In-game market desirability and major stats (drivability, comfort, sportiness) seem to commonly favor front brakes roughly 5% overpowered, and rears roughly 10% overpowered. Reality favors front brakes maybe 1% overpowered, and the rears a bit underpowered. A previous competition I entered got me points off for “weak brakes” because the front brakes were just barely above tire grip - how I’d’ve done it IRL, not how the game does it.
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Well, generally, doing things that were either improbable or dangerous irl isn’t going to help you in a competition. The line between optimization and cheese is pretty obvious: when you’re at the point where your primary emotion is “holy shit, how is this not hurting me?” - you’ve crossed that line.
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As I see it: the brakes will lose effectiveness over time, and having full braking capability even with worn brakes is better than not having it when you need it.
It would be quite bad if a brake was only good if it’s recently serviced/replaced.
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Isn’t that what the Fade metric is meant to address? Most brakes actually work better when worn in and somewhat warmed up.
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Warmed up, yeah. Overheated, no.
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I’m pretty sure the fade metric is the loss of efficiency by the brakes heating up enough for the brake fluid to start boiling (and thus cause a loss of brake pressure through gas compressibility) / stuff forming on the brake surface causing a loss of friction between friction material and brake
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Yes, all of that amounting to the brakes losing effectiveness over time. Age and pad material remaining have no direct effect on how well they work - if there’s no glazing or contamination, and at least some pad life left, they’ll do no worse than brand new hardware.
Either way, unless you have any questions besides “how far can I cheese the stats on this before you throw me out the competition”, there’s nothing more I have to say.
My last reply was to @shibusu . Your previous reply is clear enough to me.
Next questions:
What’s the verdict on environmental resistance?
Are period- and market-correct bumpers required?
Does Tony prefer to get free arm exercise while driving, or for hydraulics to let him relax?
The fade metric is strictly short term heating of the brake systems. Once the brakes cool down they’ll be fine again unless you’ve damaged them in some way. Fade (both IRL and in Automation) doesn’t have anything to do with how old the brakes are, only how good they are at dissipating heat.
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Hey there, generally when it comes to developing your own car, we always prefer if you kept the forum threads clean and joined the discord instead.
Usually the #challenges channel will always have more or less some people active to help you specifically with challenge builds. The host of this challenge is there as well, and that’s usually the case. If not, you can always ask in the normal automation channels to ask for help with your builds. Cheers!
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My question was about scoring criteria, which varies from judge to judge and is relevant for all to know. I’m not asking anything specific to my work in progress.
If something’s not in the brief, then it’s not there - but if you have an envres of 10 I might see fit to question it.
Power steering was common at the time already - but not ubiquitous on compact cars, the Chevrolet Cavalier for example did not have it. Use your judgement.
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The Anhultz Dione IV automaat
Perfection needs no introduction.
if anyone hasn’t seen one of those milling about the forums, they either joined in the past month or so or are living under a rock :P
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IMO this community classic deserves a proper interior.
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Swanson 225 PFi
The Mouse That Roared
SEOPS
High MTBF, 3-valve aluminium head, injection boxer 6 with emissions kit. Max thrust 207Nm for adequate acceleration and a never exceed speed of 0.17 mach. Range up to 700km.
Mechanical control
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it has one and the fixtures are even still in there
but i deliberately blanked it out (opaque windows) since it isn’t judged anyway and i feel like the subconscious effect an interior might alter judging regardless of what is being said
thus, it feels unfair or is at least poor sportsmanship
of course this is not meant to de-value those players having gone through the effort of adding one.
just my 2 cents
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What a lovely interior! Made me “oooh!” out loud (OOL, which can be pronounced in the same pattern as LOL).
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