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CSR168
Part 2- Greener Pastures
Car Dealer District, Saturday morning
As promised, Bob met up with his good friend George. Knowing the mind-boggling number of cars on offer, the two knew that they wouldn’t have the time to test drive all of them. Without further ado, the two went into the dealer premises and started looking around.
Kurosake Sumo Dakar
@David_Herrera
“Wow, this one certainly looks tough and ready to conquer the globe.”
“And it indeed is. It’s got a 4x4 system, not to mention spotlights. Despite being this big it’s only got 2 doors, but that shouldn’t be an issue for you. There are a few glaring issues, though.”
“And what might that be?”
“It’s very thirsty for starters. It’s also got a limited slip differential which could maybe come in handy, but this also means that it’s gonna be a bit of a pain to fix. If we go a little further down there are some more similar cars that I’d rather recommend”
“Aight, if you say so.”
(Verdict: eliminated)
Bovos Viking
@Ultimate_Billy
“What’s your take on this one, George?”
“Pretty competent as far as I can see. it’s got plenty of usable space and it’s got AWD which makes this very forgiving to drive.”
“Is it likely to leave me stranded?”
“It’s quite alright in terms of reliability. Nothing really stands out that much honestly. If anything, it doesn’t stand out at all. Pretty bland looking.”
(Verdict: eliminated)
Avin - 572 ALL-IN DRIVE
@toxicnet
“Now this one’s a pretty solidly engineered vehicle, Bob. It’s fuel efficient, reliable, and easy to drive.”
“I don’t know man, not to keen on how it looks.”
“Doesn’t look bad to me.”
“Well it’s not bad per se, it’s just too… plain.”
“…Alright then, let’s look at something else”
(Verdict: eliminated)
Hirose Turaco LM
@Nebulon
“This thing is huge! I could practically just move out and live in one of these instead!”
“It’s huge indeed… and quite well-appointed. Never thought I’d see a van with an interior this fancy. You think it’d hold up well throughout the drive?”
“Well your bum certainly will. But mechanically, it’s not quite on par with the others. I’d definitely get one if the trip was around the continent, but not for the thing you’re envisioning.”
(Verdict: eliminated)
Yamaguchi Van 190 Vario
@Happyhungryhippo
“Well, this one certainly feels just a little larger than the Turaco.”
“Yes, but not by too much. This one’s more of a grounded offering but I haven’t heard too many good things about its reliability.”
“That’s a little disappointing considering this is based on a goods van.”
“It indeed is. They do offer a dedicated camper version of this though. It’s got a stove, fridge, plumbing, and other quality of life features.”
“Nah, not this time.”
(Verdict: eliminated)
Harada Delilah GTE Royale
@Atomic
“Now this one’s quite interesting… a luxurious and sporty looking van. With a bonus motorcycle to boot!”
“It certainly is interesting… Not sure if I’m a fan of the front though. It’s got a big mouth and those curvy lines.”
“Idk man, I think it makes it just a little more futuristic. Perhaps in a few years. Either way, this thing is big and roomy, has a turbocharger, and is driver-friendly thanks to the AWD system. As you can expect from all this technology though, reliability isn’t the best. Not to mention the cost and complexity of repairing these systems.”
“So… not ideal for the trip?”
“The AWD would’ve been handy… The turbo I’m not so sure about. Motorcycle would’ve gone hard though.”
(Verdict: eliminated)
Renzo Manta 4x4
@Capri78
“This one looks quite alright”
“Yes, I think it looks very sensible. Everything under its skin is also sensible. Only issue is that other cars simply do what the Manta does better. Not to mention issues with reliability, as one might expect from an Italian car.”
“What a shame.”
(Verdict: eliminated)
Ragnarock Hargrove T-8
@DrDoomD1scord
“GODDAMN!”
“Are you seriously considering going on a trip in a sports coupe of all things?”
“Why the hell not? Look at it!”
“I mean considering some of the more archaic bits of technology this is an impressive car. But are you sure you want to drive it across the world, with all the luggage that you’d have to bring?”
“Nothing beats sex with the driver of a 1986 Ragnarock Hargrove T-8.”
