Automation Detroit Auto Show 2017 [BEST IN SHOW REVEALED]

Luke returned after a day away from the auto show, driving a Twilight Blue compact sedan.

He got out, found one of the Auto Show’s journalists, then said, “Care to take an official report? Because this car just made it here, from Chicago to Detroit, without hybrid technology, and without a single drop of gasoline or diesel fuels.”

He waited for the reporter to get ready, then continued on with his statement.

Now, I believe you’re from the magazine, so I’ll answer what was asked. You asked whether more time should be spent searching for a replacement to the Internal Combustion Engine. I don’t think so, personally. Hybrids are a stop-gap forced upon the auto manufacturers by ever-tightening restrictions and regulations. Electric cars, while a nice idea, are a nightmare waiting to happen. I believe the bigger problem is the one everyone keeps ignoring. We need a fuel that is renewable as a stop-gap before we even think about getting rid of the internal combustion engine. Why? Because, like it or not, the automotive industry has put decades of work into the internal combustion engine to make it more reliable, more efficient, more powerful, but no work, no research has gone into bringing technologies that were competitive in the 1910s and 1920s up to the same levels.

What this means is that while electric cars, gas cars, and steam cars were all competitive in 1910, by 1920, gasoline had nearly killed electric and steam cars because it was cheap, easy to run, and had decent range. A modern gasoline engine is hundreds of times more efficient compared to the early 1920’s engines, producing more power at higher RPM with more torque and while consuming less fuel. But our electric motors are only dozens of times more efficient, because no regulatory standards were inflicted on factories building electric motors to power vehicles. Battery technology crawled along at a glacial pace because for nearly 100 years, no one cared about a lighter battery that produced more power.

Which brings me to the point I intended to make in the first place. Our problem is that we’re too focused on eliminating the internal combustion engine without first considering the results. The power grid can’t handle everyone switching to battery cars, it’d just wither and die and we’d have people calling off of work left and right because their car’s out of power. The power stations still rely on coal and oil and natural gas to make more than 70% of the nation’s power, so all we’d do by electrifying every car in the United States is force power companies to build more power stations.

Hybrids are a necessary stepping stone, yes, but they’re not the only half of the equation. We need to break our dependance on fossil fuels, and we need to do that sooner, rather than later. That is why we built the Storm Solara. It is our test-bed for alternative fuels. I drove from Chicago to Detroit with my 39 mile per gallon, $20,300 estimated cost, 5 seat economy car. Doesn’t sound that remarkable, does it?

However, as mentioned, I didn’t burn a single drop of gasoline on the trip, and that is because I made my own fuel for the run. The fuel tank on this car has a capacity of 30 gallons, and that’s only because I didn’t know what to expect when I assembled the engine. The result is a car that will travel 1170 miles on a full tank.

So, what is my fuel? Alcohol. In the 30’s or 40’s, it might have been called moonshine, but for the purposes of this trip, it is simply fuel. However, this engine will run on any flammable liquid that can produce an octane rating around 76. Yes, 39 MPG with such poor fuel. If I refined the engine for regular gasoline, I believe it could be possible to break 45 MPG, maybe higher.

My belief is that fossil fuels are the inefficient part of the equation. They don’t renew in a reasonable time span and their power outputs, while impressive, can easily be matched with modern technology and a fuel humans have been making for thousands of years.

Sure, there’s better fuels than alcohol, but the thing is, we don’t need a perfect fuel in 20 years time, we need a decent replacement for gasoline now.

Luke then got into the Solara and drove it back to where the other Storm Automotive cars were at, shutting it down and joining the rest of the Raceworks Division in signing posters of the cars.

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It’s interesting that the Solara is tuned for 76RON, because E100 has an octane rating of well over 100 :wink:

Also, ethanol is not as energy-dense as gasoline, so a 30-gallon tank of ethanol only contains the energy of a 20-gallon tank of gasoline.

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It’s tuned as a multi-fuel engine. It will run on any fuel that can be ignited with a spark. The retail versions will have the proper tuning for the fuel they’re intended to run on.

