A legendary legacy, Coupes! (Round two! subs open)

Yellow again!

I am back with the same idea for a challenge, to build a legacy throughout different years, for your cars. It’s a practice of keeping a design langynot only on how you make the car look, but to keep it’s identity through engineering too! Born a dumb muscle car in 60s that burned rubber with an open diff? How did it do after the gas crisis in 80s? What’s the modern tale on it (in 2000s).

The idea is simple, keep a car’s identity

Make me say, oh it’s that car… But there is always more to the story! That’s why this challenge is also focusing on the story you can tell with the car, it takes in the lore/idea that you had behind the car. If something changes, Why? Why was it changed? If it’s justified, then good job! But also if you carry a hard part of the cars identity throughout its life, then good job! That’s great.

Example on this: You made a V12 GT car, but you had to change the V12 to a V8 or V6 through 80s to meet fuel regulations, that is a justified change. BUT, Also there are people that kept the V12 and that also is impressive. These will be elaborated more on in the rules section.

Decisions will be made on a point system. In a simplified terms, it’s a mix of judge’s opinion (yours truly) and mechanical sides of the cars, but also how you carried the design forward with time.

Round 1

Round 1: The Sixties!

1960-1969, the year of automotive bloom! Supercars, pony cars, cheap speed and fast feud filled cars! Coupe body style can blossom a lot of variety and freedom in designs, so you can try to design something you’re comfortable with, or try something new and challenging! This is a way to train yourself and get better!

Rules of the 60s

  • Rules don’t disqualify, they reduce points, if your decision has a good lore/justification, you wont lose any points, but it will make it harder for you to gain points, so keep that in mind.

  • Family names start with (ALL) - Forum name

  • Body model has to be 1958-1969 (2 years grace for bodies)

  • Technology used must be 1969 and older (engine and car)

  • Run on leaded fuel

  • have a coupe body, If you wish to use a specific body out of the year range, DM me to clear it out.

  • Have a story/idea explained (a paragraph is enough)

  • Targeted at a coupe market (Any that has the preferred body style of coupe, convertibles allowed too)

  • meet safety regulations. Minimum score of 20

60’s focus points

  • Design /15
  • Story/Idea /10
  • Interior design /3 (1 point for just having a dash and seats)

(In future rounds, we gonna have more areas to point)

First round over

Round 2

Round 2: The crisis of 80s…

The emission regulations was a big part of 80s, well mainly for the western nations. None the less, they had the biggest market! This was also the times were the cars had the most iconic design feature of their brands! So the challenge is mostly focused on the design, giving you more freedom in the technology advancements!

Rules of the 80s:

  • Engines must meet WES 7 emission standard.

  • Body Models are coupes, permitted from 1977- 1992 (3 years grace for body choices)

  • Rules don’t disqualify, they reduce points, if your decision has a good lore/justification, you wont lose any points, but it will make it harder for you to gain points, so keep that in mind.

  • Family names start with (ALL) - Forum name

  • Tech pool max on +7

  • Designs must carry the Identity of the car before them. To elaborate, it must be directed at the original car market it was made for, and have followed design ques from previous model. This does not mean a direct copy, but the two must have features that feel directly inspired by the previous model.

  • There is required for a lore/story/ad with the post.

80’s focus points

  • Design /15
  • Identity kept /10
  • Story/Idea /10 (+3 if it includes a challenge that was brought up during 70’s and 80’s, a curve ball if you will)
  • Interior design /3 (1 point for just having a dash and seats)

Round 2 open until 7th Feb 2025 12 pm MT

Get inspired!

Inspirations



Change log

Change-log

  • Added change-log

  • Added under rules

  • Rules don’t disqualify, they reduce points, if your decision has a good lore/justification, you wont lose any points, but it will make it harder for you to gain points, so keep that in mind.
  • Added under rules
  • If you wish to use a specific body out of the year range, DM me to clear it out.
  • Cleaned up the posts a bit!

  • Added round 2

  • Round 1 over

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Go nuts

Which type of leaded?
What safety regulations do you mean?
Are there any other rules around cost / engineering / realism / etc?

Any type of leaded fuel, it essentially is removing unleaded fuel types.

Meeting the saftey regulations of the 60s era, in automation terms it’s safety score of 20, I’ll add it to the rules just in case.

No cost, engineering and design will be judged on realism and quality of work that’s presented.

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I’m thinking of approaching this in one of two ways: either launch something early in the 60s and have it stay in production throughout the decade, or make something that debuts in 1969 (the latest cut-off date for eligibility).

Does that refer to variant/trim years, or to unlock years for specific items? That ought to be clarified further.

Do we have any techpool or price restrictions?

Also, there are more than a couple 2-door body styles that the game does not consider coupes. Are those bodies ok to use? Or do you want bodies that are specifically designated as coupes?

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I noticed this too. A body I picked was a “2 door sedan”. Isn’t that the definition of coupe?

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Goal is for it to be a 60s design, with 60s technology and to keep it fair for everyone1969 is the year you set for variant/trims of engine and the car.

Rules say that

So if automation doesn’t consider it a coupe, please don’t use it. It’s to keep it simple essentially, modded bodies are free game tho.

I’d assume that Al-Rilma is not allowed to be used for builds in this challenge, correct? I’m probably still gonna use the stable version but still just wondering since I didn’t see that anywhere in the rules.

I’d say not for round 1, we’ll see for future if it becomes more stable.

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Already made mine (Just trying the challenge for myself, not something that would be counted in the competition side of things)

CBC Carrier model 1967


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what if for the purposes of lore it doesn’t use leaded fuel?

Better convince me well with the lore story, other wise that may be a big point loss. Oh right i don’t disqualify, i deduct points for not following the rules.

If I understand, usually a car designed for unleaded fuel can still run leaded, as long as it doesn’t have a catalytic converter (which isn’t available in this period)

So imo tuning for unleaded fuel shouldn’t be a “violation,” since all you’re doing is tuning for a lower octane than is available to you; putting yourself at a minor disadvantage to no benefit.

I mean the market for it is going to be small, the car should match the reason it’s using it, and the design comes on top of the rule-play. Convince me well when you make the car (or make a special trim for it’s unleaded fuel engine.)

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In 1965 Marten Manufacturing wanted to get into the SCCA and Trans-Am events so the made a coupe version of their Maven GT saloon. It is the same car underneath featuring the 353 Fuelie V8. It was a solid street car helping fill the homologation numbers needed to go racing. The only short coming of the Maven was its open diff. it was a high tech budget option with its fuel injection and price tag of under 15,000.

The 1967 race version used a de-stroked version of the engine at 305 Cubic inches.







Marten Manufacturing cars for the people. by the people.

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I’m a little confused, what the rules are on techpool?

There aren’t any… yet. I am considering limiting myself to $30m-$40m in total (the sum of the engine and trim techpool) for my entry, though, in the interests of realism - but that budget would most likely have to be raised for the 80s and especially 00s entries.

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Since it’s a design focused challenge, I left it open to you, but if you wanna challenge yourself (not required) try 45mil for tech pools

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