1974 Letara Auto Convention (FINAL RESULTS)

The increased tech pool compared to LHC is nice (+3 in engines, +16 trim), but price is still very low, I agree - my luxury cars are twice the price allocated here. Even with the new tech pool place in most costly components, my luxury car is still 35k and cannot even enter the priciest category.

Considering luxury cars are starting to get taxed at 25k, the price should definitely be higher.

I would suggest that, if you want an affordable category, have a specific category for it. “Best car you could actually buy”. Otherwise most performance and luxury brands in Letara won’t be able to enter (other than making worse cars for the show).

Otherwise a really great idea.

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this, but instead of that. Have a production category, and a none production category. Production can have cars that might actually get made, none production is for stupid ahh cars

What do you think about doing each category one at a time, so you have more entries per category?

Regarding Techpool and pricing, I have increased the both, and allowed for higher quality and more gas options.

Regarding some of the categories that you have proposed, some of them I do like the idea of, so I think that it would be best to decide the via a poll.

Number of Submissions
  • 1 Submission (Current)
  • 2 Submissions (1 Per category. Pros: More cars you can submit. Cons: Possibly longer grading time)
  • 3 Submissions (1 Per category. Pros: You can submit in every category. Cons: Possibly way longer grading time)

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Categories
  • Keep the categories the same; Luxury, Innovative, Sporty, Best. More of a competition like challenge.
  • Categories based on if a car will be produced. Category 1 will be cars that are more likely to be produced (Lower budget, Lower techpool, More Realistic), with 2 subcategories: Standard cars and LuxurySports cars. Category 2 will be cars that are not going to be produced, and are used to show how cars can push the limits (Higher Budget, Higher Techpool, Less Realistic). Car of the year would only apply to category 1 cars. More of a relaxed challenge. Possible delay of submissions opening.

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Major Overhaul Complete

I have now changed the rules of the challenge to match what y’all wanted from the poll. Due to the tie in the number of submissions, I just decided to go for the middle and just allow 2. Submissions will still open at the same time. Feedback is much appreciated!

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Since techpool has a huge impact on price, and price is 3-star for category S, I’d vote for much stricter techpool rules at least for that category. (Quality rules are fine IMO)

Since this is Letara, how about taking the LHC3 techpool rules, adding a few selected points here and there (similar to the evolution from LHC2 to LHC3) and making that techpool mandatory for category S at least?

Perhaps also for R and X, with a few (R) and a couple (X) TP points for everyone to distribute freely for a few selected unlocks or stat boosts? (For category S any points to choose will end up in chassis, engine family, fuel system or interior anyway if price stays 3-star…) Max price may need a slight adjustment in this case for all three categories (or even not?).

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When you say one car per category is that one production and one non production? Or one luxury sports and one non production.

@AndiD

I don’t want to reduce the tech pool too much in the categories because these are meant to be concept cars with futuristic tech, but I will reduce it a little bit. I will also reduce the budget a little bit and the pricing on the priority list.

@mart1n2005

What I mean by you can submit 2 cars per category, I mean submittable category (S, R, X). This means you can submit two cars in the production category, but one has to be S and the other R.

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SUBMISSIONS ARE OPEN!

Submissions are now open and will close on Friday, Febuary 10, 2023, @ 23:59 GMT. Good luck to everyone participating, and I hope you have a good time.

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I am finding these price targets tricky. However, Canmo has a couple prepared.


First is a production-capable exotic inspired by Ferrari and Lamborghini - the Sprint Wagon Concept. It’s a V12 powered shooting break style wagon with 2 seats that fold into a bed. Glass spans between the tail lights, similar to the Lamborghini Espada.



The second is the introduction of the first generation Canmo Kestral. This car shares
a platfrom that evolved into my Canmo Sprint coupe from the 80s that I submitted to another competition. In essence it’s a be-spoilered mild concept version of a new production car, with some added vents, alloy wheels and paint to match the Sprint Wagon Concept. It’s powered by a new 2.2L featuring high technology such as fuel injection and dual overhead cams - this engine would go into the production car in a cheaper tune.




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1974 Walkenhorst-Manthey 650X-G5 Turbo Concept


Presented to the LAC in 1974, the 650X concept was the first official presentation by Walkenhorst’s official Motorsport arm, Manthey Racing. This formation was spurred by the increase want for sport performance models, and the want for Walkenhorst to go racing officially.

The 650X concept goes all in on the idea of Turbocharging. Taking a 3L Inline six, adding a turbocharger, allowing it to make 650hp to the rear wheels through a 5 speed gearbox. The concept presents an idea for how Walkenhorst and Manthey could present themselves in motorsport competitions going forwards.