(Though I do thank you for mentioning that I can use Ultimate Unleaded to simulate ethanol. Oh, and it’s tuned for 76 AKI, not RON. I did know it’s not as energy dense, though, hence the large fuel tank.)

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Technical specs added to Fiacci release post.
http://discourse.automationgame.com/t/cavallera-motor-and-design-company-this-thread-is-coming-to-a-close/17986/415

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Considering that theres quite a bit of interest on alternate fuel/propulsion for cars, should someone make an off topic thread about it? Unless of course if a thread for that has already been made and I just havent found it.

Also I would like to raise a problem about ethanol as a fuel source. Firstly to produce ethanol from sugar cane, lots of time is needed, since the sugar needs to ferment. In addition, the ethanol also has to be filtered multiple times to make it usable as a fuel source. This overall takes lots of time and effort for a relatively small output. Furthermore, to produce ethanol from sugar, lots of space is needed. Space for the sugar plantation, space for the processing plant, space for the storage tanks for ethanol and resources. This completely negates the idea that ethanol is more eco-friendly due to it’s smaller carbon footprint since to make the space for these facilities, many trees have to be cut down. And this is why ethanol cannot be a replacement for petrol. As an additive, however, it is something that should be done.

In my opinion, hybrid systems are the best short term solution. In my view, a hybrid car should only be using a small ICE to run an electric generator to produce electricity for the electric motor that will run the car. This way resources are used more efficiently and less materials are being used in the production of cars.

Another one comes on display…

Specifications and more detailed information can be seen at our company thread or visit our exhibit at the Detroit Auto Show.

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Over at DSD

Introducing the 2017 DSD AROWANA

We at DSD like to think outside the box and after 15 years of development Darkshines personal project is complete.
We started out with an Saratoga glued alloy chassis to which we fitted push-rod suspension to each corner and mounted the all new 2.5L twin turbo v8 longitudinally in the middle of the chassis resulting in a 60:40 weight ratio.

The next step in the vehicle’s evolution was the vacuum formed fiberglass body shell which is bonded to the alloy chassis. The body is designed to be as smooth through the air as possible whilst still creating enough down-force to force the car into the Earth.

Active wings are used to help set the rear spoilers whilst cornering, these are not your standard Active units but rather use flaps built into the rear wings and front bumper to adjust downforce on the fly.

The heart of this beast is an all new Magnesium cross-plane 2.5L 40valve V8 producing 560hp.
Whilst this may not sound like much in the Automation world this car is an example of simple engineering done right with weight and aerodynamics a far bigger factor in how fast and frugal this car is. Not for the faint hearted the turbos spool aggressively at 5000rpm before a shove of torque and power races the redline to 11000RPM.

The other option is the Hybrid. The turbos have been replaced with an electric engine, however unlike most hybrids this engine is used to create extra power and torque and not to be used as a fuel saving device. The electric engine kicks in at 3000RPM before being cut off at 8000RPM torque is fed in slowly to allow better throttle response and control. The resulting 280hp engine feels like nothing before it.

Attached to this engine you will find a twin clutch 7sp manual trans-axle fitted with a tradition LSD and an AWD system with a 20/80 torque split…
We used magnesium again on the 21" wheels and Federal 555 tyres are fitted to each corner.
Behind the wheels are enormous 420mm/275mm vented disc brakes with 4 piston calipers on the fronts and twin calipers on the rears.

Inside you will find 2 sporty seats trimmed as always in Red Deer leather and Bunya pine with the entire swathe of driver assists. However there is no fancy active suspension you get one setting and one setting only, this is a true performance car you do the work not the computers.
The stereo is adequate with a set of 3 way component speakers mounted in each Lambo style door and a single 8" subwoofer mounted under the dashboard.

