I am really, really struggling to find an SUV body I can work with between 2015 and 2020. My design logic is hard-wired to the 80’s, and I may have to back out on this one. Either I can’t ‘see’ the design for how to make the body modern, or I just flat out hate the body because I can’t alter it in the way I need.
2020 Skunk Rover Royal Honcc
The worlds best SUV???
Yeah we have plenty of lights here, but that snorkel is definetly functional
YEAH TURBOCHARGED BABYYYY! Or is it…
You saw the unique headlamps, but how about the “S” shaped taillights… And this is very much a 4x4
Wooooahhh I’m blinded by the liiiights
This thing has an interior with a FLIPPING TELLY IN IT!!!
Look at this… Bask in all of its 170hp glory. 2JZ my ass
I have hardly seen a more ridiculously crazy donk than yours - a testament to your skillful interpretation of the rules.
@WangMaster_420 that Skunk Rover has a baleen whale’s mouth for a nose, and a giant number 52 in neon lights for a rear end - if that isn’t the definition of obnoxious ostentation, I don’t know what is.
So, I may have decided to take a second look over those SUV bodies, found something I can work with.
I’m building up the base model now so I can compare it with the ‘tastefully’ modified one. Here’s a quick teaser:
(Yes, the 9 speed automatic does have -10 quality, because it’s simulating a CVT. Hence, “Infinimatic” as the trim.)
So, I hate double posting (normally), but… I did finish my dose of insanity for this challenge.
Meet the Twin Hearts Racing tuned 2020 Sinistra Gargoyle!
(It’s the bright green one on the left, with the carbon-fiber hood.)
So, your SUV is just not exciting enough for you anymore? That V8 just isn’t quite enough? Think the Sinistra Infinimatic CVT transaxle is a soulless nightmare?
Never fear, because Twin Hearts Racing has you covered! Adding twin turbochargers to the Gargoyle’s V8, this Sinistra has a powerful sting waiting to be delivered to anyone foolish enough to mistake it as just another riced-out SUV. Even though the Gargoyle now sits on 26 inch wheels and has a body-kit straight out of a PS2-era video game, the V8 is amped up.
How much so? To the tune of 1,000+ horsepower. And yes, we’re just crazy enough to fire that through the front wheels… Using the original Infinimatic transaxle. Considering that the base model Gargoyle only had a touch over 350 horsepower, we think it’s a fair improvement.
(Base model shown for comparison. See how much more exciting the THR version is?)
Don’t listen to the rumors saying that the Infinimatic was already overloaded with the Gargoyle’s V8 in stock form. We haven’t broken ours yet!
Just realised I forgot to publish a response to this poll. As time has gone on, I have become less and less open to adding minivans and the logistics are just a little odd - but the poll does have an overwhelming response. So, with that in mind…
I will be adding a second category to the challenge - Modified Minivans.
These entries will be subject to the same rules as other entries, with the obvious change being that MPV or Van bodies are preferred rather than SUV or Ute. In addition, entries for Minivans will be open until 11:59 PM GMT on the 17th of October, to provide a sufficient duration to create additional entries. Please name all Minivan entries as “BDC2M - YourForumName”. Furthermore, submissions to both categories will be allowed - feel free to make an SUV and a minivan, so long as they are suitably distinct.
Given how late in the challenge it is, and the number of entries received, this feels like the most fair and balanced method to go about things. If I simply allowed new entries to be minivans, that disadvantages those who have already entered; if I only allowed prior entrants to resubmit, that disadvantages those who have not entered. I could simply disregard the poll and leave Minivans for BDC3, but that seems a little bit brash.
Ooooh, two builds for one challenge? I am in. Perhaps I’ll convert my other crazy idea into reality for the MPV
Twin Hearts Racing HQ, Offices - Recorded Conversation at the Loading Dock
“Okay, we’ve got a bit of a problem,” Kaylie said, looking over the vehicle that had just arrived.
“Oh?” Kayden asked.
“A customer bought this THR tuned 2019 Sinistra Thunder, the one we up-tuned the police-interceptor V10 for, and says they aren’t satisfied with the performance anymore. We’ve been asked to make it more powerful.”
“That’s not so bad. Couple of turbos and let Rukari work his magic on the tuning,” Kayden replied. Everyone there knew that Rukari was the real reason Twin Hearts Racing had that particular name, even though they’d made more than their share of crazy twin-engine cars to justify it otherwise.
“Yeah, and they also want us to paint it pink,” Kaylie said, pulling a rather wicked face.
“Wasn’t Rukari working on some sort of ultra-chrome paint earlier?” Kayden asked.
“Yes, I was,” Rukari replied, startling both Kaylie and Kayden. “I can make a batch or two of pink ultra-chrome.”
“That settles it, then,” Kaylie said. “You need to make this minivan more powerful.”
Visual and Auditory Modifications:
23 inch wheels, fitted with self-illuminating pink accents, painted with THR Platinum Pink UltraChrome paint.
32 speaker “Sonic Emitter” sound system with 8 amplifiers, including a custom enclosure replacing the third row bench.
