CSC57: The Long Road to Hell and Back (completed)

I’ve heard an opinion from someone who’s in favor of my idea, and one from someone who’s against it. With that in mind, I’ll make a poll: Should I open this CSC up to multiple body choices (in which case I’ll allow free morph adjustment) or not?

  • Yes
  • No

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The poll above will close no later than the same time this challenge opens to entries. However, if a particular option is sufficiently favored before then (around 75% or so), I will go with that one and disregard the other.

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Might as well post my opinion in the thread.

So I think there are some good and bad things about the way that CSC is currently set up, and I’ll just bullet point my opinions on them.

The good:

  • I actually quite like the decision to limit body choice, and though the body is a bit old and janky, as a whole the body choice is good. Especially as it is now, this round is the only time that body choice has been limited in this way, and I think opening it up would be a mistake and take away from the originality and interest that this limitation can provide. Though, I also believe that this kind of limitation should remain novel for this challenge and not become a regular thing - If you want this kind of limitation, ARM is good for that.
  • I really like the choice to limit engineering - CSC is primarily a design challenge, and it makes sense to me for design to be the primary, or even only goal.

The bad:

  • Though limiting body choice as it is is a good and original idea for CSC, I do not believe that limiting morphs as thoroughly and completely as it is is a good idea. I can see the argument for limiting a few morphs or putting a limit on morphs that change the shape of the body as a whole, however many of the morphs that are currently locked end up being part of fixture heavy areas such as the front and rear bumpers. These morph limits end up being circumvented anyway by body morphing and fixtures, and end up adding unnecessary jank that could be removed by simply removing the morph limit.

TL;DR:

  • Body choice being limited as it is currently is a new and novel idea for CSC, and to open it up would make the round as a whole less interesting, however limiting body choice like this for future rounds may end up grating or annoying - As an exception to the rule, I think this is a good change.
  • Morphs being limited as they are currently may be new and novel, however it directly detracts from possible designs and further limits possibilities on the (admittedly) already quite limiting body. I think these limits should be looked at and de-regulated or even removed entirely.
  • If you agree with me, you should vote No on the above poll, to preserve the originality present in the round as-is.

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A little late, but in the time since I created my poll, more users have voted for opening this CSC up to multiple body sets (with mostly free morphing zones) and wheelbases, proving that in general, my decision not to allow free choice of body set and free adjustment of morphing zones was a mistake for a CSC, and in retrospect was something left for an ARM. To that end, I am allowing free choice of bodies and morphing adjustments under the following conditions:

  • Front engined, RWD only
  • Body unlock year no earlier than 1983 and no later than 1995
  • Must be a 2-door coupe (not a convertible) with maximum seating capacity of +2 in the rearmost row (in front-engined configuration) and capable of accommodating the engine provided in the test mule in longitudinal orientation
  • Wheelbase must be between 2.5m and 2.7m inclusive (after rounding up)
  • No legacy bodies (I don’t have the appropriate mod downloaded or installed)

Submissions are open as of 2 hours ago - I will update the OP accordingly.

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1995 SVM Hellblazer



The brand-new SVM Hellblazer is the ultimate GT muscle car, with a 350 ci V8 with 350 hp powering the rear wheels through a 6-speed manual gearbox – and a mechanical LSD.

With a full suite of driving assists, it’s also the most driveable Hellblazer to date, ensuring you and your passengers have fun without spinning into a ditch – unless, of course, you should desire to switch them off and enjoy all of its tire-burning power.

It is also the safest in its class, with high-safety crumple zones, dual airbags and automatic seatbelts.

A premium interior fully trimmed in Alcantara, as well as a high-fidelity audio system with CD playback, ensure your fun times are also comfortable.



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Specs
  • 350 ci V8
  • 350 hp
  • 466 Nm
  • 1396.6 kg
  • 0-100 in 4.7 seconds
  • 308 km/h top speed
  • Full aluminium architecture
  • 6 speed manual gearbox
  • RWD
  • Geared LSD
  • Premium Alcantara interior with 2+2 seating
  • Front sports bucket seats
  • Premium sound system with Compact Disc playback
  • Electronic stability control
  • Variable power steering
  • Semi-active dampers
  • Advanced safety suite with dual airbags and automatic seatbelts
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1995 SVM Hellblazer

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1995 Hellblazer by Spander

At Spander, we pride ourselves on making the most distinctive designs.
This concept has a strong and powerful stance, with a futuristic aerodynamic line, and design cues from the previous Hellblazer made into a modernized package.

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Are there any other models from SVM that we can draw inspirations to in order to make our design relatively SVM-ish?

The 1995 SVM Bearclaw (scheduled for release at the same time as the Hellblazer) would be another obvious source of inspiration. (The trim shown is a mid-range trim without functional aerodynamic fixtures.)

However, the Hellblazer would need to be more dynamic on the outside compared to the Bearclaw.

1995 SVM Hellblazer

Welcome to the 1990s jelly bean Hell (blazer).


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Low effort post for low effort car, still took me ages.