“I’d feel sorry for anyone stuck in the predicament. You’d have no room in the cabin for such escapades though.”
“Ah, youre right. Onto the next car then.”
“???”
(Verdict: eliminated)
Citrus 45Break Terrane
@CrazyCat808
“Goddamn. GOD ZIPP A DEE DOO DA ZAMN!!!”
“What a beautiful, precious machine.”
“We must have more. Five. Hundred. Citrus 45Break Terranes”
“It’s a dang reliable and economical machine alright but driving characteristics are apparently not very good.”
“You know I can handle a few compromises here and there as long as the car can take me to where I’m going.”
“This would be a little too big of a compromise sadly. We’ll take 500 once its kinks have been ironed out.”
(Verdict: eliminated)
Kováč Zvládnout Výzkum Xkrát
@Aruna and @Est_Nbmstr
“I’m not gonna even begin to try and say its name.”
“Same here. It’s a damn good looking and rugged car though.”
“Yes, I do love how the front grille is the Czech flag too. How very patriotic of them. What’s your verdict, though?”
“It’s reliable, that’s for sure. driving characteristics are not the best, and in other areas it doess’t perform as well as some other cars. The inside of this is definitely somewhere you’d want to live in though. Never seen a car interior that looks this cozy!”
(Verdict: eliminated)
Spander BE Break 16GTB
@Maxbombe and @66mazda
“Oh my days.”
“Those Gauls sure know how to design a vehicle. This is genuinely out of this world, like a spaceship on four wheels. The engineering from Kaizen really helps too, this thing apparently is very easy and fun to drive. Almost feels Germanic. Troll.”
“We must get this car NOW!”
“I’d say the same, but reliability is unfortunately not the best. It’s using some pretty fancy new tech which is good but may not be particularly good down your arduous journey. Let’s look at the other cars for now.”
“No.”
“Huh?”
“Troll.”
(Verdict: eliminated)
FCD Mirus 1.8
@NotChris07
After digging themselves out of the rubble, Bob and George directed their attention to one of two surviving vehicles, both of which happen to be plain white vans.
“Well, it’s a van alright. Dependable, fuel-sipping, spacious, and can be repaired by a toddler who puts a triangle block in a square-shaped hole.”
“Hmmm…”
Bob and George had another look around the car and decided against shortlisting the Mirus. Something about the details of the vehicle just seemed to not be right in their eyes.
(Verdict: eliminated)
Saidenki MUV 2.2L
@EnCR
“Look, another van! It kind of looks like a Super Guppy”
“Idk chief, as far as vans go this wouldn’t my top pick. It’s decently reliable but others do what it does better. It’s a little thirsty, but it’s also by far the most spacious thing you’ll ever find around here.”
“I see.”
(Verdict: eliminated)
“Well, shame what happened to the forecourt.” Bob said. “Those were some pretty decent cars overall but nothing there really caught our fancy I guess.”
“It is what it is.” George replied, “That’s just part of the car shopping experience. Fortunately, I know just the place that would have the car you’re looking for!”
“And what might that place be?”
“It’s right in front of us!”
“You can always trust Finn Allister Auto Sales to have the best cars available in the market that are suited to your very specific needs!”
“Say that again?”
“It’s almost as if all the cars you’d shortlist would end up there.”
The Finalists
@Xepy
@Mad_Cat and @Tsundere-kun
@Falling_Comet
@Oreology and @iivansmith
@donutsnail
@chiefzach2018 and @variationofvariables
To be continued
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A [Presumably] Lower Midfield finish is honestly quite good going for the Manta. Happy with that and I can attempt to build on my improving designs and fix my biggest issues. [Reliability / Comfort]
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Our Winson being in the finalist group is definite proof that Great Britain is truly the class leader of passenger car production
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CSR now?!?!
that was fun. including the wait.
Anyways, thank you so much for the detailed critique - I really appreciate it! I did have a feeling the design was a bit too rounded for the time period, but it was nonetheless fun dipping my toes into the superdeep borehole that is patchwork and molding 
Congratulations to whoever made it till here and good luck to all the finalists!