Performance figures are extreme considering the price of each vehicle with the R doing 0-100km/H in just 2.9sec and the S doing the 0-100 sprint in just 4seconds flat. Cornering G’s regularly reach over 1.5 with the active aero keeping all four tyres planted on the tarmac.
The R trim will retail for $64999 AMU
The S trim will retail for $43999 AMU

Below is the stat sheets and export for each vehicle

TYPE R


darkshine5 - DSD AROWANA.zip (58.5 KB)


ladies and gentlemen we thank you for coming to Detroit the cars will be on display for the rest of the show but for now DSD is signing off.

A roundup of the cars presented




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Even without time to spend at the new prototype we could somehow at least put it together. All we know until now is how the car will look and what engines it will use, everything else is still to be worked on.

So with no more waiting, we present you the all new Gamma Suri!




The Suri is our compact SUV, for the ones that want a comfy and high ride without needing to worry about small streets and parking spots.

It’ll be available with two engine configurations:

  • B316VD

  • Displacement: 1600cc

  • Cylinders: 4

  • Head: DOHC-16V

  • Fuel System: Direct Injection

  • Fuel Quality: Regular 91 RON

  • Max. Power: 133 hp @ 7600 rpm

  • Max. Torque: 154 Nm @ 5400 rpm

  • Redline: 8100 rpm

  • B320VD

  • Displacement: 1998cc

  • Cylinders: 4

  • Head: DOHC-16V

  • Fuel System: Direct Injection

  • Fuel Quality: Regular 91 RON

  • Max. Power: 170 hp @ 7500 rpm

  • Max. Torque: 195 Nm @ 4900 rpm

  • Redline: 8000 rpm

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Announcement

After alot debating, we announce that the speeder concept (Name will be changed of course) will go into a limited production of 200 units,the production start is still unknown and the price isn’t settled yet.

So you still have to wait a bit.

Brivio are just getting the finishing touches done on the classic cars ready for display, there will be a small charge of $5 to enter the auction car display when it is finished but it will give you full access to the cars, test drives will be available but only to serious buyers, the auction will take place on the 21/1/17, we hope to see you there, bag yourself something great, there will be cars for all price ranges.

Before MAC finishes its time here at NAIAS, we would like to reveal one more fine automobile to Detroit.

Ladies and gentlemen I give you the new Miller RA-41 Celes.



It will come equipped with the same 4.1L twin turbocharged SOHC V8 found in our new Miller ZA-41 with a few more horsepower in the RA, producing 511 HP to be exact. Those 511 HP will be sent to the rear wheels via the new Miller Celes Seven 7 speed dual clutch sequential gearbox.

The RA also features adaptive aerodynamics and suspension. Inside you will find all the amenities you would find in the Miller Prestiege Deluxe. The RA will be available in late spring with pricing to be revealed later on.

On behalf of the Miller Automobile Company, I would like to personally thank you Detroit for allowing us to reside in your town for 65 years and for taking the time today and the rest of the show for viewing our display.

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##Daily Round-Up - Day 9
Welcome back to Detroit, where the 9th day of the show has just ended. Incredibly, we’re still getting some big releases and announcements this far into the show, which is certainly turning this year’s show into one of the biggest ever.

Let’s get down into the details of day 9!

Today’s musical accopniament is Concerto for Two Piano’s, K 365 (Third Movement) by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart


Storm unveil Ethanol powered sedan
Adding to the debate over the future of cars, Storm waded in today with the new Solara concept, and ethanol powered car. Using just distilled alcohol to power it, the actual display car made the trip from Chicago to Detroit by itself just to get here. Storm’s ethos behind the car is “we don’t need a perfect fuel in 20 years time, we need a decent replacement for gasoline now” - that’s quite the mantra.

Plausibility has come into question though. Representatives from EADC pointed out the huge costs and environmental impact caused by the production of ethanol, while an Adenine spokesperson made the important point that Ethanol lacks the same energy density as petroleum, meaning larger fuel tanks would be needed. One other problem we can see is the exhaust gases from these cars - they won’t be toxic, but they could make you make you drunk.

