That is a very very loud car. I’m not sure you could even sell the thing.
Baffled mufflers don’t drop much power, are cheap, and light, and are reasonably quiet. You should really strap them on and improve comfort while you’re at it.
Omitting the mufflers (or using a single straight-through one) is only required on race cars. Road cars must be quieter as you pointed out. If I had been the one building the Horizon, I would have used a pair of reverse-flow mufflers, which are quieter and less restrictive than baffled ones; those advantages negate their extra cost and weight in my opinion.
Also, although the Horizon uses a tube frame, why is such a chassis type actually heavier than a monocoque made of the same material in the current stable and beta builds?
I seem to recall in a Let’s Play or maybe a Dev update Killrob said that around 60 loudness is a good number for sportiness, so I aimed for that with this car. I like to imagine the Horizon is around Jaguar F Type R levels of volume, but maybe I don’t understand this game’s loudness scale. This car is supposed to be a primitive, aggressive brute compared to the competition, so I feel like the absurd loudness and terrible comfort fits.
Dual reverse-flows? This isn’t a luxury car, haha.
I think the confusion with tube frame chassis is that there are modern chassis referred to as space frames which actually have more in common with a unibody than a tubular frame. Real, old school tubular frames are a bit heavier, but they can be assembled using simpler tools. I felt it fit the lower tech theme of the Horizon better.
Edit: Oh, you meant one reverse flow on each pipe? Still a bit too quiet for what I was going for.
What’s that you say? The Horizon isn’t fast enough for you? Some of the crazier folks at Teller sympathize with you. The Horizon is a fast car, for sure, but come on. A hard top coupe would surely be lighter and sport lower drag, and why did they stop at 7.4 liters? There’s plenty of room for more engine on that thing’s chassis. The Horizon is already crazy, but why not go even crazier? Convertibles are fun, sure, and there’s nothing else quite like that V8 rumble, but you know what else is fun? Going very, VERY fast. In fact, Teller was working on an even faster Horizion before they scrapped it for the one you know today. Fortunately for you, they were tempted by the magic 200 miles per hour mark that their competitors were now approaching and even exceeding. If other people were doing it, why couldn’t they? It’d be a shame for all of that research and development to go to waste, after all. They could have road-ready examples out there long before they could develop a completely new car as well. It was just too tempting. Enter the 1992 Teller Horizon ll, it’s time to get serious.
This isn’t just a coupe variant of the Horizon with familiar, but quirkier looks. Under the hood of the Horizon ll is an 8.6 liter V12, dubbed the Hyperblock, cranking out a staggering 500 horsepower. That’s nearly 100 more horses than what’s on tap in the Horizon. Combine that with an aerodynamic undertray and the Horizon ll’s sleek hard top and you have yourself a machine capable of hitting 213 miles per hour. How many cars out there can hit that kind of speed without all kinds of space-age valvetrain technology or forced induction? Not many. A single cam, some push rods, and a heap of glorious displacement does the job just fine, and just the like the Horizon’s Superblock you’ll have a very wide power band at your disposal. How does a quarter mile time in the neighborhood of 12.5 seconds sound to you? 0-60 in under 5 seconds? You want speed? Here’s your speed, and we’re giving it to you without complex all-wheel drive systems or a motor stuck behind you.
Don’t forget that this car is a HORIZON, which means you’ll be getting one of the rawest, purest driving experiences out there. There may not be a V8 in front of you anymore, but the clear, smooth growl of a massive, low-revving V12 is nothing to sneeze at either, especially with its liberal exhaust system keeping much of the beast’s sonic glory intact. Power steering, ABS, and traction control aren’t available for the Horizon ll, granting the driver complete control over the vehicle. We aren’t ones to water down the fun with computers. Needless to say, a car this fast without driver assists can be VERY dangerous, which is why potential buyers will have to be evaluated and required to attend training courses provided by Teller Performance themselves before they are able to purchase and own a Horizon ll.
It doesn’t get much better than this as far as we’re concerned. 8.6 liters, 500 horsepower, rear wheel drive, we’re here to deliver the goods. This is pure angst and fury on four wheels. This thing has BALLS. So what are you waiting for? Give us a call to schedule your evaluation.
