination of a color!
You: We are engineers, not artists sir, but the fiberglass panels tend to come out that way. You can paint over it if you donāt like it.
C: Fiberglass? A bit questionable, but Iām listening.
You: I think youāll find the economy ratings to be more than sufficient. A whopping effective 55 MPG when I take your gasoline standards into account.
P: Far more than sufficient. How much do you expect this project to cost?
You: A fair amount. Nothing crazy, but it is worth noting. The best part about the fiber panels is that the people can make their panels in their villages if the proper requisitions are made, great for dispersed production.
P: Yes, but we have the steel presses for the chassis HERE, retorts Peter. My estimates show that each car will be about $20,000.
G: This is nice and all, but how fast can this thing go?
You: Fast enough to get you out of a bind. Sheās powered by a very square 86mm Inline 3. The front brakes are vented, and like to lock first though. We got her around the testing track in 2:50, but the driver was complaining about back problems. It is a 2+2 by the way.
C: I can see why, these dampers are way too hardā¦ and whatās this, a calculated roll angle of fourteenā¦ is that a decimal? One point four degrees? My god. That sounds painful.
G: Besides those points, this seems like a very good candidate for adoption.
P: The production cost is high, but itās worth it for our refineries.
C: Iām still skeptical of the springs and the panels, but it seems okay, what do we have next?
Passes to round 2.
Next on the list, you present the concept made by @FitRS. The Katsuro Archan
You: Hereās the next concept I have, this one is fiberglass, but we painted it. She holds a very oversquare I4. This one is 33 adjusted MPG.
C: Interesting. Not as good as the last one, but it still is a respectable value.
P: What about the cost to manufacture?
You: We estimate around $14,900, so itās a quarter the price of the last one.
P: That seems a bit high for my liking.
G: How fast is it?
You: It got around the track in 2:55.
C: Wait a secondā¦ iām looking at the proposed torque curve for this engine, why does it look so similar to a naturally aspirated engine?
You: Well, there IS a turbo in there, and it gives āan amountā of boost, but you need highly sensitive tools to tell.
C: No.
You: Why?
C: No, thatās why. We arenāt using a turbine as an excuse for a muffler, itās not even a good muffler next!
OOC: You did use a turbo, but there was also 
. .01 BAR spooling at 3.7k RPM does not work.
Does not proceed to round 2.
C: Okay, whatās next?
You: Well, next we have @Jaimz with the FM Street
C: Is that a lip on there?
You: Yes, it is. It reduces the drag.
C: I know what a lip is for.
P: Whatās the estimated cost here?
You: Well, each car is about $14,200, and they should get a bit above 31 MPG. This one does have corrosion alloyed steel panels, so thatās part of the cost.
P: Unfortunate, couldāve cut costs there, though I suppose itās good for the people to not be driving rust buckets.
G: All they have to do is keep the paint on the car to deal with rust. How fast is this?
You: She got around the track in 2:45, so a good deal faster than what Iāve shown you thus far. Sheās got some power behind her. Some of that is siphoned off by the power steering though.
G: I like it, whatās inside?
You: Inline 4, ecocarb a bit undersquare with forged pistons, and cast everything else.
C: Uhā¦
G: No, whatās INSIDE.
You: Oh, you mean the seats and such? A reasonably posh interior, with a good cassette player and radio, as well as cutting edge safety.
G: Hmmā¦
C: Thatās expensive though. The forges wonāt be cheap either.
P: Indeed.
G: It sounds interesting, but what else do you have?
OOC: Itās not shown, but forged internals are a rather massive investment. The interior is also a bit overspeced for a shitbox in every possible way, most entries are basic safety. Itās a decent car, but not āthe peoplesā car.
Barely doesnāt make it to round 2.
You: Okay, hereās one from @VicVictory. He called it the Nuvia Griego 1800T.
G: I donāt like the name already. Sounds too Fruinian.
You: Well, sheās a pretty decent design. Five seater, with an Inline 4, and the usual suspension setup.
G: How fast is she?
You: She got a 2:40. Sheās got 110 horses at the flywheel.
G: Quick.
P: What are the numbers?
You: 23 MPG on regular gas.