Titanium exhaust tips of the “Double Barrel” variety.
Carbon Fiber hood and front chin splitter.
Carbon Fiber wrap on the inside of the primary headlight buckets.
Extra ventilation grille in the main grille to aid in engine cooling.
“Megawatt” Decal applied to rear window.
Higher quality CNC Milled titanium rods, forged steel pistons, billet steel milled crankshaft.
Engine maintains 10.0:1 compression.
TPC direct injection manifold replacing Twin Throttle DI manifold.
Twin Racing Turbochargers added, wastegate set for 35 PSI
Fuel Flow altered, high-flow fuel injectors added, Premium Unleaded required.
Exhaust restrictions reduced, high-flow catalytic converter remains installed.
Engine valve covers and intake manifold painted in Platinum Pink UltraChrome.
Output Horsepower: 1,355 HP
Twin Hearts Racing HQ, Offices - Recorded Conversation in the Break Room
“Twin Suns, he’s insane!” Kaylie yelled to her brother.
“What did Rukari do this time?” Kayden asked.
“That damn minivan he’s working on, it makes enough power to shame the humans’ Space Shuttle! It’s cranking out a megawatt of energy and that’s going through the front wheels! It’s insane. There’s no way anyone will want to drive that!”
“Our client says she wants more power. I give her most power I can,” Rukari responded with a malicious grin. “If she wants even more power, I have ideas.”
“Do not let him change anything else on that van,” Kaylie said, pointing to Kayden.
“Why me?” Kayden asked.
“Because you’re the only one strong enough to hold him back.”
“Not for long,” Kayden grumbled. “He knows how to fight.”
“I am done with van anyway,” Rukari replied, chuckling. “You two do the interior, I take my break now.”
Please note that the challenge closes in a little over 16 hours. If you have an entry, you should probably submit it.
(Edit: The SUV part, that is. Still plenty of time for Minivans)
What do you do when you’re a hippie who needs a truck but also wants to save the environment? You turn it into a hypermiler of course! This bad boy weighs over 2.2 metric tons, makes over 300 hp from its (now eco-tuned) 3.2L twin turbo V6, and with the a lot of care and expense put into custom bodywork and low-drag modifications it returns 7.3L/100 km. The truck hasn’t been compromised entirely as the bed is still accessible and it can still haul over 1700 kg and tow over 2800 kg. Of course a hippie truck needs to look the part and why not make it into a cute blushing hippie kittie covered in flowers?
The interior is mostly stock but has monitors for the cameras that replaced the side mirrors, and of course the steering wheel and dashboard are lined with cleansing crystals for only the best of vibes while driving around.
The challenge is officially Closed to new SUV entries. Minivan entries will be closing in seven days; reviews for SUVs will not be released until Minivan entries close.
Aaaaand the challenge is now officially closed. Reviews will come soon.
Cohesiveness was a major judging criterion, having a theme. The only “theme” of this car is excess - and not in a good way. This car slaps a litany of ideas onto one body - and none of them make sense together. The stickers on the doors, and the clearly false badges look like parts purchased at a random auto shop and slapped on. The useless side exhausts (mounted to the doors rather than the body) give the same effect, as does the useless air dam and the light bars. So then why does it have a clearly-custom, extremely bespoke front and rear bumper and light assembly? Why does it have a wing which no auto store would carry, or a race-oriented fuel cap? The design also lacks some of the finer attention to detail which sets apart more successful entries. The wheels stick out beyond the mudflaps, the design lacks side indicators, and so on. The design does not even have that much making it ugly, besides the excess of stupidity. It is a collection of ugly modifications, not an ugly car - and all of those modifications are cliche or unrealistic.
Finally, the engineering. Where to start? The needless -12 quality on the exhaust? The odd-sized tyres, with offsets greater than the tyre width? The fact that it has 50% Utility brake fade? The 5-speed slushbox? Outdated hydraulic power steering and no ESC on a modern car? None of this is sensible, or sensibly bad.
To paraphrase a passage from Billy Madison… What you’ve submitted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever seen. At no point in your cliche, incoherent car were you even close to anything that could be considered a good entry. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may Pipegod have mercy on your soul.
This thing doesn’t spool until 5300 RPM. Once it gets there, the turbo puts out an impressive 2 bar of overpressure… for all of 1000 RPM, until it falls off and loses its boost. I get that it’s supposed to be mated to a CVT, but this is still ridiculous.
Moving outside the car, it’s very Need For Speed Underground. The lights are a touch more modern, but it certainly fits the vibe. All the design beats - from the massive exhausts and roof-mounted wing to the custom bumper with splitter and the carbon hood - look like they could have come straight from the game. It’s very successful at doing this, but it doesn’t seem too… original, I suppose? It’s not the most daring and inventive car, in my opinion, but it’s well-executed. 71 points.
This car really fits the design brief pretty well. Under all these mods, there’s a competent, almost pedestrian SUV. What’s not to like? Well… Under all these mods, there’s a competent, almost pedestrian SUV. Strip away the wheels, the paint and the top half, and you end up with a plain, realistic SUV. And that realistic SUV isn’t massively ugly, or unique. 73 points.
