Cool Wall Three: Not Cool (Complete!)

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Hmm, I know I tagged mine just before submitting after a final check over the rules and an “oh shit” moment. I’m travelling still and don’t have access to the game till late next week, so I’m just making a mental note for myself to check after my return home if it’s A) human error and I submitted the wrong export (most likely TBH) or B) I submitted the correct file and should submit a bug report that tags don’t always save/import properly.

Good start to the judging, looking forward to the rest already! :slight_smile:

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Damn, forgot the tagging, I had it in my head until last minute…oh well.

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I said I wasn’t sure, good to see that there are examples. The -2 does more heavily reflect usability and will remain as it is. Incidentally, this kind of discussion is why I placed these two elements, the most debatable one, first.

A note on judging

I realised I forgot to detail how judging on stats will actually work. The system follows the lead of YACC, but with one key tweak. The worst car of the lot gets the full negative points (5, 10 or 15 depending on stat). The best car gets the full positive points. The median car gets zero points. For all other cars, it's based on how close it is to the maximum, median and minimum. Example: There are 7 cars (A, B, C, D, E, F and G), with scores of 0, 1, 3, 5, 6, 7 and 15. The minimum, A, gets -5 points. The median, D, gets 0. The maximum, G, gets 5. Car B is 80% of the way from the median to the minimum, so it gets 80% of the negative points (-4). Car C is 40% of the way, so it gets 40% of the negative points (-2). Car E is 10% of the way to the maximum, so it gets 10% of the positive points (0.5). Car F is 20% of the way to the maximum, so it gets 20% of the positive points (1).

Please note that the totals provided in each round are rounded to one place, but the actual values in my spreadsheet are not. Hence, it’s possible for things to be out by a little here and there; the scoring roundup in each post will always be fully accurate.

The side effect of this method is that it means many cars will have negative scores. This does not mean your car sucks. Every car in this round is a wonderful car. It’s just not the right car for this client.

Judging Part Three: Range Anxiety

Worst Score:

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Bazard Rikket (234.3 km) - The Rikket has the smallest tank of any car, by a considerable margin. Even a good-for-1947 fuel economy can’t save it here. That tank ends up placing it behind the thirsty Capital K6 Custom and Wells LC (5.1 and 5.2 km/L respectively).

Middle of the pack:

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IP Freeway Star (418.7 km) - The Freeway Star is the third thirstiest car, just barely beating out the Waldersee with 7.9 km/L to the Markgraff’s 8.1. It’s also the heaviest, and one of the highest footprints (behind the Waldersee and the Wells). This gives it the second largest tank (behind, you guessed it, the Waldersee).

The Best:

Mons Amis (718.8 km) - It’s a modern, fuel efficient car. The only more efficient car is the Dongsun, which is small enough to fall back. In general, this category benefitted the more modern, efficient cars. Shocking, I know.

Scores For Range
  • Bazard Rikkett by @Edsel : -5 Points (234.3 km)
  • Capital k6 Custom by @Prium : -4.8 Points (241.8 km)
  • Wells LC by @DuceTheTruth100 : -4.3 Points (259.3 km)
  • Rossel F12 by @Fayeding_Spray : -4.1 Points (266.2 km)
  • Zerve Kaveat by @Restomod : -1.8 Points (354.1 km)
  • GSI Banlieue by @oppositelock : -1.6 Points (359.2 km)
  • Courageux Mille by @mart1n2005 : -1.1 Points (379.8 km)
  • Morabia Jestrab by @Maverick74 : -0.8 Points (389.6 km)
  • IP Freeway Star by @Knugcab : 0 Points (418.7 km)
  • Waldersee Markgraff by @Texaslav : 0.3 Points (439.7 km)
  • Durendal LeGrand by @GassTiresandOil : 0.6 Points (453.3 km)
  • Nikishi Classic by @BannedByAndroid : 1.6 Points (512.6 km)
  • Fuki Ikigai by @Caligari : 1.9 Points (530.6 km)
  • Halvson Harrier by @lotto77 : 3.0 Points (598.4 km)
  • Mara Kanyon by @AndiD : 3.2 Points (608.0 km)
  • Dongsun SDC by @Hilbert : 4.4 Points (685.3 km)
  • Mons Amis by @cake_ape : 5 Points (718.8 km)
Scores So Far
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Yeah I don’t believe the simca 1000 or Renault 8 had any anti roll bars either, so while it would have improved “stats” it would have only been more realistic for a more sporty model. I’ll probably do an update with low levels of sway bars a couple of years later.
In this version of automation the car is pretty hard to not have bad oversteer though. But it is an early 60’s rear engined car so it is what it is, the only thing by accident is the bottoming out stat as I must have missed that

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I’m satisfied with that. Just wanted to clear up that no alien space butterflies were involved.