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Really? I’m glad you said that, haha. This car is supposed to be very arrogant.
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You have a real hard on for the first gen Viper do you?
Not that it’s a bad thing in any way. 
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Haha. I may open up another company to get some other ideas out there, but I wanted to inject a ridiculous, OHV-loving, brute force kind of sports car company into this forum (and yes, I love the Viper), so here we are.
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The V12 version also has an overhead-valve engine, which is a bold choice, but one that fits the car’s old-school nature. The Horizon II also brings to mind the Cerbera Speed 12, simply because it’s one of the nuttiest supercars I have ever seen.
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abg, please stop tagging people where it doesn’t matter. They get a notification when it happens, and are generally used for discussion or results, so please refrain from here on in, okay?
Got it - just removed the tag from my previous post. But will there be other Horizon variants, or any new models other than the Horizon?
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I do have one more idea for the Horizon, but I’d like to work with a tuning company for it rather than develop it as a new Teller Performance car. If you are familiar with the Dodge Viper, which this car clearly isn’t even a little inspired by, you may know where this is going. With that out of the way, the next Teller will be a new platform.
I’m glad to hear that. I wanted this car to come across as crazy 
. I like the OHV V12. It adds a little variety while still sticking to this company’s theme.
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Teller Horizon ll Details
8607cc OHV EFI 24V V12
Bore & Stroke : 3.555" / 4.409"
Performance Index: 353.1
Throttle Response: 39.6
Loudness: 62.3
Smoothness: 84.1
Reliability: 62.4
Required Cooling: 409.8 kJ/s
Weight: 569.0 lbs
Size: 32.316" x 22.682" x 16.234"
Service Costs: $2277.00 per year
Emissions: 627
Economy: 18.55% - 0.682 lb/(hph)
Type: 2 Door / 2 Seat Sport Coupe
Wheelbase & Length: 8’4" / 14`1"
Chassis: Steel Space Frame / Aluminum Panels
Drivetrain: Longitudinal RWD (Geared LSD)
Gearbox: 5 Gear Single Clutch Manual
Suspension: Double Wishbone (F) / Double Wishbone (R) (Standard Springs with Gas Mono-Tube Dampers and Passive Sway Bars)
Wheels: Sports Compound Road 305/40R17 (F) / 325/35R17 (R) with Magnesium rims
Brakes: 2 Piston 285mm Vented Disc (F) / 1 Piston 180mm Vented Disc (R)
Weight: 2979.4 lbs
Top Speed: 213.9 mph
Weight Distribution: 51.7 F / 48.3 R
Aerodynamic Eff.: 5.9 ft. squared
Braking (62 mph - 0): 103’ 2"
Quarter Mile: 12.42s @ 129 mph
Standing km: 21.45s @ 167 mph
Acceleration (0-62 mph): 4.7
Acceleration (50 mph - 75 mph): 2.1
Cornering Small Skidpad: 1.15g @ 33.6 mph
Cornering Large Skidpad: 1.09g @ 115.7 mph
Downforce Front: -103.4 lbs @ 124.3 mph
Downforce Rear: -105.1 lbs @ 124.3 mph
Max. Roll Angle: 2.68 degrees
Drivability: 24.3
Sportiness: 56.9
Comfort: 10.8
Prestige: 50.4
Safety: 32.0
Total Cost: 8256.79
Production Units: 81.28
Practicality: 22.4
Utility: 14.6
Offroad: 7.8
Avg. Reliability: 74.6
Economy: 15.0 mpg
Emissions: 982.2
Fuel Type: Super - 93.1
Environmental Resistance: 68.83
Material Cost: $6834.42
Passenger Space: 2139 L
Cargo Volume: 356 L
Engineering Time: 205.54
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That car is even crazier than the original Horizon! It’s good to see someone making the most out of old-school tech and using it to create mind-blowing machines. 
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That’s genuinely not far off hypercar levels of performance. I love it!
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Thanks, both of you 
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Here at Teller Performance we aren’t opposed to doing things a little differently than our competitors. Plenty of companies are out there making high performance coupes, but how many 4 doors do you see out there capable of speeds in excess of 170 miles per hour? How many sedans feel right at home in the corners? You see, we noticed a gap in the market, and we decided we needed to fill that gap. We decided we were going to make a 4 door that rivaled the performance of some of our competitors coupes, so we got to work. The result? The Teller Solar, an 180 mile per hour sedan.