P: Oofā¦ compared to the other conceptsā¦
You: She is pretty cheap to make though, only 12,100!
P: Fair enough.
C: You know, if this was geared better, I bet I could get it to go to 25 MPG, but alas, itās not the case. Those tires look huge too, tone them down and put the right compound on, and it would be great. Itās a no from me.
P: Iām afraid I must agree.
G: Next!
OOC: There were quite a few small mistakes that added up to a big 
. The eco could have been improved in a variety of ways. The carb was above stociometric, the tires were wide, and the wrong compound for a shitbox was used. Too much sport, not enough eco. I liked the power you were able to pull off on the engine, but it wonāt work here.
Does not make it to round 2.
You: Okay, next on the list is fromā¦ @reeve509 who forgot to put his name on the blueprintā¦ (Heās lucky I just caught that now after I wrote this upā¦ saved from the )
G: Whatās this one then?
You: This oneās quite a lot like the last one I showed you. Sheās more fuel efficient, she runs on the correct fuel, sheās just 1k more expensive, and has about the same power:
G: Whatās inside this one, how fast? You know the drill.
You: Sheās got a basic seating arrangement, no radio on this one.
G: Fair enough.
C: Sheās got a bit of a tight roll angle, 3.4 degrees Iād guess.
G: Less roll, more power to get around the corners!
C: Ehā¦ sure, thatās how it works.
P: By more fuel efficent, what did you mean?
You: Sheās got a rated fuel eco of 33.
P: Pretty reasonable.
You: What do you think of this one?
G: Yes.
C: Yes
P: Why not? Weāll fast track this one to a concept. What else do we have?
Passes to round 2 (you got lucky).
You: Okay, next we have a car from @HighOctaneLove. With the Bogliq Bugle.
G: I have a feeling that iām going to like this one.
P: I have a feeling iām not.
You: Okay, this is the next blueprint I have. A rear wheel drive, full steel five seat machine with a pushrod I6 and a few webbers.
C: Excuse me, what?
You: DCOE?
C: I got thatā¦
P: I thought I wouldnāt like itā¦
G: Go onā¦
You: Well, she scores a 21 on the MPG test, but sheās been cheapened up by using a solid axle rear, along with the usual MacPhersons. Sheās only 12,500 to make!
C: Hah, no.
P: With that economy? No way!
G: Yes!
C&P: Absolutely not!
G: Fine, but Iām taking the concept anyways.
OOC: This car simply canāt compete in terms of fuel economy. Itās more or less a budget premium car.
Does not make it to round 2.
You: Okay, moving onto @ShinyBat. With the Pipi Downtown Turbo.
G: This one looks boring.
P: Itās perfect. Boring is cheap
You: Well, this proposal is fiberglass, with a Boxer 6 and twin eco carb. She scores a 35 MPG.
C: Thatās a very interesting idea you have there. I was not expecting a boxer conceptā¦
P: How much will this cost us?
You: About 16,400 per car.
P: Itās a bit up there.
C: Well, it should be with the fiberglass panels, and the boxer in there.
G: How fast is she?
You: This is actually my fastest concept and scored 2:38 on the test track.
G: Impressive!
C: Iāve noticed someā¦ unique features about this concept. Front tires bigger than the rear, full clad tray, the spoiler actually gives downforceā¦
G: So?
P: Itās over-engineered.
C: Well, yes, but itās nothing I havenāt seen before or toyed around with. This thing will want to oversteer like crazy, are we sure we want the people to have this?
G: Yes.
P: Eh, Iāll leave that to your judgement.
C: I am not opposed.
Passes to round 2.
You: Okay, next I have @Xouryās concept.
G: What the hell is that?
C: Thatās whatās colloquially referred to as a āwagonā sir.
You: This one is a pretty neat concept. She scored a 27 on the adjusted fuel eco test. She was pretty slow on the track though at almost 3 full minutes.
C: Am I reading this right? Transverse front solid axle?
You: Yes.
C: With the torison beam rear?
You: Yes.
P: How much does this cost?
You: Just $8,170.
P: What!?!
C: Well, she is just a body on frame design, itās bound to be cheap.
G: This is not the car weāre looking for.