Also big ass tank go brrrrr

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Judging Part Four: Another Modern Benefit...

First, a couple of notes on emissions. First of all, all leaded cars were reviewed with devmeth to simulate unleaded fuel. Second of all... Yeah, this round is hugely skewed modern too. Rip. Just gonna do it quickly as there's not much of interest.

Worst Score:

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Rossel F12 (8102) - Yeah, this is not a surprise. A classic car with pushrods and carbs with poor emissions, colour me shocked. I believe the Bazard - the only older car - gets better emissions due to having far lower power.

Middle of the pack:

Zerve Kaveat (838) - Middle age, middle emissions. Moving on.

The best:

The newest car, and the lowest emissions. Yes, there are engineering choices at play, but increasing year has the largest impact.

Scores For Emissions
Scores So Far
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Shouldn’t it be “score for emissions”, not “score for range”?

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Oops

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You are powering through these reviews! :smiley:

Also, my brand is Fuji, though Fuki sounds pretty good too, haha. Maybe even better. :stuck_out_tongue:

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As far as the pace of judging goes - all I need to do is write a little bit on the notable cars, then copy and reformat the scoring overviews. The spreadsheet was prepped and filled a few days before entries closed.

Judging Part Five: Reliant Robins

Now, two important notes. First of all, I ended up deciding to just deduct 5% reliability (multiplicative with wear) for every 10 points (or part thereof) of ET above 100. Luckily, nobody went above 50 Prestige. I also squared the wear before applying it [so reliability is base*(1-wear^2)*(1-penalties)]

Worst Score:

Halvson Harrier (41.5 Points) - This one has been through the wars, and it shows in the stats. It honestly has a pretty good reliability score… and it’s held back by its high wear, and a high engine ET. It’s the kind of car that’s been through a lot, and is hard to maintain. Ouch.

Dishonourable mention:

Fuji Ikigai (48.7 Points). The Fuji Ikigai is the second most reliable car by base stats by only 0.4 points. It has less wear than the top entries… And it has an incredibly complex engine, with +3 family quality and 5-valve DOHC in a boxer 4. That takes it to fourth worst.

Middle Of The Pack:

Durendal Legrand (57.3 Points) - Middling wear, middling base, a smidge high ET combines for middling final stats.

The best:

IP Freeway Star (64.6 Points) - Only two cars are more reliable in base stat - the Mara Kanyon and the Fuji Ikigai. The Fuji has already be mentioned, and the Mara has been taken care of just that little bit worse. There are other cars where the owners took better care of them, but those cars are worse in terms of reliability to start out.

Scores For Reliability
Scores So Far
  • Capital k6 Custom by @Prium : -9.7 Points (Down 3 places)
  • Courageux Mille by @mart1n2005 : -7.8 Points (Up 1 place)
  • Rossel F12 by @Fayeding_Spray : -7.2 Points
  • Bazard Rikkett by @Edsel : -4.4 Points (Up 2 places)
  • Waldersee Markgraff by @Texaslav : -2.5 Points (Down 2 places)
  • Halvson Harrier by @lotto77 : 0.2 Points (Down 6 places)
  • Wells LC by @DuceTheTruth100 : 2.3 Points (Up 2 places)
  • Fuji Ikigai by @Caligari : 6.4 Points (Down 6 places)
  • Zerve Kaveat by @Restomod : 6.4 Points (Up 1 place, leads by 0.0704)
  • Nikishi Classic by @BannedByAndroid : 6.5 Points (Down 3 places)
  • GSI Banlieue by @oppositelock : 7.4 Points (Up 5 places)
  • Dongsun SDC by @Hilbert : 7.8 Points (Down 3 places)
  • Durendal LeGrand by @GassTiresandOil : 8.8 Points (Down 2 places)
  • Morabia Jestrab by @Maverick74 : 9.4 Points (Up 5 places)
  • Mons Amis by @cake_ape : 10.4 Points (Down 2 places)
  • IP Freeway Star by @Knugcab : 16.0 Points (Up 6 places!)
  • Mara Kanyon by @AndiD : 21.1 Points (Up 1 place)

Talk about a big shakeup!

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Fs in the chat for me, lads.

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It’s just a portion of the scores, you still got chance.

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Whoops, I didn’t expect that, nice surprise!

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Judging Part Six: Practical Concerns

Worst Score:

Halvson Harrier (23.5) - The Harrier is hurt by the way the game calculates practicality. It has 2 doors and 2 seats. The game doesn’t care if it’s a supercar or a ute, that hurts your practicality. Oof.

Middle Of The Pack:


Dongsun SDC, Nishiki Classic (Jeez, I transcribed a lot of these wrong) (54.7 Points) - A two-way tie, right at the median! Wow! It’s legitimately impressive to have this happen.

