Car Reviewing

When I get given design Ideas, like this, and it’s on a great subject, cars, designs like so are created.


Also, Sorry KillaGT for using your car. I just needed an old looking one to design this around.

Could I help design things like this for the real reviews, I really like doing this kind of stuff!

If cheeseman would actually finish his reviews, I can make these. Im already assigned in doing so… but since this is actually halted at this point, I have no material to work with

Well, if you want me to help with any designs, I’ll be happy to do so!

I’ll PM you when I nee dyour help :smiley: Thanks!

Nice job Boyercam, definitely suits a classic car mag.
I have my august one almost finished (complete with 3 reviews) but my notebook screen backlight died so I cant post it till it comes back from repair - needs to be sent to Germany :frowning:

Simply
“Thats not good” - Jeremy Clarkson

Anyhow Utopia I was going to ask you, What software and technique do you use to overlay the car onto the background. All the time when I do it, I get very jagged outlines, not smooth ones. If you want to PM me that so we don’t fill this topic with Photo Editing Techniques :wink:

Hello there, here is something that will most likely interest you.

Originally posted on TheTom’s AMW thread, I have some good news and some bad news about car reviewing. Good news is I am probably going to restart them again very soon. Bad news is, the cars on the waiting list are lost and even if I do find them I have no idea whether they will be compatible with the new public beta. Sorry!

So here is the plan. Anybody can send in a review now, however I will recommend that you wait for the public release that will be coming out in a matter of days just as a precautionary measure. Those who correctly send in their car for reviewing (rules!) will go on the waiting list as usual, however those people who sent in cars for reviewing previously will get priority, which will also depend on how far up the old list that person was. A person towards the top of the list will have priority over somebody further down the list and anybody new will sit under them.

Don’t expect if you send in your review tonight to see it done tomorrow. I do not know if Pleb or UltimateBMWfan will be available tomorrow to start, however my guess would be Pleb is likely and UltimateBMWfan unlikely. Tomorrow I will out for most of the day so I will be pretty much unavailable.

Also bear in mind that beta testing has its priority over car reviewing and so do many other things in life.

Final changes here and there on the thread will be dealt with in the morning such as the list of accepted car reviews.

I think that pretty much covers everything. Send in those cars!

It could be very intresting to read reviews of the different categories winners cars of the CTC. No?

Id be happy to make any form of magazine covers or review layouts for this, if it doesnt take 2 months to get 1 review. So i hope a bit more dedication, or maybe I can help Der Bayer in making nice reviews or covers for winning cars in the CTC challenge.

Hey guys,

I am just clarifying that I will have plenty of time for writing reviews for your cars. I currently have a lot of time on my hands which I am dividing between beta testing, my YouTube channel, and soon, writing reviews. But again, as Cheeseman said, don’t expect instant service, as other things still hold priority over the reviews, but I will try to get any pending reviews done as soon as possible.

Cheers!

I am pretty sure that reviews will not be taking 2 months this time, and hopefully it has a similar pace as what it originally had. I will start work on reviews tomorrow if I receive any by then. It appears that me and Pleb can work pretty much full steam ahead on them.

As for the CTC challenge, that will be a heck of a lot of reviews! I can only imagine how many cars there will be that have won this, that and the other in whatever category they have fallen under, so to get them all reviewed would take a very long time. Something else might have to be done instead, but I have no idea what.

I am going to make a couple of changes here and there on the thread and a couple of small rules will be added.

Send in them entries, and remember those on the list on the first post of page 3 (which will be moved to the first post on page 1 ASAP) do have priority! Thanks!

I obviously can’t recreate the Nightfury in the current version due to aero limitations, so I won’t be resubmitting the model for the time being!

— IMPORTANT —

The new full public version will be coming out either tomorrow or Sunday (according to the public beta thread) which will bring some new things, one of which, as mentioned by Killrob in the thread, will be announced on YouTube later today. This factor will affect the reviews. Therefore I have decided to hold the review back until the public version is out, because it may lead to unfair advantages. This will probably require that you resubmit your car.

Apologies for any inconvenience caused.

[quote=“Cheeseman”]— IMPORTANT —

The new full public version will be coming out either tomorrow or Sunday (according to the public beta thread) which will bring some new things, one of which, as mentioned by Killrob in the thread, will be announced on YouTube later today. This factor will affect the reviews. Therefore I have decided to hold the review back until the public version is out, because it may lead to unfair advantages. This will probably require that you resubmit your car.

Apologies for any inconvenience caused.[/quote]

“The new thing” will not be coming in this big update but the next :slight_smile: this is about a pretty big change… so no worries about the current stats.

Ah, ok. Will there be any future compatability issues, or can’t anything be said about that yet because you just don’t know?

The others that have submitted entries don’t mind anyway, especially considering that one was made with B1410 which doesn’t work with B1413 so I will keep the wait until the non-beta version comes out.

If you mean “the Steam release” with “future”, then maybe yes! For the current release there should be no problems… hopefully. :wink:

No, not the Steam one. I expect changes and computability issues then.