C: Iād disagree, this is the car weāre looking for, itās just for the wrong task.
OOC: This one was really interesting, and I liked it. Doesnāt fit the job thatās required though. Too low eco.
Does not pass to round 2, instead, car will be re-purposed as a rural rescue services vehicle.
You: Next on my list is @Arn38fr with the Decarlis EC 30.
G: I like the shape of that one.
You: This is another fiber design. She scores 40 MPG, but she is using regular gas.
P: Good, and bad, go onā¦
You: Sheāll cost us about 14,800 to make per car.
P: Thatās a tiny bit pricy, but okay.
G: Speed, inside, go.
You: 2:50 on our track, standard four seat interior.
G: Pretty quickā¦
C: I see no reason to drop this one. Seems pretty bog standard.
P: Iād agree. The economy of these cars wonāt hurt us much, and they are relatively cheap.
G: Iāll take one.
Passes to round 2.
You: Next on my list is @WALL, with the Futurama.
You pull out the blueprint.
C: Points at the blueprint. No.
You: I havenāt even started yet.
C: I donāt even need to see the details.
G: What?
P: I donāt understand either.
C: Look at these design specifications, every single part of this car needs to be designed down to the micrometer, and it still bottoms out. We arenāt doing this.
P: How much will it cost us though?
C: If I had to fathom a guessā¦ three times the cost of the last car.
P: Okay, yeah, no.
G: Alright then, moving on!
OOC: Just because you can use quality sliders, does not mean all the quality sliders should be +5. Your car brought up the average price of all the cars by $2,000.
You: Okay, my last submission is from @CriticalSet9849 with a last second entry.
G: This one is very red.
C: Thatās our default designing color. We can keep it, or we can scrap it, up to youā¦ Oh, itās a Coupe!
P: Specs please.
You: Okay, this one is another middle of the line car. She scored a 33 MPG on our test, but she needs regular gas. Expected unit costs are $15,400.
P: A little bit pricey, and the eco could be better.
C: Iād have to agree on that one.
G: You know the drill.
You: A 2:50 on the track, four seats, with a quite high spec interior package.
C: Yeah, if we stripped the car down a bit, Iād go for it, but as it stands, too posh.
G: Set this one aside for my collection.
P: Itās decent, but doesnāt quite cut it compared to the other concepts.
OOC: Itās a decent build for Automation as far as itās concerned. It just doesnāt cut the mustard for what this contest asks for.
Does not pass to round 2.
That leavesā¦
@Arn38fr, @ShinyBat, @reeve509, and @mgobla for the last round of judgement!
@reeve509 as the only non-fiber entry, so thatās something I should note. I probably shouldāve banned it at the beginning of the challenge, but yet here we are.
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First off, nice reviewā¦wait what am I sayingā¦it was awful because I got binned!!! 
Franklin Marshall stopped putting basic anything in when the tech became available. Standard is our basic.
The lip was for showā¦as is the rear lipped wing. 
And finally I used forged to help with the fuel economy.
And is the Pipi using rubberbands for tyres? Looks like it would deform the wheels if it hit a pothole! :rofl
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The Pipi has some of the lowest profile tires Iāve seen on a '88 car.
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you know, I had a feeling that cutting a v6 in half was a bad idea
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I was very much on the fence on passing yours. If you were able to get the eco above the average, or close to it, you probably would win.
I mean you did say it must have a turbo with more than 0 boostā¦ thatās what you got 
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Binned in the first roundā¦ Nice!!! 
Hey @VicVictory, since Iām hosting the instabin, Iāve got some XXXX Golds chillinā in the esky for ya!
Iāll be drinking Bundaberg Ginger Beer and Iāve also got Cascade Apple Cider for anyone whoās been binned so far (that doesnāt want some XXXX, lol)
Party at my placeā¦ Woohoo!!! 
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Party theme: Black eyes and instabins?
I went a bit nuts on the power because somehow, everyone else always squeezes an absolute assload of power into their ecoboxes like this. Iām not miffed about the bin, I never quite know what to expect when making something for a 3rd world market. Iām actually a little proud that I got that beast so powerful and so fast with such a restrictive turbo, a carb, and frankly less than an hour of tuning. lol
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