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I still think that none production should have an unlimited price

is anyone even going to read this? I guess I'll just put a spaceship here (_)(_)=====D~~

Planar History Files: Planar’s 1974 Letaran Auto Convention stand.


For the 1974 Letaran Auto Convention, Planar brought two cars, the cheap and sensible PG15 Genoace, and the out-of-this-world Ghiraga III concept.


PG15 Planar Genoace

The first car unveiled was the new revision of the Genoace, Planar’s small and cheap car that was never officially sold in Letara. The PG15 brought to the '74 LAC was nothing more than a styling update of the car, but they still showed off their sporty 2000 model to gauge interest for cheaper Planars in Letara.

OOC: Just imagine the B pillars on the Genoace are black I only just noticed that they were the wrong colour before posting WHOOPS.


Planar Ghiraga III concept

The Ghiraga III was a wild concept intended to show what the future model of their Ghiraga GT would look like. But of course, being the 70’s it was a wild wedge concept with even wilder ideas.

Externally, it was already what you’d expect from a crazy wedge concept. Thin lights up front flanking air intakes that housed hidden pop-out headlights, all part of a plastic integrated bumper, BIG side exit exhausts, a large lightbar up the back, and futuristic wheels.

Internally, however, was something else entirely. According to Planar it was driven by two gas turbines, showing the cleaner future for the company through high-tech engines. In reality it had two dummy turbines in front they could point to, but it was just a fancy fibreglass shell wrapped around a chopped up supercar chassis, complete with a mid-mounted V12 for when it needed to be moved.

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1974 Wolfe Urbania Concept

Wolfe is proud to present at the 1974 LAC the new, truly personal luxury car - the Urbania.

This concept car idea came to Wolfe engineers after the unprecedented floods of '69. How about a small car that can do it all? Semi-amphibious, it can wade through low bodies of water, it can handle some rougher terrain and it is small a nimble. And fast.

Performance is not to be glossed over - With 200hp, this tiny car can accelerate to 100km/h in about 4 seconds! It can even reach 200 km/h when you are late to an important meeting.

The interior is 100% Wolfe - handmade, plush and state of the art amenities. It can even seat two comfortably, and the folding passenger seat can make way to enough luggage space for a weekend getaway.

The Urbania - it can take you anywhere!

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If the Genoace is meant for the common man, and designed and engineered accordingly, then the Ghiraga is the answer to the question “What would Planar’s flagship supercar - a halo car for the whole company - look like?” I’m sure the gas turbine would be unworkable, but the V12 won’t be - and a production version of the Ghiraga deserves nothing less.

1974 Mara Kavaler 4.0 SKE

Note: this is a continuation / interlude of the Mara story from the regular LHC thread between eras 3 and 4. Follow this link to the last post of era 3 in the LHC thread If you want to catch up on names, lore etc. (you can work your way up through the posts).

14 March 1974
Great Exhibition Hall, Lerance, Letara

On the morning before the beginning of the first day of the 1974 Letaran car show, Rodyn Gumprov, recently appointed as Mara’s Comrade Vice-Director of Engineering, reflects on the past couple of years as he slowly walks towards the Mara stand located in a corner of a side room of the exhibition hall.

He spots Inna Horyova, the Comrade Director of Letaran Operations, who is already there and oversees some last minute adjustments to the display of the facelift-preview Irenas (which includes the very first Letara-only special trim).

The Mara exhibition area - the Kavaler in yellow

Long lore dump and more pictures inside

The initial event that set a large number of other changes in motion at Mara was the unexpected passing of Henri Nordhov, Mara’s Comrade Executive Director, in late 1969. The-then long-term Comrade Director of Engineering, Fedor Piechov, was appointed as the new Executive Comrade Director.

One of the first things in Fedor’s tenure was to make a new clean-sheet car design project the priority for everyone in car development at Mara which had started as his pet side-project outside of the planned car model categories. Thus, for the last few years, every Mara development engineer had been working towards designing a modern comfortable large premium sedan. In the end, the resulting car was named Kavaler, but the project itself was named Helios (and almost named Phaethon after Helios’ son).

Rodyn’s colleague Yenna Bielicka from the engine department was named Fedor’s successor as the new Comrade Director of Engineering on grounds of the success of her production and racing engine projects. Another factor were the needed skills, as there was no engine development project on the horizon.

Rodyn - who also had harboured hopes to be Fedor’s successor as CDE - was instead assigned to lead Fedor’s Helios project. The resulting Kavaler car was outside of any five year plan, but on excellence alone convinced Archanan state officials nonetheless to give special permission to put the car into (limited) production, with any state official getting first dibs, if they so desired.