Well if that is the case I can get to work on reviews as of tomorrow (even if that is when the public non-beta bug-free-ish release is :stuck_out_tongue:)

[size=150]1998 BARTRON CROSBY[/size]
This small MPV is the result that comes from a collaboration between The Netherlands and the Isle of Man. Set to rival the Renault Scenic, they say they work especially hard on ride comfort, fuel economy and safety. Is this true, and it is up to scratch everywhere else? Time to find out

Performance - http://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.png
The Bartron Crosby comes with a 1.5-litre engine that produces a rather modest 101 bhp and 99 ft-lb of torque. With a 1200 kg kerb weight, that does mean that performance won’t be anything special and the figures show this. With a 0-62 mph time of 11.7 seconds and a top speed of 111 mph, racing people at the lights is certainly something that you won’t be doing. It is however a rather solid performer and is very good at just getting you and inevitably your passengers from A to B. When cruising the car settles down rather nicely and has more than enough power for getting up hills and making the odd overtaking maneuver, perhaps on the occasion requiring a downshift. Performance throughout the rev range, even low down, is strong enough thanks to a reasonably flat torque curve. One of the biggest issues is the gearing, which is too short.

Ride Comfort - http://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.png
As expected from a car that is supposed to transport people and their luggage everywhere, the car has a rather soft suspension setup. No matter what the speed and no matter what the road surface, the car does an exceptional job at soaking up the bumps and also making sure the car doesn’t wallow and bounce all over the place when going over a large bump. The ride puts some luxury cars to shame. Usually as a “side effect” of having soft suspension is a lot of body roll, but although there is the sort of body roll you expect from a tall car, it isn’t anything that is going to make people feel queasy, and certainly does not ruin the fact that the car does an excellent job of ironing out imperfections.

Handling - http://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.png
Normally with soft suspension setups you get rather mediocre, if not poor, handling. The Bartron Crosby, however, manages to do pretty well for a car of this category. The tyres have more than enough grip and the car can be pushed pretty hard until it reaches the limit, and even when the tyres can’t take any more it is not dangerous and could even be considered forgiving. It does not, however, feel even in the slightest sporty: composed, but bland. The body roll is present and reasonably controlled, so although it does make driving on winding roads a bit weird it isn’t an issue as such. The lack of assists such as traction control and stability control do mean that from a driving perspective it makes the rather vanilla driving experience a bit more interesting, but not enough to give even a sporty touch.

Refinement - http://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.png
First thing that must be said is that the gearing needs a serious re-think. Driving along at 70-80 mph in the 4000-4500 rpm region is just not acceptable. This would not be a 4 star section if it wasn’t for the great sound insulation and the fact that the engine is reasonably quiet. At high speeds, all you can hear is a slight high-pitched rumble from the high-revving 4 cylinder engine and that is it. The wind noise and tyre noise is almost completely non-existent, something that is not really expected in a car of this category and it does help in making the car feel more upmarket that what it is.

Equipment - http://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.png
Another solid performance by the Bartron Crosby. The car comes with a rather surprising level of equipment, with stuff that you expect to see in much more expensive vehicles coming as standard. Obviously there is nothing fancy coming as standard, but you may find some really cool stuff in the options list, but pick wisely as the car could get a bit too pricey. Safety tech is really rather good, however the lack of certain driver assists does let the side down somewhat.

Quality - http://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.png
Yet another good score by Bartron. The interior of the car has some very nice, well thought out touches that make the interior just that little bit more special than many of its rivals. There are some nice soft-touch and rather plush looking and feeling plastics here and there and although lower down in the less visible areas of the interior you get the typical cheaper feeling, rather scratchy plastics, they are not too bad. Everything feels like it has been put together nice and solidly and everything makes the right sounds - no tinny sounds from metal components and no horrible plasticy sounds from, you guessed it, plastic components.

Reliability - http://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.png
Once more we have another area in which the Bartron Crosby performs rather well indeed. The engine is expected to be rather solid and although there are rather a few electronic goodies that could go wrong, it all seems that everything should be fine, partially down to the quality of the interior and also down to the fact that nowadays (late 90s) electrical components are getting more and more reliable.

Running Costs - http://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.png
This must be the area where Bartron concentrated the hardest. Rivals are expected to achieve mid-30s (UK MPG) on the combined cycle, yet thanks to Bartron’s hard work and the fact that you can clearly tell that this is the area where they have concentrated the hardest, this car somehow manages a whopping 44.7 mpg. That is quite some figure, especially when compared to rivals. Insurance isn’t expected to be mega-cheap due to the more premium feel of the interior, but service costs are reasonable, which makes up for it.

Safety - http://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.png
Possibly the worst of the areas that were listed by Bartron as areas they concentrated on the most, it still manages to score well again. In the event of a crash, the rather rigid structure and numerous airbags should help to keep you safe in even higher speed collisions. The lack of certain safety assists is a bit of a downer, but other than that a solid job.

OVERALL - http://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/firmLlM.png
For: Great ride comfort, high quality interior, exceptional fuel economy
Against: Rather mediocre performance… not much else.

Bartron is glad to announce that they are very satisfied with a review like this. The reviewer pretty much explained exactly what Bartron stands for and tries to put in all their designs. Decent cars, affordable, and getting you safe from A to B without the feeling of driving a horse and carriage. Yes, Bartron is the way to go!

Is this the star? i.imgur.com/firmLlM.png