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Hey that’s a surprisingly good result! Had great fun with this challenge and I’m looking forward to seeing who’ll win in the end
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LETS GO my first challenge entry that’s made it past the 1st round 
I probably should have focused more on reliability and ruggedness but oh well. It was a good run though, and good luck to the finalists!!
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csr when!!
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Tomorrow™
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Oh well, and I thought I wss joking when I wrote about a CSR round taking around a season 
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tomorrow™ when
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I will give @S_U_C_C_U_L_E_N_T another week to at least post an update.
After that i will close the round and elect a new host based of the CSR167 results
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I want to start with saying that I am not looking for a fight (more that I am genuinely curious), and that I really don’t like how CSR (and other challenges) has turned into kind of a slippery slope when it comes to delays, fact is that I have criticized it multiple times, which many people that are active on this board probably knows already.
I just want to know if there is a reason why this specific CSR is targeted for this here and now. It is by far NOT the most delayed continous challenge on this board, there has been ones that have taken a year to judge too, or close to it. And yes, I agree that is really bad and should not happen, but I haven’t seen moderators tracking down on challenges that has been delayed even more than this. If you are going to enforce some stricter policies on this, starting from CSR168 on, it could be good to know, I guess.
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There have been multiple instances where we gave hosts a deadline for the hosting of the CSR-Rounds.
I will agree that we are mostly only doing this for the CSR rounds as they have a special status on the forums. We also have given out host bans for repeated offenders who were not able to finish said rounds.
We are not even asking for a final result, any update would be enough
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Thanks for clarifying, as I said I was by no means looking to start an argument.
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Hi all,
Firstly, I would like to apologize for the lack of updates. The finals have been delayed for the past few weeks on account of both vero and I being a bit busy lately, and me specifically choosing to spend my spare time with friends and family as opposed to our beloved spreadsheet simulator and the community that surrounds it. As my vollie shifts wind down for the Christmas break however, I now have more time to continue writing reviews. Vero is also helping some more in this time too. Results will come out soon.
That being said all you friendly forum users had to do was ask for an update in plain English. Yes, I am aware of the obligation to deliver reviews, but “CSR when” frustrates more than it motivates. What happened to simply asking “Any updates?”, or “It’s been X days/weeks, can we get an update?”, or “Any news on this?”. Hell, even saying that the reviews are something you look forward to after a long, arduous day would have gotten even the laziest host to continue working.
I’m not trying to throw shade or oppose Mikon’s directive either (an actual nudge and call for update is very much welcome), as I’ve neglected this CSR for much too long and an update is way overdue. In fact, I’d like to thank him for doing this. Thank you, @Mikonp7 for cracking the whip, making a clear-cut request, and putting care into CSR. But for everyone else, nagging of the “csr when” type isn’t going to make me do shit.
Have a good day and touch some grass (or snow) while we cook.
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CSR168
Finals - Final Countdown
Finn Allister Auto Sales
“Hello, how are you?” a salesman asked as he approached Bob and George, “The name’s Sal E. Mann. What can I do for you today?”
“Why don’t we start with that boxy, red vehicle over there?” Bob said, pointing at a boxy, red vehicle.
“Which one?”
“The oh-so glorious and awe-inspiring…”
Winson Garnet Mk2 2000
@Mad_Cat and @Tsundere-kun
Sal:
“When it comes to passenger vehicle production, I firmly believe that Great Britain rules above all. Good things take time, and the strike down at the Winson factory ensured that all orders for the Garnet WILL come out good no matter what.”
Bob:
“Tell us more about this beauty.”
Sal:
“This van has been in production for quite a long time, and I’m sure you’ve seen it around quite a lot. This one’s updated compared to the older models. Now it has tough and durable plastic bumpers and arches, so you’d be less likely to nick the bodywork. And unlike most vans of its day, this one’s based on a car platform. So, it drives better than any van from the blue oval! Come take a look inside!”
George:
“Wow, it’s very spacious as expected from a van.”
Sal:
“That’s right, it’s only got five seats but that part doesn’t really matter to you now, does it?”
Bob:
“That’s true… Hold on, we’ve never told you what we were using the car for.”