Assoluto launch the Infinito
For some completley inexplicable reason that we simply cannot possibly fathom, we predicted that Assoluto might be about to launch a V12 GT 2+2 Coupe (no idea how anyone could have worked that on out). Anyhow, they have, in the form of the Infinito. The 6.0l V12 powered, 720 hp super GT is monstrously fast, made from a blend of aluminium and carbon fibre and is styled to perfection. We already love it, and we’re told that one is being sent to us for a roadtest next week. Eek!

DSD launch final car of the show with a fantastic show
To the echoey soundtrack of Tango In The Night-era Fleetwood Mac (we most certainly approve), DSD today launched even more vehicles to complement an already strong line-up. The Arowana, a modified version of last years brilliant Saratoga, was the real star of the show, having apparently been in development for over 15 years (we aren’t too sure how that works). The mid-engine, AWD supercar features a vacuum molded fibreglass body, ultra advanced active aero and two powertrain choices, a conventional 560 hp Turbocharged 2.5l V8 that seems to have come straight off an old F1 car, or a naturally aspirated hybird version of the same engine. Both versions seem equally savage.

Along with this, the three other new vehicles the company launched were also on display, and it’s certainly one of the strongest line-ups of the show we’ve seen so far.

Gamma launch their first car of 2017
Brazillian auto maker Gamma launched a new car today in the form of the Suri. The cute little car entices you with its curvy styling, which certainly fit in with the compact SUV image. Two naturally aspirated engines, a 1.6l and 2.0l i4, will power this car, which is expected to do well in its home market. We’re certainly struggling to find faults…

Roadrunner show off an American hero
The graceful old Roadrunner Cerberus was back on display today, this year marking its 50th birthday. This aircraft carrier of a car was surprisingly efficient for what it was back in the day, coming in sedan and wagon form. Both featured ahead-of-their-time styling and still look gorgeous today. Plus, it was great to hear the restored 10l, 500hp V8 Man-O’-War engine fire up once more - it’s still an asbolute monster.

Miller introduce new V8 sports car
Miller announnced the final car of the show today, the RA-41 Celes. This new, lightweight, carbon fibre sports car is powered by the same 4.1l Turbo V8 found in the ZA-41 luxury SUV, only tuned to produce a lot more power. 511 hp is sent to the rear wheels via a 7 speed DCT, so it appears to be a very traditional affair. A full release is coming later this year, and we certainly can’t wait to see how it fits into the current sportscar market.


While all this was going on, we even had a time for an interview (ooh fancy that!).

Rayssa Almeida of the Gamma PR department came over to the studio to discuss thew new Suri.


That does it for today’s round-up. I’m still hung over from that 80s Night yesterday so I’m hitting the hay early. Ta ta for now!
-Gavin Anderson

EDIT: Corrected spelling mistake in Gamma interview (17/1/16)

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Huh? We did?

Oh yeah we did… Right. In co-operation with the NAIAS organizers Assoluto has decided to open up the Assoluto Experience stall where people visiting the show can sign up to ride in one of our cars for a tour around the city, or for an added fee, drive themselves around for a set limit of time. Customers can choose between the Fatalita, Ghepardo or Infinito cars for their drives.

Deskyx - Ghepardo.zip (26.6 KB)
Deskyx - Infinito.zip (26.7 KB)
Deskyx - Fatalita.zip (50.3 KB)

(THE CRINALE IS OFF LIMITS DON’T ASK)

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Montes it shows the first preview about the next hypercar, under the motto “the revolution of downforce”.

P.s. And the secret of this car is the body underneath. Massive ground effects.

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Zenshi will soon be showcasing a lineup of their smaller cars for the 2018MY

And…

…another car that has been the around since the company’s early days.

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Oskiinus, please. You’re cluttering up the thread, that wasn’t necessary.

Alright, deleting.

However, I must admit that vmo did probably something that can be called street legal F1 car for Automation actually. Pretty neat thing, but Montes always has been a brand that surprised me for several times.

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@vmo I do hope you’re not trying to bribe Gavin Anderosn with excellent music choice, I f*cking love that song :wink:

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That’s it.

Im just gonna say it… music was better in my day bring back the late 80’s and 90’s

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