AMERICANISM IN FULL SHOW OF FORCE

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Just 5 days have passed since I began accepting submissions, and already the entry list has grown to be as large as the one for the previous CSC. Frankly, I’d be surprised if I didn’t receive (m)any more before the deadline.

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SVP Hellblazer by Propeller

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95’ SVM Hellblazer

The only car you will ever need

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1 week left for submissions!

I have received .car files and ads (in the form of a forum post containing at least one picture of your submission) from:

@the-chowi
@Rise_Comics
@Maxbombe
@Ch_Flash
@Mikonp7

I have also received ads, but not .car files, from:

@Riley
@Fantic2000

If you have not sent me a .car file, please do so before the deadline - and be sure to post an ad on this thread by then unless you have already done so.

1995 SVM Hellblazer by DHP

A classic reimagined by racecar builder and performance tuner DHP.

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1995 SVM Hellblazer by Cascina

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Less than 24 hours to go before the deadline.

If you haven’t sent in your entries via forum DM, please do so before then.

Update (12:00 am GMT, May 2nd 2023):

Submissions are now closed.

Expect reviews and results to follow shortly.

CSC57 Reviews and Results

As the SVM design team gathered around in the main building of the company’s design studio, they found nine outsourced proposals waiting for them. Within a few hours, they had evaluated and ranked all of them. Their verdicts and rankings were as follows:

9th: @Rise_Comics - This proposal got the wooden spoon for looking too toylike and/or aftermarket, especially with its giant rear wing and oversized side mirrors. The front end is too futuristic and lacks any real links to the rest of the company’s range.

8th: @Maxbombe - This isn’t a bad design per se, but it looks dated - by a half-decade. Had it come out five or so years ago, this would have been a top contender; as it is, however, it clearly shows its age compared to the opposition.

(OOC: This was the only proposal to be based on any of the Bean body sets)

7th: @Tsundere-kun - Lots of complex detailing everywhere, especially on the sides, but its proportions are ruined by an overly long rear overhang.

Side profile of Cascina

It’s not as readily apparent from a three-quarter angle, but such mistakes are ultimately too glaring to ignore in such exalted company.

6th: @Danicoptero - One of only two entries to use the same body set as the test mule. It’s an OK design, but could do with better fixture proportioning, especially for the headlights and taillight clusters. The color is great, though.

5th: @Ch_Flash - Compared to the previous design, this one is generally more cohesive, with a contemporary feel. However, the base of the A-pillar is a bit too far forward for what is meant to be a front-engined, rear-drive car, and that’s enough to scupper its chances.

Side profile of proposal


This is most apparent in the side profile, where there is too little space between the bottom of the A-pillar and the trailing edge of the front wheel arch.

(OOC: This was the second of two entries to use the same body set as the test mule)

4th: @Mikonp7 - This proposal leans slightly on the futuristic side, with a generally clean look throughout. However, it’s let down with overly blocky detailing on the lower body, especially for the front splitter and side skirts, and the rear overhang is a tad long (though not to the same extent as the Cascina’s).

3rd: @Fantic2000 - A minimalist, understated design that’s still easily recognizable as a Hellblazer - one staffer likened it to Stephanie Holden. However, It just needs a little bit more flair if it is to finish higher; as an aside, it’s the only proposal to have T-tops.

2nd: @Riley - This design apparently ticks all the boxes: clean yet aggressive, while also maintaining the identity of both the nameplate and the brand. Even when standing still, it definitely looked like it had enough brawn to rival Mitch Buchannon. However, as good as it was, there was still one proposal that kept it from taking top honors, by virtue of being just a little bit better in every measurable way.

1st: @the-chowi - The design team chose this proposal for being a bold departure from tradition, but one that paid off handsomely with a dramatic, dynamic look guaranteed to stand the test of time. If any of the proposals could be compared to C. J. Parker, it is this one.

(OOC: This was the only proposal I received that was built on the 360-esque body set - most of the others used one of the Vendetta body sets.)

Epilogue

The new-for-1995 SVM Hellblazer debuted at the 1994 North American International Auto Show to rave reviews, and quickly became the darling of the motoring press, drawing huge crowds at every auto show where it was exhibited. It was initially available only as a 2+2 coupe, but two-seater and convertible variants were added to the lineup within a year.

1995 Hellblazer 2+2 Coupe shown above in Deep Purple Metallic.

Production began in July 1994 and continued for a whole decade, during which time it recorded consistently high sales numbers. More significantly, it massively boosted the company’s image, and spawned a successful racing program. There have been three generations of Hellblazer since then, but none of those would have come to fruition without the success of the seminal 1994 model.

Final Rankings (for hosting order)

1st: the-chowi
2nd: Riley
3rd: Fantic2000
4th: Mikonp7
5th: Ch_Flash
6th: Danicoptero
7th: Tsundere-kun
8th: Maxbombe
9th: Rise_Comics

Many thanks to everyone who participated - I hope you had fun, and so did I!

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nice!
thanks for hosting and congrats to everybody else
i’ll definitely host the next round, i’m gonna try to get it ready ASAP

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Well, I did say Soon, so… CSC58 - God’s Green Earth