Sal:
“Sal E. Mann always knows. Now, why don’t we take it out for a test drive?”
Sal:
“As you can probably tell, this thing goes from 0 to 60 eventually 
.”
Bob:
“The engine’s very nice and torquey, so it’s got a bit of oomph that I didn’t expect. Road manners are pretty decent.”
George:
“This vehicle is supremely comfortable, too. The suspension tuning is good, not to mention the space this thing has.”
Sal:
“Well, what do you think about the Garnet then, gentlemen?”
George:
“It’s a wonderful car which truly has stood the test of time. But I do wonder how this would stack up against something more modern.”
Sal:
“Well, let’s have a look at the other red van, then.”
Paige Tanager VL
@donutsnail
Sal:
“If the Winson’s a little too old fashioned for you, or if you simply want me to convict you of treason, the Paige Tanager is a good option. Think of the Winson as the Apollo 69, while this is the SkyLab. I wouldn’t say that it’s the most moden or sophisticated car in the market, but it certainly is pleasing to the eye.”
Bob:
“Looks quite American.”
Sal:
“Sure does, but this car is actually smaller than most American cars, so it’s perfect for our roads, and wherever you may be travelling next.”
George:
“It’s quite spacious in here. Not as much as the Garnet, but it’s still pretty good.”
Bob:
“Well, the Garnet looks more like a loaf of bread than this one. The Tanager has a proper bonnet and is most probably more related to its sedan sibling than the Garnet is.”
George:
“True… Now let’s get it out on the road and see how it drives.”
Bob:
“As expected of a newer car, it feels very nice and refined, more so than the other red van. Performance feels very similar, though.”
George:
“Well that’s slightly disappointing, isn’t it? You’d think that the newer car would be faster than the old one.”
Sal:
“Well, let me just say. The Garnet gets 24.8mpg. This thing, however, does 30.8.”
Bob and George:
“DAMN!!!”
Sal:
“Pretty good for a big box on wheels, don’t you think?”
Bob:
“It certainly is appealing, but do you have any smaller boxes on offer?”
Sal:
“Of course we do. Are you fucking blind?”
Kaufmann Karree 1.6
@Xepy
Bob:
“No I am not. My eyes are open to the beauty that lies before our eyes.”
George:
“This one’s really handsome. You really can expect no less from a Kaufmann. It’s clearly utilitarian, yet elegant…”
Bob:
“The inside’s surprisingly spacious, too! I remember cars of this size being much smaller inside back in the day.”
Sal:
“Well, that’s the marvel of front wheel drive and a unibody construction for you, Bob. Why don’t we take it out for a spin?”
Bob:
“It definitely feels more lethargic than the two vans… But wow, this is a delight to drive. It’s light, nimble, and feels very solid.”
George:
“It’s pretty comfortable too, pretty close to those vans”
Sal:
“That’s what you get with independent suspension on all four wheels. Not many cars are able to do that at this price range, let alone a German one like this!”
Bob:
“The exhaust sounds quite splendid, too.”
Sal:
“That’s because this has a five-cylinder engine. It’s not every day you can see something like this. Granted it’ll mean slightly higher maintenance for you, but this car is still very unlikely to let you down.”
Tioro Terrano Voyager
@iivansmith and @Oreology
Bob:
“Wow.”
George:
“Aku jg mw 
”
Bob:
“This vehicle is a work of art. In other parts of the world, this would have been a normal executive sedan. Here though, they’ve chosen to sell it as a tougher and more rugged model. The engine is about as under-stressed as it gets, and it still runs a traditional body-on-frame setup. Or perimeter frame, either one.”
George:
“This is very nice and well-appointed. That analog clock is baller, and everything from the seats to the doors look very well-padded.”
Bob:
“Space seems to be at a premium compared to the previous stuff though…”
Sal:
"Well, you have the older architecture and rear-drive layout to the blame for that. Plus, it’s based on an executive sedan so clearly space is not a #1 priority. It’s not all bad though, try it out for yourself.
Bob and George:
“Bersiaplah 
”
Bob:
“Wow, this is one torquey beast! Acceleration is surprisingly quick, too.”