AMERICA, F*** YEAH!
Nothing - and I mean nothing is subtle about this car. The wheels stick out halfway from the body, the stickers are tacky and stupid, and the car has some fairly common mods - a bigger, armoured bumper; a giant exhaust; a snorkel; and a light bar. The 4x4 sticker on an All-Wheel-Drive is a nice stupid touch as well. What’s not to hate? Well, to put it simply… The mods are somewhat simple and common. I am sure that there are countless other cars, much like this one. Hell, most of the mods can be done with either a quick trip to the parts store or a welder and some metal. It hurts in uniqueness - which is a shame, as it does so well elsewhere.
The interior is somewhat confusing - I assume it was crunched by the deadline? The windows are set to effectively zero transparency, and the rear is completely unfinished (despite containing +3 seats)… But there is a detailed front and middle, complete with entertainment screens and door-mounted pistols? Speaking of the interior, why does it use -10 quality, with premium design but only standard entertainment? In true American fashion, the car has woefully insufficient brakes, and the engine is dumping fuel and running far too rich. The car also lacks any sort of emissions equipment or mufflers, because 'MURICA. Of course, the engine is a very American… DOHC V6? Yep, this was modified by jarheaded, slack-jawed idiots. 73 points.
What? I can’t just do a one-sentence review? Fine.
Let’s start with the engineering, shall we? The engineering here is just about perfect. Just about every choice has been taken in search of a single goal - efficiency. Low-friction pistons, weak cams, an economic turbo… Add in the very high quality undertray and cooling flaps, and this thing gets a rather insane mileage despite being a two ton truck.
Looking outside the car, and two things become very obvious. First of all, this car earns its +6 aero. I can confidently say that I have never seen a car which displays a greater commitment to lowering drag. Second of all, the car has also been designed by exactly the type of person to focus on efficiency above all else. It certainly takes the “theme” priority and runs with it. The attention to detail is exemplary, managing to keep the tray usable and managing to keep the car legal. It is truly a masterpiece. 83 points.
- Less time between rounds (BDC3 probably launches in November?)
- More time between rounds (BDC3 probably launches next year)
- I don’t particularly feel interested in future rounds
I thought it was trim/variant year that needed to be in the range. Oops. Serves me right for the lore-based V10 in the Thunder.
As for the incredibly-late spooling turbos, that was part of the bad engineering: Maximum power… On paper. If I’d been trying to make them both proper kilo-horse cars, I’d have gone at it with a bit more sensibility, and likely a lot less turbo.
The Thunder was repurposed from a different challenge I participated in as a sort of last-minute minivan entry.
As for the Gargoyle, I’ll take last place for the scored cars and be happy with it. SUVs are way out of my comfort zone for designing, let alone when I’m trying to push the boundaries of ‘normal.’ And yes, I did have to break out the PS2 and play a couple hours of Underground 2 to get a visual mindset going.
Congrats to the winner! Nailed the theme and fit the brief to a tee. Well done
Haha, yep, that was the point! I guess we had a different take on this. For me in this case the “bad” part of engineering was exactly that nothing was done to the engineering from the stock boring and pedestrian SUV. It was all just an aesthetic veneer. The ultimate poser.
Ah yes, this is a case of “don’t make-believe, don’t imply things that aren’t in the game”. This was supposed to be a supercharged engine (with the giant stack as modelled), not turbocharged. But alas, we don’t have superchargers in the game (yet). So yea, I probably should’ve stuck to what is actually available in the game in terms of engineering.
In any case, thank you for another fun round! I really enjoyed it and am looking forward to what you cook up for the next one!
@AMuteCrypt , great job on the turnaround! That was some of the most timely judging I’ve ever seen, especially considering the detail the reviews went into. So timely, in fact, I didn’t even have time to post my ads! I might still post them this afternoon, like I was going to.
As for the year on the minivan, like Madrias, I figured as long as the trims were 2020, I was fine- unfortunately, I should have double checked the rules on that one.
Either way, I really enjoyed the challenge- it was really interesting to actually compete in one of these!
Yeah, this was a fun challenge, and I’m looking forward to another one. Good to know I was able to redeem myself with a “too good looking” car last time by building some eye cancer on wheels.
As for the quiz, keeping this as a sporadic challenge whenever you have the time to run it seems best. If you’re free to do it next month then great, and if it’s 6 months before you can do another one after that then alright for that too.
After thinking on this for a little over a day, I wonder if it’s really true that modded was less popular. Specifically, I’m wondering if it was the combination of SUV and 2015+ that hindered participation. Not that I didn’t have fun designing something to participate with, but there’s no ‘new’ bodies past 2011. That, and SUVs seem to be very few and far between whenever someone looks at lore threads.
I’m not saying it was a bad challenge at all (far from it, actually), more that some people may have had more difficulty designing for it.
If the next one ends up being 1970’s to 1990’s off roaders, I’ve already got a really stupid idea ready. Though I might have to change out the engine that’s in it for something more modern.