The Kavaler’s top Komfort Exra trim received a slightly detuned 4 litre V8 engine from the Irena interceptor, making just over 130 hp. Instead, the focus in the Helios project lay on car engineering innovations: coil instead of leaf springs in the rear, an automatic gearbox, hydraulic power steering, vented disc brakes front, a more premium interior with electric windows and the recently invented 8-track in-car entertainment system, flaked paint for the exterior and last but not least soft radial tyres, along with the necessary suspension re-tuning for maximum comfort.

In recognition of his work on the Helios project Fedor had awarded Rodyn the - largely ceremonial - title of Comrade Vice-Director of Engineering as Rodyn’s daily more hands-on duties hadn’t really changed. Among these were overseeing the substantial Irena facelift after the conclusion of the Helios project. This assignment allowed Rodyn to carry over some of the innovations and lessons learned from the Helios project to the new Irena facelift where feasible.

As the Kavaler is currently in limited production for the domestic Archanan market (and state officials can jump to the top of the waiting list based on their rank), there are no plans, however, to sell the Kavaler to the public on the Letaran market in the near future. The display on the car show is more intended as a tech and innovation showcase, and to possibly attract visitors to the Mara stand in the first place.

To be continued in the LHC main thread

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1974 Wolfe Vampira Concept

Wolfe will also be unveiling the Vampira at this year’s convention.

Built on a completely novel and never done before wedge concept, this supercar wannabe is based on everything Wolfe learned in racing and promptly forgot.

This metallic cherry baby will cruise at insane speed and is nearly as fast accelerating as the Urbania! You’ll get a sporty but very luxurious interior with a sometimes working cassette player and advanced but untested safety features.

With pretty cool gull-wing doors, popups and aggressive styling, this is the car you’ll dream of having in your driveway but probably are happy you don’t because we had to implement a lot of cost cutting initiatives to even deliver this concept.

Maybe on the market in the near future? For sure the Vampira will bite down the competition at LAC!

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SUBMISSIONS ARE CLOSING SOON

Submissions are closing in three days, so start sending your submissions. Reminder: it closes on Friday, Febuary 10, 2023, @ 23:59 GMT. I did not include this in the main post, but please PM your submissions to me. If you see your name in the list below, it means that you have posted an ad, but you have not PM’d your submission:

@crwpitman1
@karhgath
@AndiD

Please do this before the deadline, I’d prefer not to bin any cars.

Oops - I will send mine tonight!

Knightwick small car for the next decade



Still in the early prototyping stage this is is the preview of what we are working on for our brand new ground up small city car to be launched in 1980.
Knightwick have always had a solid strategy with reliable premium small cars using well established construction techniques. For the future we see the need for a modern cutting edge approach to small cars, customers don’t need to see small as “cheap”



For this car we have engineered a new modern revision on our longstanding A series small engine, the cast ohv head has been replaced with an aluminium overhead cam head. The engine is available in the current 1275cc and 1098cc sizes. The 1098 offers the power of the 1275 ohv engine with improved fuel economy, lower emissions and lower weight over the front wheels. As with every Knightwick engine it can run on clean E10 fuel widely available in Letara.


The front end has a low cd “aero” design to it, the bonnet is shaped to flow air as easily as possible, with the inset headlights aiding this and also giving the benefit of keeping the glass out of the way of any errant stone on the road. With careful design we have been able to design the front end to be as clean as possible but also allow enough air to flow through onto the radiator to keep the engine cooled adequately.


The rear is a modern and fresh “hatchback” design. We have designed the boot opening as high as is possible while keeping the access still very comfortable meaning the rear section is a solid piece giving more strength to the rear of the car in case of a rearward collision. The tail lights have also been designed as separate housings so in the event of damage only one light needs replacing instead of the whole unit at high cost to the end user.

On the subject of safety we have engineered the car to have impact absorbing bumpers front and rear, these will stop impacts up to 5km/h from impacting the body of the car. Reflective side markers are also fitted, at the rear these are red and light up with the tail lights. The ones towards the front will reflect light as orange and also have the dual benefit of becoming extra indicators offering better visibility to pedestrians and other road users.
The complex indented side design gives higher structural rigidity to the car and also breaks up the side of the car giving and interesting design point.


We have also paid great interest in how the interior is designed. All instruments are housed in a central “pod”, this make left and right hand drive vehicles much easier and quicker to produce. Another benefit is now how open the view is for the driver, with no large instrument binnacle breaking up the forward view out onto the road. A large easy to read speedometer is flanked by temperature and fuel gauges, with controls for lights and heater mounted below.
You may notice there is no central gear control, this is because the gearbox is a four speed automatic 'box to make city driving as easy as possible. The controls are mounted on the right hand side of the column giving a much more open cabin with the only floor device being the parking brake.


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