The Best:

Shocker, right? Besides the humour of the same top and bottom 2 rounds in a row, this car is what you would expect to see doing well here. The Harrier did poorly due to few seats and few doors. This has 5 doors and 6 seats. Do the maths.

Scores For Practicality
Scores So Far
  • Bazard Rikkett by @Edsel : -15.2 Points (Down 3 places)
  • Halvson Harrier by @lotto77 : -14.8 Points (Down 4 places. Massive F in the chat)
  • Rossel F12 by @Fayeding_Spray : -13.5 Points
  • Courageux Mille by @mart1n2005 : -10.6 Points (Up 2 places)
  • Capital k6 Custom by @Prium : -9.1 Points (Up 4 places)
  • Waldersee Markgraff by @Texaslav : -6.7 Points (Up 1 place)
  • Wells LC by @DuceTheTruth100 : -0.6 Points
  • Nishiki Classic by @BannedByAndroid : 6.5 Points (Down 2 places)
  • Dongsun SDC by @Hilbert : 7.8 Points (Down 3 places)
  • Zerve Kaveat by @Restomod : 11.6 Points (Up 1 place)
  • Durendal LeGrand by @GassTiresandOil : 14.2 Points (Down 2 places)
  • Morabia Jestrab by @Maverick74 : 14.8 Points (Down 2 places)
  • GSI Banlieue by @oppositelock : 15.4 Points (Up 2 places)
  • Mara Kanyon by @AndiD : 16.1 Points (Down 3 places)
  • Fuji Ikigai by @Caligari : 17.2 Points (Up 7 places!)
  • Mons Amis by @cake_ape : 22.0 Points (Up 1 place)
  • IP Freeway Star by @Knugcab : 30.1 Points (Up 1 place)
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I’m going to be upset if I don’t lose now

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Daym. O.o

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Hipsterdom score please come to rescue my car lmao

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Oh, and… Each one of these does take a non-zero amount of effort to write, I have noticed a couple of issues with my data on certain stats (luckily not reviewed yet) and I have a couple of thoughts on the end post, so… remainder of judging will come tomorrow.

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Judging Part 7: Prestige Worldwide

Worst Score:

Bazard Rikkett (6.7 Points) - That’s not a typo, the Bazard has single-digit prestige. A 1.3L i3 is a modern engine config for a reason - you need modern forced induction to get a usable amount of power from it. This i3 puts out a meager 36.4 hp. Then we get the interior, which is literally the cheapest it gets - basic and no entertainment. There is nothing to show off. It should be noted that I very briefly considered slapping on a penalty for the low power, but:

  • It didn’t throw a warning for underpowered engine, because this thing is so dang light. It uses the smallest body currently in the game, and even has the weight slider tuned for a little less weight.
  • It’s an era-accurate amount of power.
  • It still gets to 100 km/h. Just not uphill.

Middle Of The Pack:

Dongsun SDC (24.2 Points) - Being a convertible and having a premium CD player will boost prestige. Having a sensible, refrained i4… less so. It certainly looks like middling prestige.

The Best:

Waldersee Markgraff (41.7 Points) - Plenty of people went with a V6, but the Waldersee has the biggest, and almost the most powerful. Where the Waldersee wins, however, is putting the lux in luxobarge. It’s the biggest of the lot, the heaviest of the lot, and It somehow manages to squeeze a luxury interior into this price range. It’s the ultimate showoff.

Scores For Prestige
Scores So Far
  • Bazard Rikkett by @Edsel : -30.2 Points
  • Rossel F12 by @Fayeding_Spray : -23.1 Points (Down 1 place)
  • Courageux Mille by @mart1n2005 : -16.2 Points (Down 1 place)
  • Halvson Harrier by @lotto77 : -7.7 Points (Up 2 places)
  • Capital k6 Custom by @Prium : -6.4 Points
  • Dongsun SDC by @Hilbert : 7.8 Points (Down 3 places)
  • Waldersee Markgraff by @Texaslav : 8.3 Points (Up 1 place)
  • Zerve Kaveat by @Restomod : 8.5 Points (Down 2 places)
  • Morabia Jestrab by @Maverick74 : 8.8 Points (Down 3 places)
  • GSI Banlieue by @oppositelock : 9.3 Points (Down 3 places)
  • Wells LC by @DuceTheTruth100 : 12.9 Points (Up 4 places)
  • Mara Kanyon by @AndiD : 14.7 Points (Down 2 places)
  • Nishiki Classic by @BannedByAndroid : 14.9 Points (Up 5 places)
  • Fuji Ikigai by @Caligari : 15.2 Points (Down 1 place)
  • Durendal LeGrand by @GassTiresandOil : 24.1 Points (Up 4 places)
  • Mons Amis by @cake_ape : 26.5 Points
  • IP Freeway Star by @Knugcab : 33.7 Points
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