Don’t think this car is going to offer you anything other than the performance you’ve come to expect from Teller. you’ll still be getting a quarter mile time in the low 13 second range, and guess what? You’ll still be pulling over a G in the corners. 0-62 in the neighborhood of 5 seconds is still possible as well, and don’t forget about that 180 mile per hour top speed we mentioned earlier. WE DID NOT COMPROMISE. Just because this thing has 4 doors doesn’t mean it can’t perform. We didn’t even opt for a smaller engine, oh no. We plopped the Superblock into this bad boy, the same engine that’s in the Teller Horizon, except we’ve given it a little tweak to bring it up to date and ran it a little hotter to reach 180 miles per hour. Now this thing is cranking out about 428 horsepower with a mountain of torque still at the ready.
Not only does the Solar have all of that going for it, but this is also the first Teller we’ve quieted down a bit as we prepare for stricter noise regulations. We even put a cassette player in this one, so it’s sort of practical I suppose? Certainly the most practical a Teller has ever been. But, the Solar isn’t just one of the few high performance sedans out there, it’s also one of the few, if not the only, sedan out there that emphasizes the driving experience, but did you expect anything less from a Teller? No driver aids here, so you better come prepared to DRIVE. Does that sound good to you? Give us a call. We’ll set you up with the mother of all sedans.
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Teller Solar Details
7405cc OHV EFI 16V V8
Bore & Stroke : 4.031" / 4.425"
Performance Index: 296.3
Throttle Response: 40.8
Loudness: 51.2
Smoothness: 50.5
Reliability: 64.2
Required Cooling: 341.5 kJ/s
Weight: 510.1 lbs
Size: 24.992" x 21.688" x 22.546"
Service Costs: $1863.37 per year
Emissions: 600
Economy: 17.57% - 0.720 lb/(hph)
Type: 4 Door / 5 Seat Sport Sedan
Wheelbase & Length: 8’8" / 15`6"
Chassis: Steel Space Frame / Aluminum Panels
Drivetrain: Longitudinal RWD (Geared LSD)
Gearbox: 5 Gear Single Clutch Manual
Suspension: Double Wishbone (F) / Double Wishbone (R) (Standard Springs with Gas Mono-Tube Dampers and Passive Sway Bars)
Wheels: Sports Compound Road 265/40R17 (F) / 285/40R17 (R) with Magnesium rims
Brakes: 2 Piston 280mm Vented Disc (F) / 1 Piston 160mm Vented Disc (R)
Weight: 3003.5 lbs
Top Speed: 180.0 mph
Weight Distribution: 56.8 F / 43.2 R
Aerodynamic Eff.: 8.6 ft. squared
Braking (62 mph - 0): 106’ 4"
Quarter Mile: 13.26s @ 119 mph
Standing km: 23.10s @ 151 mph
Acceleration (0-62 mph): 5.3
Acceleration (50 mph - 75 mph): 2.5
Cornering Small Skidpad: 1.12g @ 33.1 mph
Cornering Large Skidpad: 1.04g @ 113.2 mph
Downforce Front: -133.6 lbs @ 124.3 mph
Downforce Rear: -138.2 lbs @ 124.3 mph
Max. Roll Angle: 3.57 degrees
Drivability: 28.0
Sportiness: 41.9
Comfort: 13.7
Prestige: 35.7
Safety: 32.7
Total Cost: 9820.62
Production Units: 93.07
Practicality: 62.2
Utility: 18.7
Offroad: 7.5
Avg. Reliability: 73.2
Economy: 14.2 mpg
Emissions: 993.0
Fuel Type: Super - 93.1
Environmental Resistance: 69.32
Material Cost: $8191.95
Passenger Space: 3430 L
Cargo Volume: 897 L
Engineering Time: 208.03
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Had that car existed in real life, it would have been the most insane four-door sedan on the planet! But why does this beast also have a space frame?
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It’s familiar technology to the Teller Performance team. At this point in the company’s timeline with them pushing out new models left and right they are trying to incorporate as much tech they’ve worked with before as they can in order to cut down on development time.