George:
“The gears are short and are very tightly spaced, good on Tioro and Homada for making this very fit for purpose.”
Bob:
“True… This drives nothing like the Karee though, or even the Tanager. Perhaps it’s an unfair comparison, but I guess that’s what body on frame construction does to handling.”
George:
“It’s comfy and well-appointed inside… though I do wonder what a more basic car would look and feel like?”
Sal:
“Well…”
Quezon Custom Built
@variationofvariables and @chiefzach2018
Sal:
“…if basic is what you’re looking for, there can really only be-”
Bob:
“Putaningina, si Quezon Custom Built”
George:
“rr RR URR AA AA AAA”
Sal:
“The Custom Built has very solid underpinnings, being based on stuff from the war. And if you love chrome, you most certainly will love this vehicle. If you ever find yourself being chased down by criminals or militia in your adventures, just go to somewhere sunny and it’s over for them.”
Bob:
“This is huge though… probably the size of a lot of full-size luxury cars.”
Sal:
“Well it WAS built as public transportation. Just look at the seats! Legally, you can seat nine but back where it was from you could have fitted MacArthur’s entire army as he bombed the shit out of both the Japanese and whatever was left of Manila.”
George:
“No wonder why it’s so spacious inside… you can practically lie down and sleep on these seats!”
Sal:
“Are you gentlemen ready to terrorize the road and honk at anyone who comes your way?”
Bob and George:
“Of course.”
George:
“You can most certainly call this a Lockheed A-12 the way it handles like an oxcart!”
Bob:
“I feel as one with the road. Never thought I’d feel the bump from a speck of dust on the road but here I am.”
Sal:
“Stop complaining. I will not be tolerating unwarranted slander against peak automotive engineering. You asked for something basic, right? Well, here it is!”
Bob:
“Would it really be worth it to do a long ass trip in something like this though? Something tells me that actual windows and insulation would come a long way.”
Sal:
“First of all, none of us has a physical form that can actually feel heat, rain, or mosquito bites. Secondly, eight thousand seven hundred and fifty Automation dollar car.”
Bob:
“Cars at a cheap price 
”
George:
“Satisfactory”
Suisei Yama - Kōjun Y60
@Falling_Comet
Bob:
“Yo, is that a La-”
George:
"Shut your bitchass up.
Sal:
“If you like big engines, then the Suisei will surely not disappoint. Let’s just say that this thing is powered by 3 litres of pure, unadulterated Japanese iron… Producing a mind-boggling 112hp!!!”
Bob and George:
“DAMN!!!”
Sal:
“Inside it’s quite big, too. Lots of headroom, space to fit skis, wood panels and whatnot.”
Bob:
“Hmm… It feels just a tad bit narrow, though.”
Sal:
“Well, you’d be right there but it really doesn’t look like it from the outside. At least you’d be able to navigate city centres relatively easily with this one.”
George:
“We shall see when once we have a go at it.”
Bob:
“Well, this one drives marginally better than the Quezon.”
George:
“It is certainly better appointed, and you are actually covered from the elements.”
Bob:
“I reckon this is worth it for the engine alone. There truly no replacement for displacement, even if it’s not very powerful!”
George:
“Again, I feel like this cabin could be just a bit bigger. But feels sensible. As expected of Susei Heavy Industries.”
Bob:
“You really can’t go wrong with them. By the way, how much fuel does this baby drink?”
Sal:
“20.3mpg”
George:
“Understandable. Though actually, that could have been a lot worse.”
Bob:
“That was a most interesting experience. I still can’t decide between them because they were all so good.”
George:
“Your ahh really that indecisive, huh? Why don’t you choose a car that speaks to your heart the most?”
Bob:
“I’m just worried about the reliability and economy of those cars… The salesman can say whatever the hell he wants. I need less biased information.”
George:
“My brother in Christ just refer to the spreadsheet… The manufacturers didn’t give us the .car files for no reason.”
Bob:
The what?
After doing their own research and checking files on George’s personal desktop computer, Bob and George went back to the dealership and bought the car of their choice.
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It’s 恭喜發財 you unripe grapefruit. Massive props for the first beta Al Rilma CSR round and congratulations to the winner!
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